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“The appointment of the coach is the board's responsibility, management provides insight, we will provide that to them.”

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Robinson confirms that any discussions on Ian Foster's future will include the New Zealand Rugby board. The timing on those discussions is still yet to be determined.

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“Serious conversations with players are private and we don't comment on them,” says Robinson. “We'll take stock, we'll comment later in the week.”

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"We've been having conversations right through this time with Foz. We believe we know where we stand, just have to work that through with him."

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So confirmed that Ian Foster keeps his job - for now at least

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"We'll be making no further comment until that time which will likely be the middle or latter of the week coming up"

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"The main priority is to get everyone home. Then we take stock, meet with management as soon as we can, and debrief how the tour went."

Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:37 am He won convincingly at Ellis Park.

He should stay.

convoluted wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:31 pm "That [the victory] was for all of us," Savea said. "For me personally that is my coach and I back him 100 per cent, side-by-side. He's been under a lot of pressure. I know he doesn't want to make it about himself, but I just want him to know that we have got his back and all the players have got his back.

"He's a great coach and he's got great coaches beside him, who back him 100 per cent. And I hope everyone that listens, that reads this, backs us."

Asked about whether he thinks that Foster should continue in the role, Savea reiterated what he'd already said.

"As I said he's my coach, that's it," he said.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:59 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:37 am He won convincingly at Ellis Park.

He should stay.

...at Ellis Park.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:09 am

convoluted wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:31 pm "That [the victory] was for all of us," Savea said. "For me personally that is my coach and I back him 100 per cent, side-by-side. He's been under a lot of pressure. I know he doesn't want to make it about himself, but I just want him to know that we have got his back and all the players have got his back.

"He's a great coach and he's got great coaches beside him, who back him 100 per cent. And I hope everyone that listens, that reads this, backs us."

Asked about whether he thinks that Foster should continue in the role, Savea reiterated what he'd already said.

"As I said he's my coach, that's it," he said.

Shut the fvck up Ardie

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:20 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:09 amShut the fvck up Ardie

And every other player who feels the need to speak out.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:39 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:20 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:09 amShut the fvck up Ardie

And every other player who feels the need to speak out.

Well said. They need to keep clear of this conversation.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:55 am From listening to both Cane and Ardie, it was clear that the players put everything in to this game. They were shattered, tanks were on zero.

That is not sustainable to need to go to that level every game in order to win.

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Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:00 pm I'll just leave this here.

https://rugby365.com/news/i-found-it-qu ... -park-win/

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:51 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:31 amCaleb Clark... jesus. That missed tackle was a howler...

His defence is woeful - just so casual and clueless ...

convoluted wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:53 pm If Razor had been told to prepare to take over, then musing on it this morning you'd imagine that there would by now be a signed and sealed contract.
Thus an Ellis Park outcome would have been irrelevant.
If there is not already a done deal, then it is surely far too late for the remainder of this Championship.

Regardless, there may have been a misread on here as to what Robinson meant during that nothingness of a press conference:

New Zealand Rugby boss Mark Robinson has refused to endorse Ian Foster's future as All Blacks head coach.
... A matter of hours after the All Blacks' dramatic 35-23 response at Ellis Park snapped their three-game losing run, Robinson fronted media via Zoom in a bizarre press conference where he outlined Foster's future will be determined once the team arrives home early next week, but offered no other insight into the likely outcome.

During a 20-minute press call Robinson was asked a number of different ways whether Foster will remain in charge for the All Blacks next Rugby Championship test against Argentina in Christchurch in two weeks, and whether Crusaders coach Scott Robertson and his team are on standby.

With each deflection, Foster's tenure became more undermined and seemingly less likely to continue.

... Robinson, possibly constrained by employment law process, began by praising the inspired All Blacks performance against the Springboks in a hostile atmosphere but with each probe he left Foster further in limbo ...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-bl ... CAGER2C5A/

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:49 pm The euphoria of a good win is one thing but it hardly compensated for 3 years of shit decisions, selections and tactics.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:43 pm Yep, sounds like it’s the board.

Although, Robinson was responsible for the extension and was backing him then.

As mentioned above, if he is going they would need a replacement immediately. So the wheels would have been in motion well ahead of the game. Who knows, maybe Robertson is already signed up?

The fact that Robinson is refusing to discuss it, it is telling.
He actually said “there is a process to” then quickly went back on it and said “some discussions to be had”.

Please let it be true !!!!

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:20 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:09 am

convoluted wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:31 pm "That [the victory] was for all of us," Savea said. "For me personally that is my coach and I back him 100 per cent, side-by-side. He's been under a lot of pressure. I know he doesn't want to make it about himself, but I just want him to know that we have got his back and all the players have got his back.

"He's a great coach and he's got great coaches beside him, who back him 100 per cent. And I hope everyone that listens, that reads this, backs us."

Asked about whether he thinks that Foster should continue in the role, Savea reiterated what he'd already said.

"As I said he's my coach, that's it," he said.

Shut the fvck up Ardie

And every other player who feels the need to speak out.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:41 am Show me a team that doesn't stand behind their coach...

it's such a needy thing to hold up. As Razor is the Peoples' Choice currently, let's go down to Christchurch and ask the Crusaders' players how they feel about him. Let's call into the other franchises while we're at it and ask those guys. Maybe we could ask the Maori ABs how they feel about Clayton McMillan as well, just for kicks because he looked like he was having a fat time in the coach's box.

As for Foster and his expectations... I expect to win Lotto every time I buy a ticket. So what.

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:02 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:20 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:09 am

Shut the fvck up Ardie

And every other player who feels the need to speak out.

Why are players not allowed to speak? Have we got to point as a rugby nation that we want automatums who only speak what we want them to say? Hell it's what Havili said to after test too, and I don't have a problem with that.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:08 am

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:02 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:20 am

And every other player who feels the need to speak out.

Why are players not allowed to speak? Have we got to point as a rugby nation that we want automatums who only speak what we want them to say? Hell it's what Havili said to after test too, and I don't have a problem with that.

I don't have a problem with players talking about the game etc., but believe that comments by the players about the coach are utterly meaningless. No player could be expected to say anything even remotely critical about the coach.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:41 am Show me a team that doesn't stand behind their coach...

it's such a needy thing to hold up. As Razor is the Peoples' Choice currently, let's go down to Christchurch and ask the Crusaders' players how they feel about him. Let's call into the other franchises while we're at it and ask those guys. Maybe we could ask the Maori ABs how they feel about Clayton McMillan as well, just for kicks because he looked like he was having a fat time in the coach's box.

As for Foster and his expectations... I expect to win Lotto every time I buy a ticket. So what.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:08 am

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:02 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:20 am

And every other player who feels the need to speak out.

Why are players not allowed to speak? Have we got to point as a rugby nation that we want automatums who only speak what we want them to say? Hell it's what Havili said to after test too, and I don't have a problem with that.

I don't have a problem with players talking about the game etc., but believe that comments by the players about the coach are utterly meaningless. No player could be expected to say anything even remotely critical about the coach.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:12 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:08 am

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:02 am

Why are players not allowed to speak? Have we got to point as a rugby nation that we want automatums who only speak what we want them to say? Hell it's what Havili said to after test too, and I don't have a problem with that.

I don't have a problem with players talking about the game etc., but believe that comments by the players about the coach are utterly meaningless. No player could be expected to say anything even remotely critical about the coach.

Just for laughs, ask them how they feel about the win loss record over the last 3 seasons.

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:32 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:08 am

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:02 am

Why are players not allowed to speak? Have we got to point as a rugby nation that we want automatums who only speak what we want them to say? Hell it's what Havili said to after test too, and I don't have a problem with that.

I don't have a problem with players talking about the game etc., but believe that comments by the players about the coach are utterly meaningless. No player could be expected to say anything even remotely critical about the coach.

Mate you obviously didn't see the players get rid of Link MacKenzie from Wallaby job. But even if you didn't want to be critical, wouldn't you just shut up?
I thimk perhaps we don't want the players to say anything we don't agree with. If I reviewing a coach I would always ask senior players their opinion anyway.
I just think in a world where everyone who knows very little (and not suggesting posters here) can say what they want publicly, why do we expect players to not be able to voice an opinion. I have heard TJP and Weber (and a few more) comment on gay rights etc, so surely they can comment on what they do for living!!!

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:51 am

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:32 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:08 am

I don't have a problem with players talking about the game etc., but believe that comments by the players about the coach are utterly meaningless. No player could be expected to say anything even remotely critical about the coach.

Mate you obviously didn't see the players get rid of Link MacKenzie from Wallaby job. But even if you didn't want to be critical, wouldn't you just shut up?
I thimk perhaps we don't want the players to say anything we don't agree with. If I reviewing a coach I would always ask senior players their opinion anyway.
I just think in a world where everyone who knows very little (and not suggesting posters here) can say what they want publicly, why do we expect players to not be able to voice an opinion. I have heard TJP and Weber (and a few more) comment on gay rights etc, so surely they can comment on what they do for living!!!

Calm down, mate. I am not talking about muzzling players across the board. I am saying that players should just shut up about coaches.

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:51 am Mate if players can't talk about coach whether for or against, surely they can't talk about anything to do with game. So do we tell them not to discuss tactics etc? Or they only to make coment if they agree with what we think. I would have no probs with a player saying we need to go in a new direction or something like that. Are you upset that players that Ryan is doing good work with forwards?
I see Sam W coming out behind Foster tonight basically saying that all of them are responsible for losses etc, so do we think he would not know, or isn't allowed to have an opinion?
Boy there will be some boring aftermatch interviews if players are muzzled this much.

Dan54 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:16 amMate if players can't talk about coach whether for or against, surely they can't talk about anything to do with game.