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Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 am

Bradley destroying a T-90M with its chain gun through frontal armour. That shouldn't be possible.

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 am

Bradley destroying a T-90M with its chain gun through frontal armour. That shouldn't be possible.

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 am Bradley destroying a T-90M with its chain gun through frontal armour. That shouldn't be possible.

Blake wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:57 pm

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 am

Bradley destroying a T-90M with its chain gun through frontal armour. That shouldn't be possible.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:39 pm I don't think those are penetrating hits. The sparks are the rounds breaking apart. The fire and explosion is the ERA cooking off and exploding, which also isn't a penetration. Maybe just with the amount of rounds going in something could get in a weak spot (the join between the turret and the hull?), but if anything penetrates the ricochet kills the crew, and the crew survived and escaped. To me it looks mostly like the crew panicked and didn't have as good optics as the Bradley, the Russians didn't seem to know where and what was hitting them. The T-90 ends up immobilised but that looks like driver error/panic, he found a massive tree to drive into in a flattened village.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:39 pmThe Bradley is something we got 100% correct on this thread. Bradley was a bigger upgrade on what Ukraine had, than the Leopard/Challenger is compared to the MBTs Ukraine had. The gap between a Bradley and a BMP is massive. We discussed on the thread what the Bradley could do against Russian MBTs at close range. I posted the Ratel ZT3 destroyed T55s in Angola using its ATGMs, posted some comms from the Lomba River battle too, so there was no reason the Bradley couldn't do similar (think I mentioned the Bradley optics too but cannot recall). Hellraiser speculated the autocannon could penetrate the side armour of older Russian MBTs. The discussion on the thread was about wondering just how far the Bradley could go against a Russian MBT close up, which we now know was exactly the right thing to be wondering.

There are people out there calling themselves "experts", who aren't that critical of Russia, and dismissed the Bradley as an "armoured jeep". Nice to get conformation we at least know a bit more than the morons.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:01 pm

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 am Bradley destroying a T-90M with its chain gun through frontal armour. That shouldn't be possible.

If I'd a dollar for every time that phrase was used by someone about the performance of the Orc weapons, I'd be a rich man !

_Os_ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:39 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:57 pm

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 am

Bradley destroying a T-90M with its chain gun through frontal armour. That shouldn't be possible.

I don't think those are penetrating hits. The sparks are the rounds breaking apart. The fire and explosion is the ERA cooking off and exploding, which also isn't a penetration. Maybe just with the amount of rounds going in something could get in a weak spot (the join between the turret and the hull?), but if anything penetrates the ricochet kills the crew, and the crew survived and escaped. To me it looks mostly like the crew panicked and didn't have as good optics as the Bradley, the Russians didn't seem to know where and what was hitting them. The T-90 ends up immobilised but that looks like driver error/panic, he found a massive tree to drive into in a flattened village.

The Bradley is something we got 100% correct on this thread. Bradley was a bigger upgrade on what Ukraine had, than the Leopard/Challenger is compared to the MBTs Ukraine had. The gap between a Bradley and a BMP is massive. We discussed on the thread what the Bradley could do against Russian MBTs at close range. I posted the Ratel ZT3 destroyed T55s in Angola using its ATGMs, posted some comms from the Lomba River battle too, so there was no reason the Bradley couldn't do similar (think I mentioned the Bradley optics too but cannot recall). Hellraiser speculated the autocannon could penetrate the side armour of older Russian MBTs. The discussion on the thread was about wondering just how far the Bradley could go against a Russian MBT close up, which we now know was exactly the right thing to be wondering.

There are people out there calling themselves "experts", who aren't that critical of Russia, and dismissed the Bradley as an "armoured jeep". Nice to get conformation we at least know a bit more than the morons.

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:06 pm

_Os_ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:39 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:57 pm

I don't think those are penetrating hits. The sparks are the rounds breaking apart. The fire and explosion is the ERA cooking off and exploding, which also isn't a penetration. Maybe just with the amount of rounds going in something could get in a weak spot (the join between the turret and the hull?), but if anything penetrates the ricochet kills the crew, and the crew survived and escaped. To me it looks mostly like the crew panicked and didn't have as good optics as the Bradley, the Russians didn't seem to know where and what was hitting them. The T-90 ends up immobilised but that looks like driver error/panic, he found a massive tree to drive into in a flattened village.

The Bradley is something we got 100% correct on this thread. Bradley was a bigger upgrade on what Ukraine had, than the Leopard/Challenger is compared to the MBTs Ukraine had. The gap between a Bradley and a BMP is massive. We discussed on the thread what the Bradley could do against Russian MBTs at close range. I posted the Ratel ZT3 destroyed T55s in Angola using its ATGMs, posted some comms from the Lomba River battle too, so there was no reason the Bradley couldn't do similar (think I mentioned the Bradley optics too but cannot recall). Hellraiser speculated the autocannon could penetrate the side armour of older Russian MBTs. The discussion on the thread was about wondering just how far the Bradley could go against a Russian MBT close up, which we now know was exactly the right thing to be wondering.

There are people out there calling themselves "experts", who aren't that critical of Russia, and dismissed the Bradley as an "armoured jeep". Nice to get conformation we at least know a bit more than the morons.

From what I gather there was at least a couple of penetrative shots that destroyed the turret's hydraulic controls causing it to spin uncontrollably.

There's no question that an autocannon can penetrate T-72 side armour. There's famous footage from Mariupol of a BTR-4 destroying one by doing exactly that.

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:26 am 78 CAESARs will be produced for Ukraine this year, with 18 to be delivered in the next few weeks.

12 are French donations and 6 direct purchases from Nexter by Ukraine. The remaining 60 will be financed through EU/NATO funding.

laurent wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:10 am

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:26 am 78 CAESARs will be produced for Ukraine this year, with 18 to be delivered in the next few weeks.

12 are French donations and 6 direct purchases from Nexter by Ukraine. The remaining 60 will be financed through EU/NATO funding.

I said that

The french Minister stated Ukraine had 49 (acknowledging a few losses)

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:54 pm The Baltic States have jointly agreed to fortify their borders with Russia.

https://www.politico.eu/article/latvia- ... -concerns/

Niegs wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:02 am

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:54 am At least 3 similar "incidents" this weekend in different parts of Russia. One was in Tula where parts for the Pantsir-S and Pantsir-S1 missile systems are produced

Niegs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:08 am Not sure if this was posted a couple of months ago when it was published, but just stumbled upon on it. I don't think it was addressed, but does Ukraine have a 'conscientious objector' option? Can men who really don't want to fight volunteer for roles that support, but aren't going to see combat? Or maybe everyone in such roles is 'front line draft eligible' regardless, based on future need?

TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:21 am

Niegs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:08 am Not sure if this was posted a couple of months ago when it was published, but just stumbled upon on it. I don't think it was addressed, but does Ukraine have a 'conscientious objector' option? Can men who really don't want to fight volunteer for roles that support, but aren't going to see combat? Or maybe everyone in such roles is 'front line draft eligible' regardless, based on future need?

It does have conscientious objector and alternative service clauses, but martial law inhibits them to a rather high legal bar. What happens under the table of course...

Best jump in bed with a religious org or volunteer groups, those who want to stay and are willing to put actual work in to avoid draft seem to make a good fist it.

One of the greatest military battles of modern times. Footage of the large-scale enemy assault that took place at the end of October last year in the Avdiyiv direction is being released by the 110th Separate Mechanized Brigade named after Major General Mark Bezruchka.

"During the largest attacks, the Russians simultaneously used such a quantity of equipment on the battlefield, which was not used by any country in any of the conflicts in the 21st century," the 110th brigade comments on archival footage in its report.

Bulgarian OSINT researcher Stanimir Dobrev spent a long time analyzing a large telegram channel that published obituaries of Russian soldiers liquidated in Ukraine, having read all the posts published since the beginning of the full-scale invasion. The dynamics, geography and indication of units led him to the following conclusions regarding the situation with manpower in the occupation forces in Ukraine:

• In 2022, the Russian Federation managed to hide its losses well, when the majority of the liquidated occupiers were contract soldiers. However, manpower losses in the first year of a full-scale war were generally less than in 2023. The Wagner Group began using recruited prisoners back in 2022, but the operational secrecy of mercenaries in general was higher than that of the Russian Armed Forces, so their losses are recorded much worse according to obituaries.

• From the beginning of 2023, losses increase sharply. In particular, due to the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Navy, which was defeated during an attempt to attack Vugledar, as well as among militants from ORDLO. During this period, the Russian command began to more actively mix experienced fighters with mobilized ones, regardless of which units were compatible with each other. After this, ORDLO detachments again began to more actively engage in assaults, which led to a gradual grinding down of both categories - experienced militants and mobilized ones.

• Russian losses increased again with the start of the Ukrainian offensive. Losses were recorded not only on the main axis of the offensive, but also on the islands on the Dnieper, as well as near Bakhmut. According to reports on the channel, it is confirmed that during the explosion of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric station, the Russian command drowned part of its own troops. In the southern direction, the Russians increasingly relied on replenishing lost units with mobilized ones - in particular, among the 810th Marine Brigade. At the same time, their ability to transfer new units to this section of the front was limited. At Bakhmut, the occupiers relied even more heavily on undertrained personnel to replenish their battered units. Many of these replacements, especially those recruited from prisoners, had only 2-3 weeks of combat training before being sent to the front lines. This tactic of plugging holes with recruits led to very large losses.

• The current situation in the RF Armed Forces has worsened even further. The current level of mobilization is somehow enough to maintain the intensity of hostilities and little by little advance at an extremely slow pace. However, this requires continuing to replenish the battered units with poorly trained recruits. At the same time, some individual units (created back in 2022) are still kept in reserve - no losses have been recorded among them. To increase the intensity of hostilities, the Kremlin needs to launch a larger wave of mobilization, like the one that occurred in the fall of 2022 - but the Russian leadership still does not dare to undertake it.

• The situation with experienced units in the RF Armed Forces is very bad - there are very few of them left.

@yigal_levin

The Turkish parliament approved Sweden’s accession to NATO. 287 parliament members voted in favor, 55 voted against it and 4 abstained. The signature of Turkish president Erdogan completes the ratification.

This leaves Hungary as the last NATO member to approve.

Another reward goes to Putin as the employee of the month in contributing NATO’s enlargement.

Source: N-TV