Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:00 pm
Glasgow scrum has been good, even before Brace realised it
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Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:02 pm
Game's done. That was Exeter's chance to get something and get back in and Glasgow slammed the door in their face.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:04 pm
Just turned this one on. They can't be serious playing in that!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:09 pm
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:14 pm
That's the game
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:17 pm
Get the impression Exeter's ability to brutalise sides is on the wane.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:18 pm
Glasgow have been the better side in every department tonight
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:22 pm
A proper Glasgow shoeing 
Dempsey was a real beast tonight
Dempsey was a real beast tonight
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:22 pm
Very good win from Glasgow. Add that to Edinburgh well deserved win over Saracens last week and the Scottish sides look pretty good.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:23 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:28 pm
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:29 pm
Honestly don’t know why anyone is surprised by this at the moment. They are 2 good teams packed with good players and shouldn’t fear anyone
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:35 pm
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:15 pm
Sorry, not directed at you at all. There is no doubt the GP is a great competition but I do sometimes think the quality is vastly overrated and on any given year the top 5 or 6 Pro14 (whatever) would do just fine and get underestimatedBiffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:35 pmI’m not, but I’m sure some of the English rugby media will be looking for excuses.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:24 pm
The report in The Times about the Glasgow game is very amusing. Alasdair Reid makes no bones about the fact he saw very little and most of his reporting is based in heresy and crown noise
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:25 pm
I don't understand why Castres have even bothered taking the field, they clearly couldn't give a flying fuck and just want to amble around the pitch to see out the 80.
The competitiveness of the Prem and it's overall standard of play are definitely two things that shouldn't be conflated.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:15 pmSorry, not directed at you at all. There is no doubt the GP is a great competition but I do sometimes think the quality is vastly overrated and on any given year the top 5 or 6 Pro14 (whatever) would do just fine and get underestimated
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:51 pm
Well Castres are doing nothing but slow down the game and go through the motions, until it comes to defending their try line, yet it's enough to be a one score game.
If it weren't for the lack of other quality rugby thsi weekend I'd probably have turned off. It's dull.
If it weren't for the lack of other quality rugby thsi weekend I'd probably have turned off. It's dull.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:54 pm
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:59 pm
I like how you bold the heresy, but crown noise is okay
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:01 pm
haven’t even had a drink! Arriving at my mums after a long drive with the kids has rattled me. I’m sticking with that!Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:21 pm
I think that's a try
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:48 pm
The most amazing thing is some fans paid to come all the way from the Tarn to watch Castres field a secondish string side in a game they have no interest in.
{EDIT} And that finish sums it up.
{EDIT} And that finish sums it up.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:49 pm
Munster need to take a hard look at themselves. This Castres team are shit and have been taking the piss all night barely putting in the effort, but Munster still let them in LBP range.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:50 pm
Potentially within a score of winning!sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:49 pm Munster need to take a hard look at themselves. This Castres team are shit and have been taking the piss all night barely putting in the effort, but Munster still let them in LBP range.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:53 pm
What could they have achieved if they actually tried?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:50 pmPotentially within a score of winning!sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:49 pm Munster need to take a hard look at themselves. This Castres team are shit and have been taking the piss all night barely putting in the effort, but Munster still let them in LBP range.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:55 pm
Hence my comment previously. Castres have always made it clear that they don't have the budget for Europe and T14. That said, I did say in the Quins game that they have a habit of being cussed even when not trying to win.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:53 pmWhat could they have achieved if they actually tried?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:50 pmPotentially within a score of winning!sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:49 pm Munster need to take a hard look at themselves. This Castres team are shit and have been taking the piss all night barely putting in the effort, but Munster still let them in LBP range.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:11 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:55 pmHence my comment previously. Castres have always made it clear that they don't have the budget for Europe and T14. That said, I did say in the Quins game that they have a habit of being cussed even when not trying to win.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:53 pmWhat could they have achieved if they actually tried?
They have a budget of 22.8M Euros.
That's not too far short of the entire budget for the professional game in Scotland, the international side, two pro teams, their academies, the Super 6 (6 teams on a player salary of about £1500 each per year, that's not a typo), the Sevens teams, the women's teams at these levels, the U20s, and all the staff that go with them.
My heart is breaking for Castres.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 pm
Exeter are fifth in the league and have lost 40% of their matches in the league this season. They have a dreadful scrum, the worst starting scrum half in the league, a 97 year old empty shirt at 12, no openside, and their 10 can't find any form.Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:35 pmI’m not, but I’m sure some of the English rugby media will be looking for excuses.
They have some good players but some serious weaknesses, and have been (rightly) depowered by the latching law changes. Right now they are incredibly reliant on their big names doing something special.
Not sure why anyone would be looking for excuses.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:52 pm
Is this a joke?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 pmExeter are fifth in the league and have lost 40% of their matches in the league this season. They have a dreadful scrum, the worst starting scrum half in the league, a 97 year old empty shirt at 12, no openside, and their 10 can't find any form.
They have some good players but some serious weaknesses, and have been (rightly) depowered by the latching law changes. Right now they are incredibly reliant on their big names doing something special.
Not sure why anyone would be looking for excuses.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:26 pm
No. It's not a shock defeat - Exeter aren't that good this season and Glasgow are a better team. You still have to beat what's in front of you and the conditions certainly suited Exeter more than Glasgow, but I'm not sure *why* the media would be looking for excuses as to why a middling team lost away from home to a good side.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:52 pmIs this a joke?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 pmExeter are fifth in the league and have lost 40% of their matches in the league this season. They have a dreadful scrum, the worst starting scrum half in the league, a 97 year old empty shirt at 12, no openside, and their 10 can't find any form.
They have some good players but some serious weaknesses, and have been (rightly) depowered by the latching law changes. Right now they are incredibly reliant on their big names doing something special.
Not sure why anyone would be looking for excuses.
Sometimes I feel like you guys are a little too keen to invent something to be unhappy about!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:34 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:26 pmNo. It's not a shock defeat - Exeter aren't that good this season and Glasgow are a better team. You still have to beat what's in front of you and the conditions certainly suited Exeter more than Glasgow, but I'm not sure *why* the media would be looking for excuses as to why a middling team lost away from home to a good side.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:52 pmIs this a joke?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 pm
Exeter are fifth in the league and have lost 40% of their matches in the league this season. They have a dreadful scrum, the worst starting scrum half in the league, a 97 year old empty shirt at 12, no openside, and their 10 can't find any form.
They have some good players but some serious weaknesses, and have been (rightly) depowered by the latching law changes. Right now they are incredibly reliant on their big names doing something special.
Not sure why anyone would be looking for excuses.
Sometimes I feel like you guys are a little too keen to invent something to be unhappy about!
Glasgow have been a bit pish by their own standards, too. Played 7, won 4 lost 3 in the league.
We're just used to English clubs changing rules when they feel they can't qualify by merit and all sorts, and their media bleating on and on.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:37 pm
Going back a few years here.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:34 pmJM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:26 pmNo. It's not a shock defeat - Exeter aren't that good this season and Glasgow are a better team. You still have to beat what's in front of you and the conditions certainly suited Exeter more than Glasgow, but I'm not sure *why* the media would be looking for excuses as to why a middling team lost away from home to a good side.
Sometimes I feel like you guys are a little too keen to invent something to be unhappy about!
Glasgow have been a bit pish by their own standards, too. Played 7, won 4 lost 3 in the league.
We're just used to English clubs changing rules when they feel they can't qualify by merit and all sorts, and their media bleating on and on.
Bit of a shame you can't just enjoy a decent win without worrying about some hypothetical English media nonsense, mind!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:37 pmGoing back a few years here.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:34 pmJM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:26 pm
No. It's not a shock defeat - Exeter aren't that good this season and Glasgow are a better team. You still have to beat what's in front of you and the conditions certainly suited Exeter more than Glasgow, but I'm not sure *why* the media would be looking for excuses as to why a middling team lost away from home to a good side.
Sometimes I feel like you guys are a little too keen to invent something to be unhappy about!
Glasgow have been a bit pish by their own standards, too. Played 7, won 4 lost 3 in the league.
We're just used to English clubs changing rules when they feel they can't qualify by merit and all sorts, and their media bleating on and on.
Bit of a shame you can't just enjoy a decent win without worrying about some hypothetical English media nonsense, mind!
oh come on, I was just have a wee bit of fun there.
I actually don't give a monkey's beyond the teams I support doing well.
I like seeing your team Quins doing well because of how they play, I've been a champion of Marcus Smith since his debut.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:53 pm
Was more the royal "you" really!Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm
oh come on, I was just have a wee bit of fun there.
I actually don't give a monkey's beyond the teams I support doing well.
I like seeing your team Quins doing well because of how they play, I've been a champion of Marcus Smith since his debut.
That's Singapore-born Marcus Smith, as our papers keep calling him
Shame the tournament appears headed for disaster this season. Would be nice to see if we can make the knock outs and play against much bigger teams, see what we can do...Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:09 am
Something that Quins did, they made a rugby player out of Tim Visser.
He could only score the two against the All Blacks for Scotland on (I think) his debut, but he was not a good rugby player, try scorer par excellence (record scorer in the league, tons of times), but not a good rugby player.
Quins taught him where to position himself defensively and how to catch a ball.
He could only score the two against the All Blacks for Scotland on (I think) his debut, but he was not a good rugby player, try scorer par excellence (record scorer in the league, tons of times), but not a good rugby player.
Quins taught him where to position himself defensively and how to catch a ball.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:14 am
You reply defensively to a post about making excuses by listing a load of excuses then finish by asking why anyone would make excuses.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:26 pmNo. It's not a shock defeat - Exeter aren't that good this season and Glasgow are a better team. You still have to beat what's in front of you and the conditions certainly suited Exeter more than Glasgow, but I'm not sure *why* the media would be looking for excuses as to why a middling team lost away from home to a good side.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:52 pmIs this a joke?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 pm
Exeter are fifth in the league and have lost 40% of their matches in the league this season. They have a dreadful scrum, the worst starting scrum half in the league, a 97 year old empty shirt at 12, no openside, and their 10 can't find any form.
They have some good players but some serious weaknesses, and have been (rightly) depowered by the latching law changes. Right now they are incredibly reliant on their big names doing something special.
Not sure why anyone would be looking for excuses.
Sometimes I feel like you guys are a little too keen to invent something to be unhappy about!
That’s why I thought it might be a joke. Should have known better
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:56 am
Yeah, the response to a 'cue the excuses' post was to immediately roll the excuses out.Slick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:14 amYou reply defensively to a post about making excuses by listing a load of excuses then finish by asking why anyone would make excuses.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:26 pmNo. It's not a shock defeat - Exeter aren't that good this season and Glasgow are a better team. You still have to beat what's in front of you and the conditions certainly suited Exeter more than Glasgow, but I'm not sure *why* the media would be looking for excuses as to why a middling team lost away from home to a good side.
Sometimes I feel like you guys are a little too keen to invent something to be unhappy about!
That’s why I thought it might be a joke. Should have known better
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:28 am
Or it was someone providing context around Exeter's current form and why an away loss to Glasgow wouldn't spur rugby writers to expend energy making it out to be anything other than it was - a significant defeat at the hands of a team who outperformed them.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:54 am
Without taking into context Glasgows average form. If you want context you can’t ignore a bit of it.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:28 am Or it was someone providing context around Exeter's current form and why an away loss to Glasgow wouldn't spur rugby writers to expend energy making it out to be anything other than it was - a significant defeat at the hands of a team who outperformed them.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:17 am
Maybe Glasgow just played above themselves a bit? Teams do this. Exeter raised their game a few weeks ago when Saracens went down there. It happens.