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Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:52 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:47 am I understand that, I just think you can reasonably argue either he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near running a stall at a car boot sale or that the choice shouldn't be made via the courts it should be left to the people.

I rather hope he dies painfully with his intestines exploding between now and 2024, but if he lives as much as I loathe him I'm not 100% sold the choice shouldn't be left to the people, and that if the choice is removed that doesn't simply create other problems.

In the words of Terry Pratchett

Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there’ll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland?

Following Colorado, 16 more US states have filed lawsuits to keep Donald Trump out of the election

Lawsuits have been filed in 16 US states to keep Donald Trump out of the Republican Party primaries for the 2024 presidential election.

The lawsuits have been filed in Michigan, Oregon, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Alaska, Arizona, Nevada, New York and other states. In Arizona and Michigan, courts initially dismissed the lawsuits but approved them after appeals.

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Following Colorado, 16 more US states have filed lawsuits to keep Donald Trump out of the election

Lawsuits have been filed in 16 US states to keep Donald Trump out of the Republican Party primaries for the 2024 presidential election.

The lawsuits have been filed in Michigan, Oregon, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Alaska, Arizona, Nevada, New York and other states. In Arizona and Michigan, courts initially dismissed the lawsuits but approved them after appeals.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:40 pm

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Following Colorado, 16 more US states have filed lawsuits to keep Donald Trump out of the election

Lawsuits have been filed in 16 US states to keep Donald Trump out of the Republican Party primaries for the 2024 presidential election.

The lawsuits have been filed in Michigan, Oregon, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Alaska, Arizona, Nevada, New York and other states. In Arizona and Michigan, courts initially dismissed the lawsuits but approved them after appeals.

Michigan, Alaska, Arizona and Wisconsin all voted for Trump when he won in 2016. This is far more important than Colorado, it voted against him.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:39 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:40 pm

TB63 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Michigan, Alaska, Arizona and Wisconsin all voted for Trump when he won in 2016. This is far more important than Colorado, it voted against him.

There's also a significant intersection with the States they targeted in the "Fake Electors" plot, which swung narrowly to Biden, & so won him the Election.

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:42 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:39 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:40 pm

Michigan, Alaska, Arizona and Wisconsin all voted for Trump when he won in 2016. This is far more important than Colorado, it voted against him.

There's also a significant intersection with the States they targeted in the "Fake Electors" plot, which swung narrowly to Biden, & so won him the Election.

I can't believe we are still talking about this shit 3 years on. The guy should be in jail, it's unreal

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:05 pm
They should have arrested the whole lot after Jan 6th, & slung them in prison to rot until their court dates. As it stands there's I think over a thousand of the participants that have gone thru the courts, but none of those who started the insurrection, & they were the ones sitting in positions of power.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:02 pm Rudy filed for bankruptcy today; he listed existing & potential liabilities of ~$500,000,000 mostly for his inability to shut the fuck up !

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:51 pm #Trumpsmells has gotten some lovely traction.

From now on labelling all his supporters Trump Fart Sniffers.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:59 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

I think it's a foregone conclusion at this stage. You'd need a leader with the stature of FDR to pull them back from the brink.

Spanish civil war will be the blueprint. Gilead here we come.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:51 pm

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

Wait, thats what has you hating the US right now and not what they are enabling in Gaza?

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:30 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:51 pm

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

Wait, thats what has you hating the US right now and not what they are enabling in Gaza?

Callous as it sounds, the negative impacts on the world for a second Trump administration dwarfs not bringing the Israelis to heel.

That the US will potentially deliver that despite Biden by most metrics being a really good president is enraging.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:17 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:59 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

I think it's a foregone conclusion at this stage. You'd need a leader with the stature of FDR to pull them back from the brink.

Spanish civil war will be the blueprint. Gilead here we come.

Is it time to sit back and applaud the twisted genius of Putin and his 4D chess dismantling of western stability?

Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:51 pm

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am Biden posts incredible job numbers, GDP rises and inflation reduction and now even the doomsayers are admitting that the Biden economy is heading for a soft landing - and STILL Fox and the cult claim he is ruining the US.

I cannot even vocalise my hatred for the US right now - a monstrous part of me wants it to descend into a civil war - lovely thought in a time of goodwill amongst men.

Wait, thats what has you hating the US right now and not what they are enabling in Gaza?

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:53 pm

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:17 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:59 am

I think it's a foregone conclusion at this stage. You'd need a leader with the stature of FDR to pull them back from the brink.

Spanish civil war will be the blueprint. Gilead here we come.

Is it time to sit back and applaud the twisted genius of Putin and his 4D chess dismantling of western stability?

This rot set in long before Putin. At most he has taken advantage.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:56 pm If the Tories think the cupboard is bare when it comes to selecting candidates for Leadership, spare a thought for their intellectual feeder Party, the GOP.

Haley, who numerous people have called as being thick as two short planks demonstrated exactly this when faced with the ridiculously simple question: "What caused the Civil War ?"

Sure there's a little bit of wiggle room in the answer, but if the correct answer is 99% Slavery, & 1% States rights, then you can't expect anything but brickbats if you completely fail to mention the 99%. And as for this being some kind of trick question

The worst part was she was in New Hampshire for fuck sake !!!, it's not like its a haven of moonshine distillers, & sundry rednecks !

The GOP is just in the thrall of a cult of maybe 5% of the overall electorate, & while the morons are the only group the Politicians seem focused on, then it's perhaps to be expected that the policies & rhetoric is suitably moronic

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:56 pm If the Tories think the cupboard is bare when it comes to selecting candidates for Leadership, spare a thought for their intellectual feeder Party, the GOP.

Haley, who numerous people have called as being thick as two short planks demonstrated exactly this when faced with the ridiculously simple question: "What caused the Civil War ?"

Sure there's a little bit of wiggle room in the answer, but if the correct answer is 99% Slavery, & 1% States rights, then you can't expect anything but brickbats if you completely fail to mention the 99%. And as for this being some kind of trick question

The worst part was she was in New Hampshire for fuck sake !!!, it's not like its a haven of moonshine distillers, & sundry rednecks !

The GOP is just in the thrall of a cult of maybe 5% of the overall electorate, & while the morons are the only group the Politicians seem focused on, then it's perhaps to be expected that the policies & rhetoric is suitably moronic

"I mean of course, the Civil War was about slavery. We know that, that’s the easy part.” She also claimed that the questioner during the town hall was a “Democratic plant.”

Kiwias wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:32 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:56 pm If the Tories think the cupboard is bare when it comes to selecting candidates for Leadership, spare a thought for their intellectual feeder Party, the GOP.

Haley, who numerous people have called as being thick as two short planks demonstrated exactly this when faced with the ridiculously simple question: "What caused the Civil War ?"

Sure there's a little bit of wiggle room in the answer, but if the correct answer is 99% Slavery, & 1% States rights, then you can't expect anything but brickbats if you completely fail to mention the 99%. And as for this being some kind of trick question

The worst part was she was in New Hampshire for fuck sake !!!, it's not like its a haven of moonshine distillers, & sundry rednecks !

The GOP is just in the thrall of a cult of maybe 5% of the overall electorate, & while the morons are the only group the Politicians seem focused on, then it's perhaps to be expected that the policies & rhetoric is suitably moronic

She tried to explain herself the next day.

"I mean of course, the Civil War was about slavery. We know that, that’s the easy part.” She also claimed that the questioner during the town hall was a “Democratic plant.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/2 ... r-00133286

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:43 pm

Kiwias wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:32 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:56 pm If the Tories think the cupboard is bare when it comes to selecting candidates for Leadership, spare a thought for their intellectual feeder Party, the GOP.

Haley, who numerous people have called as being thick as two short planks demonstrated exactly this when faced with the ridiculously simple question: "What caused the Civil War ?"

Sure there's a little bit of wiggle room in the answer, but if the correct answer is 99% Slavery, & 1% States rights, then you can't expect anything but brickbats if you completely fail to mention the 99%. And as for this being some kind of trick question

The worst part was she was in New Hampshire for fuck sake !!!, it's not like its a haven of moonshine distillers, & sundry rednecks !

The GOP is just in the thrall of a cult of maybe 5% of the overall electorate, & while the morons are the only group the Politicians seem focused on, then it's perhaps to be expected that the policies & rhetoric is suitably moronic

She tried to explain herself the next day.

"I mean of course, the Civil War was about slavery. We know that, that’s the easy part.” She also claimed that the questioner during the town hall was a “Democratic plant.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/2 ... r-00133286

You mean that after her handlers explained to her how she fucked up the original answer, & was prepped for hours, she went back out & gave her prepared response to try to repair the damage.

The problem is that if the questioner had asked her who'd won the first World War, & she hadn't previously been briefed, there's a very good chance she'd have fucked that up too !

Presidents don't necessarily have to be geniuses, but they do need to be able to walk & chew gum at the same time.....

Gumboot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:53 am Haley has shown she's just as extremist as Trump. She wants to be on his ticket so will say nothing critical of him. She's hollow.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am It's official, the (MAGA majority) 118th session of the House of Representatives has been the least productive congressional session ever.

This graphic shows the number of bills enacted by the House in each session of the past 36 years.

The red bar on the right is 2023. A mere 20 bills enacted, many of them frivolous culture war gestures, compared to the hundreds of bills enacted in previous sessions. Beyond pathetic...



But hey, at least they're impeaching Joe Biden over nothing, right? Sooo productive...

These cunts barely pretend to even care about the real concerns of real Americans any more. They're there for the fundraising, not to govern.

Calculon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:47 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:43 pm

Kiwias wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:32 pm

She tried to explain herself the next day.



https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/2 ... r-00133286

You mean that after her handlers explained to her how she fucked up the original answer, & was prepped for hours, she went back out & gave her prepared response to try to repair the damage.

The problem is that if the questioner had asked her who'd won the first World War, & she hadn't previously been briefed, there's a very good chance she'd have fucked that up too !

Presidents don't necessarily have to be geniuses, but they do need to be able to walk & chew gum at the same time.....

not everyone you dislike or don't agree with politically is a moron, she clearly isn't one. at the moment she seems to be the only viable candidate against Trump to get the Republican nomination and we should all hope she gets it.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:51 am

Calculon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:47 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:43 pm

You mean that after her handlers explained to her how she fucked up the original answer, & was prepped for hours, she went back out & gave her prepared response to try to repair the damage.

The problem is that if the questioner had asked her who'd won the first World War, & she hadn't previously been briefed, there's a very good chance she'd have fucked that up too !

Presidents don't necessarily have to be geniuses, but they do need to be able to walk & chew gum at the same time.....

not everyone you dislike or don't agree with politically is a moron, she clearly isn't one. at the moment she seems to be the only viable candidate against Trump to get the Republican nomination and we should all hope she gets it.

No they aren't; & the ones who aren't stupid are far more dangerous than the one that are, but any Politician who can't craft an answer to a question that an 8 year old kid knows the answer to, is completely unsuitable for high office.

If she can't answer a question like that, how is she going to cope with high level diplomatic meetings where words have consequences that can last decades & cost lives ?

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:01 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:51 am

Calculon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:47 am

not everyone you dislike or don't agree with politically is a moron, she clearly isn't one. at the moment she seems to be the only viable candidate against Trump to get the Republican nomination and we should all hope she gets it.

No they aren't; & the ones who aren't stupid are far more dangerous than the one that are, but any Politician who can't craft an answer to a question that an 8 year old kid knows the answer to, is completely unsuitable for high office.

If she can't answer a question like that, how is she going to cope with high level diplomatic meetings where words have consequences that can last decades & cost lives ?

She got caught out by a question, for which the answer isn't really that simple considering the people she needs to vote for her. If that makes her a moron then pretty much neveryone is a moron, and that particular insult loses all meaning. I don't how intelligent she is, likely not as intellegent as the likes of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, both of whom are considered higly intellegent. Unfortunately in the latter's case he was very much a mediocre president for other reasons.

I would have thought she had pleny of high level diplomatic meetings as US Ambassador to the UN. A role in which she was widely considered a success, by both Democrats and Republicans. Anyway, she hardly has a history of making gaffes, unlike like Biden, who is actually doing fine as a President.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:10 am

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:01 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:51 am

No they aren't; & the ones who aren't stupid are far more dangerous than the one that are, but any Politician who can't craft an answer to a question that an 8 year old kid knows the answer to, is completely unsuitable for high office.

If she can't answer a question like that, how is she going to cope with high level diplomatic meetings where words have consequences that can last decades & cost lives ?

She got caught out by a question, for which the answer isn't really that simple considering the people she needs to vote for her. If that makes her a moron then pretty much neveryone is a moron, and that particular insult loses all meaning. I don't how intelligent she is, likely not as intellegent as the likes of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, both of whom are considered higly intellegent. Unfortunately in the latter's case he was very much a mediocre president for other reasons.

I would have thought she had pleny of high level diplomatic meetings as US Ambassador to the UN. A role in which she was widely considered a success, by both Democrats and Republicans. Anyway, she hardly has a history of making gaffes, unlike like Biden, who is actually doing fine as a President.

Being a success in the UN, as one of the permanent members, is like being a success in the school sports day when you're 7, it's isn't exactly a testing environment; everyone gets a fucking medal regardless...