Re: Ireland v France match thread
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:16 pm
Can’t wait to see this on the Netflix documentary
Maybe not in terms of pure quality rugby, but riding out the french attacks, restricting them to a drop goal, and then playing the corners to put the pressure back on them.
Don't know what strictly is tbh.
Not actually helpful for Ireland as Refs less likely to let so much go at world cups and do less "coaching".
We’ve beat the best other team in the comp. If we’ve had a tendency when missing a slam, it’s been to lose to the other best team, be it Wales, England or France.
Jesus: on the Fre side I'm still getting "Yay, yay, Jalibert missed a tackle so Ntamack is the greatest".
Wrong-sort bandwagoner alert. Probably don’t even OWN a sheepskin.Frop.E wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:15 pmAviva*Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:14 pmOne of the best test matches ever at Lansdowne so no.C69 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:13 pm
Pretty appalling tbh. But quite funny.
Game ruined by the officials
Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?lemonhead wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:14 pmIf Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.
Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now
I AGREE !!!!Biffer wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:11 pm If there are no repurcussions on the Irish TV team for this it stinks.
What the actual fúck Floppy? Are you contractually obliged to mention the sponsor or something. It's either Lansdowne Rd, or if you insist, LR2.Frop.E wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:15 pmAviva*Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:14 pmOne of the best test matches ever at Lansdowne so no.C69 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:13 pm
Pretty appalling tbh. But quite funny.
Game ruined by the officials
How much money would you lay on that? France is polarised on this. As I said earlier, we had the Midi Olympique analysts, after last week, in exasperation saying Jalibert will never start, no matter what. It's Eddie Jones/Youngs all over.
There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
Yep. Don't understand that comment.dob wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:17 pmWe’ve beat the best other team in the comp. If we’ve had a tendency when missing a slam, it’s been to lose to the other best team, be it Wales, England or France.
His contribution has been pretty shite too. A terrible missed tackle that led to a try. 2 aimless kicks giving away posession without pressurizing the Irish defense.
Quite possibly. But possibly not - and that’s moving up the curve. Take that.CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pm Anyway, fantastic game. Would have gone the other way in France.
Agree. There is no way Barnes could have anything other than uncertainty and in that situation, you always call "Onfield, no try". It's long overdue that he retired.
It may be different for internationals but at Heineken level the TMO does not have access to their own set of Matrix screens covering everything.CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pmHang on, this is about the Lowe try?
TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.
The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.
Tbf, Dupont didn't seem to be flagging. And was certainly key to France having any chance. We couldn't handle himself and the two wingers.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pmThere seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
And the same applies in Toulouse.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pmThere seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
He has it all.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:24 pm Doris’ pass out of contact. I think I owe the Mrs a new set of curtains.
He was. That ruck in the Irish 22s where he is not back. His kick blocked 2 minutes later. He was in the red.CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:24 pmTbf, Dupont didn't seem to be flagging. And was certainly key to France having any chance. We couldn't handle himself and the two wingers.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pmThere seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
Yep. Or like Oz with Gregan - couldn't move on. Cuts both ways, stuffs the player up and there's no plan B/confidence for the team when the player is out with injury.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pmThere seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
Seemed like it was his linesman that called that he'd seen the grounding.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:23 pmAgree. There is no way Barnes could have anything other than uncertainty and in that situation, you always call "Onfield, no try". It's long overdue that he retired.
Oh do f**k off. I pointed out immediately that he came on that Galthie had f**ked up and had to reshuffle the backline. FB is a position I'd not play Jalibert in at Pro2 precisely because you cannot leave him isolated without tackle cover. FHs get that in the 10 channel but no-one is coming to your rescue as last man. And what did you expect him to do offensively from FB, deep in own half and chasing 2 scores?
At least with BOD he was at 13 and could take a breather during the game. A scrum half can’t do that.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pmThere seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
that reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it availableCM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pmHang on, this is about the Lowe try?
TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.
The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.
Read what I wrote earlier.TheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:28 pm And I assume Torque thinks Jelonch is shit because he knocked on a ball - he wasn't expecting - on the try line.
Made no difference, better side clearly won.spike wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:32 pmthat reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it availableCM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pmHang on, this is about the Lowe try?lemonhead wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:14 pm
If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.
Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now
TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.
The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.
Well, at least we won't hear so much about French TV directors.spike wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:32 pmthat reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it availableCM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pmHang on, this is about the Lowe try?lemonhead wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:14 pm
If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.
Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now
TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.
The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.
True enough.dob wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:31 pmAt least with BOD he was at 13 and could take a breather during the game. A scrum half can’t do that.redderneck wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:22 pmThere seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm Superb all round game by the Irish.
But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.
That ball should never have left the lineout. It should have been a maul. Jelonch never expected that ball.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:33 pmRead what I wrote earlier.TheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:28 pm And I assume Torque thinks Jelonch is shit because he knocked on a ball - he wasn't expecting - on the try line.
The knock on was his fault. Jelonch had his best game for at least a year. For once he actually did some link play. In fact, he really was the only backrow who shone. Alldritt was very quiet again which is worrying and Ollivon is looking for all the world like a man who has had one too many serious injuries.
You will from usTheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:34 pmWell, at least we won't hear so much about French TV directors.spike wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:32 pmthat reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it availableCM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 pm
Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?
TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.
The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.