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These Aussie teams are stinking. The Blues are barely functional and still winning comfortably

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:34 am These Aussie teams are stinking. The Blues are barely functional and still winning comfortably

All of this is true.

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:46 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:34 am These Aussie teams are stinking. The Blues are barely functional and still winning comfortably

All of this is true.

Unfortunately.

Meh. Crap game. Shit comp. .

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:05 am Meh. Crap game. Shit comp. .

Yep, it's that boring I'm almost at the point of wanting a Kiwi team to lose. Almost.

The standings are embarrassing.

Trapper wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:49 am

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:38 am Zarn Sullivan should be nowhere near this Blues team. He’s much too competent and intelligent.

I reckon he’s the most complete Fullback currently running around in NZ. All the others have a flaw or two. Sullivan seems to have it all on a cool head. Too soon for AB selection though and with the WC only a couple of years away he’s gonna have to wait.

Started well, but fell apart later. Still, he wasn't alone in that.

But he's got an awful long way to go to get anywhere near McKenzie or Jordan or Barrett as a 15, in pretty much every area. He needs to get a go at 10 somehow.

Has any Supe team ever overcome a 30-point half time deficit, let alone a man down?

Chiefs

Did they lose to the Reds?

Just seen 40-34, a disgrace to NZ Rugby

DMac got red. They did well with 14 men.Reds played well. The were due a win against NZ teams.

Chiefs have brought a level of shame to NZ.

Trapper wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:49 am

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:38 am Zarn Sullivan should be nowhere near this Blues team. He’s much too competent and intelligent.

I reckon he’s the most complete Fullback currently running around in NZ. All the others have a flaw or two. Sullivan seems to have it all on a cool head. Too soon for AB selection though and with the WC only a couple of years away he’s gonna have to wait.

So the most complete fullback in NZ has to stand down because the best NZ fullback in Japan who everyone hates is coming back?

Well, that sucked. Both cards correct but felt sorry for DMac. The other guy ran straight at him - McKenzie started to pull out when the pass was made but didn't have time and the contact was shoulder to head. Always a card but I wonder what would have happened if it was the other way.

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:54 pm Well, that sucked. Both cards correct but felt sorry for DMac. The other guy ran straight at him - McKenzie started to pull out when the pass was made but didn't have time and the contact was shoulder to head. Always a card but I wonder what would have happened if it was the other way.

All very true, but on the plus side Trask got the opportunity to show that he's got the skills to play 10 at this level. Which he's almost certainly going to have to do for the next two weeks.

Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:42 am

Trapper wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:49 am

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:38 am Zarn Sullivan should be nowhere near this Blues team. He’s much too competent and intelligent.

I reckon he’s the most complete Fullback currently running around in NZ. All the others have a flaw or two. Sullivan seems to have it all on a cool head. Too soon for AB selection though and with the WC only a couple of years away he’s gonna have to wait.

Started well, but fell apart later. Still, he wasn't alone in that.

But he's got an awful long way to go to get anywhere near McKenzie or Jordan or Barrett as a 15, in pretty much every area. He needs to get a go at 10 somehow.

He should go down to the Crusaders, we need a decent backup for RM, in fact I would be happy with Perofeta, not like he is going to get a run at 10 with BB coming back. How many 10s do the Blues need, they’ll have 5 on the books next year.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:45 pm

Trapper wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:49 am

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 7:38 am Zarn Sullivan should be nowhere near this Blues team. He’s much too competent and intelligent.

I reckon he’s the most complete Fullback currently running around in NZ. All the others have a flaw or two. Sullivan seems to have it all on a cool head. Too soon for AB selection though and with the WC only a couple of years away he’s gonna have to wait.

So the most complete fullback in NZ has to stand down because the best NZ fullback in Japan who everyone hates is coming back?

BB has demanded he only be considered as a 10 only and is refusing point blank to play 15 and I’m only really looking at Sullivan’s potential, he’s not there yet, he’s only played what... 3-4 games of soup rugby but he’s probably favourite to start there next year over Perofeta, imo.
There is also Roger Tuivasa-Sheck to consider as well, although I imagine he’ll start out on the wing.

Trapper wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:31 am
BB has demanded he only be considered as a 10 only and is refusing point blank to play 15 and I’m only really looking at Sullivan’s potential, he’s not there yet, he’s only played what... 3-4 games of soup rugby but he’s probably favourite to start there next year over Perofeta, imo.
There is also Roger Tuivasa-Sheck to consider as well, although I imagine he’ll start out on the wing.

This never happened.

Also, Zarn Sullivan has shown himself a solid presence at the back. Nothing more. Of course, as Blues supporter I will take that with gratitude. But to suggest he's ahead of other players who have shown far more flair and creativity is daft.

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 6:51 am

Trapper wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:31 am
BB has demanded he only be considered as a 10 only and is refusing point blank to play 15 and I’m only really looking at Sullivan’s potential, he’s not there yet, he’s only played what... 3-4 games of soup rugby but he’s probably favourite to start there next year over Perofeta, imo.
There is also Roger Tuivasa-Sheck to consider as well, although I imagine he’ll start out on the wing.

This never happened.

Also, Zarn Sullivan has shown himself a solid presence at the back. Nothing more. Of course, as Blues supporter I will take that with gratitude. But to suggest he's ahead of other players who have shown far more flair and creativity is daft.

First bit was a bit of a joke although he has declared he wants to be viewed as a 10.

I haven’t suggested Sullivan is ahead of others at all, not sure where you get that from? In fact I have said in the very post you quoted that he’s not there yet. But I do think that in time, he is going to be pushing every other 15 very hard because it looks to me at this early stage of his career that he has every tool in the box without added brainfarts. I like him, I make no apologies for that.

Trapper wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:37 pm
I haven’t suggested Sullivan is ahead of others at all, not sure where you get that from?

Trapper wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:49 pm

I reckon he’s the most complete Fullback currently running around in NZ. All the others have a flaw or two. Sullivan seems to have it all on a cool head.

In any case, I still haven't seen anything to suggest any "completeness". In fact, all I've seen is a cool head, good positional play and a fine kicking game. Have not seen great defense, pace, acceleration, a step, a swerve. Whatever. In fact, very little X factor at all. That's not to say he doesn't have it. I hope he does.

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:16 am

Trapper wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:37 pm
I haven’t suggested Sullivan is ahead of others at all, not sure where you get that from?

Trapper wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:49 pm

I reckon he’s the most complete Fullback currently running around in NZ. All the others have a flaw or two. Sullivan seems to have it all on a cool head.

In any case, I still haven't seen anything to suggest any "completeness". In fact, all I've seen is a cool head, good positional play and a fine kicking game. Have not seen great defense, pace, acceleration, a step, a swerve. Whatever. In fact, very little X factor at all. That's not to say he doesn't have it. I hope he does.

Make of it what you will but I never said he should be an All Black mate.

I think Samisoni Tuakei’ahi is the form hooker running around at the moment as well but that doesn’t mean I think he is ahead of Coles, Taylor or even Aumua.

Game day for Crusaders crunch match against the dangerous Force. A real banana skin match for our boys, especially with a novice at first five and no Sam Whitelock.

It’s bloody tempting to root for an Aussie team in that case.

I’ve never done it, but the temptation is very strong.

Fainga'anuku really exposed on defence by Pulu.

That was an embarrassingly simple try finished by Jordan

FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:00 am It’s bloody tempting to root for an Aussie team in that case.

I’ve never done it, but the temptation is very strong.

You’ve crossed a line just contemplating that.

WTF is the comment that you can't force the ball with your bicep?

Try right on half time with a lovely spin in the tackle by Talitui.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:25 pm Game day for Crusaders crunch match against the dangerous Force. A real banana skin match for our boys, especially with a novice at first five and no Sam Whitelock.

Keep trying to pretend that these games might be close, maybe you’ll convince someone.

Tamaiti Williams looks like he could be something special when he grows up.

I have been quietly impressed with Burke.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:02 am I have been quietly impressed with Burke.

Yep, he's been sound.

He’s missed a few conversions

Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:18 am He’s missed a few conversions

I was referring more to his general play.

Bad missed tackle by Jordan

Is there any position Havili doesn’t play

Balls

Onside I assume ??

Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:55 am Is there any position Havili doesn’t play

Onside.