NPR

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:12 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

A game that Ireland controlled most of the time, except for an freak counter attack try by France and 10-15 minutes in the second half. 4 tries scored, held up 3 times. Sums it up.

Strategically, tactically and mentally, Ireland were the better team and the score reflects the gap between the two teams.

I think that's fair ish. France played a decent away game. Could have knicked it and it would have been deserved but we held our nerve to clinch it.

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:43 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:41 pm Not much point talking further until it's confirmed TMO only has access to angles given. My understanding is they get all camera feeds but happy to be proven wrong.

Anyone have the incriminating angle?

Take my word for it. ITV showed clear foot in touch, right at the back end of multiple angles being shown to their pundits.

Fück em. First try last year was off a forward pass and the angle only surfaced after the game.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

Ireland deserved win.

Should be a stepping stone, rather than a summit.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

Who the hell schedules a club game to clash with 6n.

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:46 pm

dob wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:39 pm

Jeez lads. Jalibert is not the first or last 10 to get knocked over by a forward on the charge.

He should never have been made to play at FB. Might as well have stuck him in at prop. I really wonder whether Galthie did it out of spite.

He was not in a fullback position to make that tackle. He was right on the defensive line with the rest of the players.

I really don't know what it is you are watching. Maybe the same TV as Galthie?





At the end he is left covering a 3 on 1.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:20 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

Who the hell schedules a club game to clash with 6n.

14.15 kick off for the 6N decider is a BOS to be fair

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:20 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

Who the hell schedules a club game to clash with 6n.

All the leagues in England?

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

Your boys were very good.

McCloskey had his best game for Ireland. Won a crucial turnover.

Hendo and O'Toole made serious impact when they came on.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

A super game of rugby. Keenan and Doris were immense. McCloskey had his best game in an Irish shirt. We were deserved winners and could have won by more. Barnes will face scrutiny after getting the two biggest decisions wrong.
I would recommend watching the game in full. The intensity of the first half was insane.

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:43 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:41 pm Not much point talking further until it's confirmed TMO only has access to angles given. My understanding is they get all camera feeds but happy to be proven wrong.

Anyone have the incriminating angle?

Take my word for it. ITV showed clear foot in touch, right at the back end of multiple angles being shown to their pundits.

I'll never forgive Stade Francais in Lille. Fuck 'em.

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:39 pm

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:43 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:41 pm Not much point talking further until it's confirmed TMO only has access to angles given. My understanding is they get all camera feeds but happy to be proven wrong.

Anyone have the incriminating angle?

Take my word for it. ITV showed clear foot in touch, right at the back end of multiple angles being shown to their pundits.

I'll never forgive Stade Francais in Lille. Fuck 'em.

Hey, no Catholic guilt from me, I can assure you. I am revelling in the joys of fornication.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:20 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:10 pm Saw the last 10 mins while sat in the changing room. Summary anyone?

Who the hell schedules a club game to clash with 6n.

Doesn’t Earl live in England? I’ve played games at the same time as non-Ireland games to be able to watch the Ireland game in the clubhouse.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:19 pm The foot in touch defied physics but looked great so advantage Barnes there.

In Barnes's world, gravity operates in reverse?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:21 pm

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:46 pm
He should never have been made to play at FB. Might as well have stuck him in at prop. I really wonder whether Galthie did it out of spite.

He was not in a fullback position to make that tackle. He was right on the defensive line with the rest of the players.

I really don't know what it is you are watching. Maybe the same TV as Galthie?





At the end he is left covering a 3 on 1.

Do you have the picture of the tackle? Still doesn't explain why he doesn't complete his tackle.


That being said, I agree he is not a fullback and shouldn't play there.


What did you think of his kicking length compared to Ntamack?

So.... Doris?.. best player in the world right now?

Two bad decisions today but France up on balance, red in this sort of contest worth more than the 5 from the Lowe try.

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:32 pm Do you have the picture of the tackle? Still doesn't explain why he doesn't complete his tackle.


That being said, I agree he is not a fullback and shouldn't play there.


What did you think of his kicking length compared to Ntamack?

So you were wrong?

It's easy to explain why he missed the tackle
- he's not a great defender
- which was made worse by him playing out of position and precisely why it was cretin stuff by Galthie to make that positional change.

It was a 3 on 1 and even though Ireland had compressed it, Ringrose would have offloaded and they would have scored anyway.

Jalibert has way more length on his kicks than Ntamack. Off the floor or out of hand. As was shown by the 2 kicks to touch that backed one another. Ntamack's made bugger all m before the next one was handed to Jalibert. Read the T14 thread: at least in England, Ntamack has been rumbled for the spoofer he is.

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:32 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:21 pm

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

He was not in a fullback position to make that tackle. He was right on the defensive line with the rest of the players.

I really don't know what it is you are watching. Maybe the same TV as Galthie?





At the end he is left covering a 3 on 1.

Do you have the picture of the tackle? Still doesn't explain why he doesn't complete his tackle.


That being said, I agree he is not a fullback and shouldn't play there.


What did you think of his kicking length compared to Ntamack?

Any decent attacking back should fancy his chances of beating the first defender from that position, if the pass is any way good. And Doris’ pass was very good.

happytramp wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:36 pm So.... Doris?.. best player in the world right now?

There’s nobody you can say is better.

The Mayo man was on another planet.

Both tight heads were great, probably the nicest surprise of the tournament.

Conor Murray should not have been playing, he was on another planet. The bench, including Casey, being so good was a decider.

Well done France, backs especially had us falling over ourselves.

TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:58 pm The Mayo man was on another planet.

Both tight heads were great, probably the nicest surprise of the tournament.

Conor Murray should not have been playing, he was on another planet. The bench, including Casey, being so good was a decider.

Well done France, backs especially had us falling over ourselves.

You were by far the better team. For every giant performance (e.g. Penaud) there was a dismal showing (e.g. Willemse). You had great performances but not really anyone who didn't at least do a passable job. In toto, that was a gulf. Too many passengers.

The massively frustrating and infuriating thing is some of us know how good the backs could be (and they are missing the best wing in the world in Villiere and the critical go forwards of Danty) IF they had a f**king FH who didn't cripple them at every opportunity.

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:46 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:41 pm Not much point talking further until it's confirmed TMO only has access to angles given. My understanding is they get all camera feeds but happy to be proven wrong.

Anyone have the incriminating angle?

Just need to figure out who to blame now. That looks damming.

Does it? His foot certainly touched the grass after he grounded the ball, which we can’t see in that gif

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:06 pm BERNOL RATINGS

- Ramos 3
- Moefana 4
- Ntamack 4
- Alldritt 4 (not sure how he gets the same as Ntamack. Whilst he was way too quiet, nowhere near as many foul ups as Ntamack.
- Willemse 3
- Atonio 4

With those performances, the result really wasn't being contested. For those in France, the score is out of 10 and not from 5.......

That's silly.

anonymous_joe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:07 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:06 pm BERNOL RATINGS

- Ramos 3
- Moefana 4
- Ntamack 4
- Alldritt 4 (not sure how he gets the same as Ntamack. Whilst he was way too quiet, nowhere near as many foul ups as Ntamack.
- Willemse 3
- Atonio 4

With those performances, the result really wasn't being contested. For those in France, the score is out of 10 and not from 5.......

That's silly.

It really is.

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:04 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:46 pm

Just need to figure out who to blame now. That looks damming.

Does it? His foot certainly touched the grass after he grounded the ball, which we can’t see in that gif

As far as I can recall the final whistle blew and it was still a try.

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:04 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:46 pm

Just need to figure out who to blame now. That looks damming.

Does it? His foot certainly touched the grass after he grounded the ball, which we can’t see in that gif

Well, yeah, if they've frozen that after he touched down then they're being disingenuous.

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:04 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:46 pm

Just need to figure out who to blame now. That looks damming.

Does it? His foot certainly touched the grass after he grounded the ball, which we can’t see in that gif

Touching the grass after the grounding was way later on. And no where near the touch line... the ball was a foot in the air before being grounded at the point he touched the ground...

Virgin panel just confirmed it's a six nations TV production team with TMO having access to all angles. Nothing to do with local TV.

Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

They made the point that TMO's have been asked to hurry up so might have been a factor but still shoddy.

At least it wasn't in the last minute to win the match... and I don't think it would have affected the result had it been disallowed anyway.

Good decision, I feel.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:22 pm At least it wasn't in the last minute to win the match... and I don't think it would have affected the result had it been disallowed anyway.

I think we had advantage? So might have scored anyway or at least 3 points.

Hi lads, delighted I remembered this place! Can somebody help - is the PR forum down? I am only seeing posts from the 9th of Feb

myselfandmydog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:26 pm Hi lads, delighted I remembered this place! Can somebody help - is the PR forum down? I am only seeing posts from the 9th of Feb

It's there... but you can't post on it. Technical problems...

Thanks I dont feel like such a dope now! I got a new modem and thought I was doing something stupid.

myselfandmydog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:31 pm Thanks I dont feel like such a dope now! I got a new modem and thought I was doing something stupid.

Are you the same username on PR? Or did you register there before the dog came along?

The Boks will roll this two.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

Joue joue :

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.

No Way Jose

Boks 2nd tier these days, lacking the top 2 inches.