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Posted: **Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:05 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm
Mahoney wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:11 pm She's one of the weird Spiked brigade who have migrated from being revolutionary communists to being the Brexitiest of anti-woke reactionary culture warriors. Something very odd has happened there.
Along with Laurence Fox and Claire Fox amongst others who’ve transferred from far left to far right
Her husband Dougie Smith has been on the far right of the Conservative Party since he was a student and is still in Downing St. Though his claim to fame is organising upmarket sex parties

Easier to be performatively far right than far left, I'd say. No hair shirting, hobnob with the big nobs and plenty of well paid opinion pieces in print and online.

Posted: **Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:03 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm .......and his Director of Communications resigns as well
Just reported

...They were followed by the chief of staff Dan Rosenfield and senior civil servant Martin Reynolds

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:19 am**

The crew at JOE, knock it out of the park again

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:42 am**

GogLais wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:34 pm
If you add health care and state pensions you get to about 40%.

Well, that's totally misleading if that's how they arrived at the number. It does say projected to reach 40% (not now) but if the % above is the actual number, it's unlikely spending would increase by circa 20% in a few years.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:50 am**

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:25 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:16 pmThe patient record system were somewhere between £10bn and £12bn was toileted. And that was a decade ago and makes the PPE numbers look a little dull..
I assume those noted public sector organisations Accenture, BT, Fujitsu et al share none of the blame here...

It was one of those projects where a shit-ton of blame is to be had - the NHS, the cabinet, the private companies they outsourced to, pretty much everything was a fuckup. But you can point to shit-tons of big projects in the private sector that end up exactly the same way.

FFS JM. This is caveat emptor. The "game", like it or not, when you go down the path of public sector procuring from the private is no different to any other large organisation business transaction. It's called capitalism: each one is trying to max out what it strips from the other. The duty of those entrusted with the public purse is to ensure that we get the best value for money. By being staffed at all levels with half wits, instead, every single public sector contract runs n x over budget and, all too often, ends up being canned.

I've mentioned before that a good friend was one of the top project consultants for that debacle and the horror stories he'd share with us at weekends. He is a genuinely good guy and it almost broke him. So much so that he ended up quitting and went to Aus to get away from it all.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:56 am**

This is truly bizarre.

Fiona Bruce's question is awful "are you saying he's like George Clooney" rather than "why on earth do you want a conman leading the country?"

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am**

Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morning

Another adviser to Boris Johnson has reportedly quit after a day of departures dubbed the “meltdown in Downing Street”.

Elena Narozanski, a special adviser to the prime minister on women and equalities, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and extremism, has resigned, according to Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative Home.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:14 am**

Now or never for Rishi before the cost of living squeeze really hits home

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:21 am**

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morning
Another adviser to Boris Johnson has reportedly quit after a day of departures dubbed the “meltdown in Downing Street”.

Elena Narozanski, a special adviser to the prime minister on women and equalities, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and extremism, has resigned, according to Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative Home.

This appears to be a case of the ships leaving the sinking rat.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:26 am**

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:21 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morning
Another adviser to Boris Johnson has reportedly quit after a day of departures dubbed the “meltdown in Downing Street”.

Elena Narozanski, a special adviser to the prime minister on women and equalities, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and extremism, has resigned, according to Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative Home.

This appears to be a case of the ships leaving the sinking rat.

Unless you credit the Tory spin that it's all part of Boris's clear out - all according to plan.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:35 am**

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:26 am
Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:21 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morning

This appears to be a case of the ships leaving the sinking rat.
Unless you credit the Tory spin that it's all part of Boris's clear out - all according to plan.

So much for not making any hasty decisions, until we see the full Sue Gray report .....

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:58 am**

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:54 am**

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:26 am
Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:21 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morning

This appears to be a case of the ships leaving the sinking rat.
Unless you credit the Tory spin that it's all part of Boris's clear out - all according to plan.

I think only his hardcore supporters are going to be taken in by that now.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:59 am**

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:59 am

Speaker of the house will be really, really cross about that. I see a stern telling off in his most kindly school master voice at a time when no one will be listening ore viewing proceedings and no-one who matters from Con office will be arsed to turn up.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:28 pm**

They'll soon those shreds of decency out of her. Just 24% turnout BTW...

Anna Firth wins Southend West by-election held after David Amess' killing

Tory candidate paid tribute to Labour and the Lib Dems who chose not to contest the seat out of respect for Amess

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:48 pm**

PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pm Speaker of the house will be really, really cross about that. I see a stern telling off in his most kindly school master voice at a time when no one will be listening ore viewing proceedings and no-one who matters from Con office will be arsed to turn up.

Well since the "L" word seems to be verboten, can they just make pointed reference to "false claims"?

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm**

I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week

Wonder if this will become a regular feature?

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:09 pm**

PCPhil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:59 am
Speaker of the house will be really, really cross about that. I see a stern telling off in his most kindly school master voice at a time when no one will be listening ore viewing proceedings and no-one who matters from Con office will be arsed to turn up.

Now look, Alexander, what have you done to upset people this time? It really does reflect poorly on your character. I suggest you have a good, long think about it and we'll see how things are tomorrow, eh?

And as for you, Priti, I fully understand that you get carried away sometimes, but I think that if you take your time to look at the information and then present your feedback, it will make everything run smoothly for all concerned.

Now off you go, you two, there's still fifteen minutes of recess left before lunchtime, I'm sure you can usefully spend that time to fix up something nice for a couple of your chums.

Right. Who's next?

Blackford?

Send that little bastard in right away. Now, where did I put my cane?

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:36 pm**

I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:18 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:15 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:43 pm

Clearly he's not a better man than she pretends to think. Even now they're prostrating themselves in the face of his "extraordinary abilities" while he does his level best to prove himself a worse man than even his detractors claim.
I suspect that, when you’ve worked for someone for 14 years, it might be difficult to admit that that person is a despicable shit and always has been.
It's hard to believe she didn't realise he was always a power hungry, immoral, pos. She jumped before she was pushed to salvage some dignity.

It's a clear play to move from Boris to Sunak, who was her husband's best man. She's a snake just like him. Vile, dangerous person.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pm**

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week

Wonder if this will become a regular feature?

Presumably as a supplement.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:50 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week

Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
Presumably as a supplement.

@russinchesire does an amusing, if depressing weekly round up of tory lies over on twitter

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:05 pm**

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:50 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week

Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
Presumably as a supplement.
@russinchesire does an amusing, if depressing weekly round up of tory lies over on twitter

What made you stop voting Tory?

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:05 pm**

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:50 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week

Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
Presumably as a supplement.
@russinchesire does an amusing, if depressing weekly round up of tory lies over on twitter

What made you stop voting Tory?

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:08 pm**

I wanted to be cool and repeat myself like the lefties??

I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:51 pm**

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:08 pm I wanted to be cool and repeat myself like the lefties??

I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.

Not really, it was a simple playful

"have you stopped beating your wife?"
type question

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:54 pm**

I think that the Bell is now tolling now for Boris and his tenure with the latest letter to the 1922 shitbags.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:03 pm**

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:22 pm**

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:51 pm
Happyhooker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:08 pm I wanted to be cool and repeat myself like the lefties??

I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.
Not really, it was a simple playful

"have you stopped beating your wife?"
type question

No I have not

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:22 pm**

Levelling Up Secretary Michael Gove is the latest minister to defend Boris Johnson, as resignations and letters of no confidence rock his premiership.

Asked if the prime minister's team is in disarray, Gove tells reporters in Sunderland that Johnson "wanted" change and that we are "seeing that change now".

When asked about the loss of support in the PM by the leader of the Conservative Group on Sunderland Council, he says "we don't ignore, we nurture the grassroots".

Gove also insists the "best thing for the country is for the PM to continue".

Christ alive, what kind of parallel universe do these types live in where that could possibly be true?

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:23 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:03 pm

Also the psychedelic candidate got more votes than UKIP

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:48 pm**

The Tory North Norfolk MP (Baker, not very memorable) is going full fool on Newsnight:
There is a conspiracy from the BBC and all media against poor Boris - he nearly died you know!

Oh, and whereas the British people could lazily work from home, the poor No 10 staff had to come into the office and risked themselves getting Covid that way. They're heroes!

Deluded or just no self-respect, take your pick.

Oh, and Covid was the greatest crisis in over 100 years. Good thing there were no world wars in that time......

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:41 am**

I know Jonathan Pie only preaches to the choir, no one who voted for the bastard Tories is going to watch his videos, but sometimes he gets on a roll and it becomes art, of sorts

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opin ... tx-xYpC9U0

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:48 am**

Boris Johnson: Former minister joins calls for PM to resign

Another Conservative MP has called for Boris Johnson to resign as the turmoil at 10 Downing Street continues.

Former minister Nick Gibb is the latest Tory to submit a letter of no confidence in the prime minister.

He said his constituents were furious that No 10 had been "flagrantly disregarding" the Covid rules they set.

Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror reports a photograph of Mr Johnson holding a beer at a birthday gathering has been handed to police investigating Covid breaches.

The paper said the picture is one of 300 submitted to the Metropolitan Police investigation into 12 alleged gatherings and is thought to have been taken by the PM's official photographer, who is funded by the taxpayer.

It says it shows the prime minister holding a can of beer at an event in No 10's Cabinet Room in June 2020, alongside Chancellor Rishi Sunak, who was holding a soft drink.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60268378

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 am**

my thought too, definitely shagging - he's making the coffee and she's still pretty drunk

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:44 am**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 am my thought too, definitely shagging - he's making the coffee and she's still pretty drunk

Do they honestly think that sending her out to defend him does any good?

She said:

So did he tell the truth when he quoted that? Yes, he told the truth as it was given to him.”

Dorries added: “The prime minister does tell the truth.”

I can personally tell you that the prime minister, when he stands at the despatch box and makes quotes like the one you just quoted, is because the researchers and his advisers will have given him that quote, and that’s ... and he was truthful, to the best of his knowledge, when he made that quote,” she said.

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:28 pm**

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:22 pm
Levelling Up Secretary Michael Gove is the latest minister to defend Boris Johnson, as resignations and letters of no confidence rock his premiership.

Asked if the prime minister's team is in disarray, Gove tells reporters in Sunderland that Johnson "wanted" change and that we are "seeing that change now".

When asked about the loss of support in the PM by the leader of the Conservative Group on Sunderland Council, he says "we don't ignore, we nurture the grassroots".

Gove also insists the "best thing for the country is for the PM to continue".
Christ alive, what kind of parallel universe do these types live in where that could possibly be true?

‘Charlie’ does things to your brain.

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:53 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 am my thought too, definitely shagging - he's making the coffee and she's still pretty drunk

One can read too much into things but I wondered why he said 24 hours specifically. Do we know their whereabouts at the time?

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:10 pm**

Now that would be amazing but surely not. Boris going out with a bang would be hilarious.

Posted: **Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:59 pm**

Top Tories and the usual lickspittles still proclaiming that the No 10 departures were planned some time ago - but if so why are they leaving before any replacements are named?

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