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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:08 am
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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:36 am
Uhm.. Just a point of order if I may Sards. Sacha is ours, you can't claim him. We are happy for you to claim the weekend special. :thumbup:
Its only a matter of time before he joins Fassi at the Sharks...

I rated him as a bok here first.........whilst ouboet and the entire cape nation wanted Manie as our 10.

I am happy to share Sascha with you lot
Nope. He oozes WP. Born in Cape Town. Went to Bishops. Played age grade here. You have Masuku remember. He is your guy. We all appreciate that you are a closet Stormer, but have you no shame?
I am glad you see it my way...

Sascha is class.......I do worry about all the hype he is getting....he is too young to handle that......but what a player...X factor in bucket loads
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:12 am
LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:08 am You have Masuku remember. He is your guy.
Sards has been very quiet about him lately.
Uhhhmmmmmm........

the Sharks URC squad have been AWOL .......we fielded youngsters in the CC.....noone has seen anything of Masuka.... :crazy:

First look we had of URC players were a sprinkle that showed up against the Griffons....Mapimpi and Jordan

Maybe thats the clue Eggman
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Impressed with Fassi over the weekend.

Still giving me "young Willie le Roux" vibes in his positive vs negative impact ratio, but I think he acquitted himself quite well in a high intensity match. He made a very good cover tackle on an All Black linebreak and was good under the high ball. Pity he fluffed that 22 exit after the mark he called. That was a brainfart. I'd also like to see him join the line more as a strike runner, but that will come with experience. I guess with Sacha at 10 being creative we don't need the 15 to come in as first receiver like Willie does for Pollard, but then I'd like to see Fassi hit the line at pace outside of Am/Jessie to create some space for the wings.
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Blake wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:25 am Impressed with Fassi over the weekend.

Still giving me "young Willie le Roux" vibes in his positive vs negative impact ratio, but I think he acquitted himself quite well in a high intensity match. He made a very good cover tackle on an All Black linebreak and was good under the high ball. Pity he fluffed that 22 exit after the mark he called. That was a brainfart. I'd also like to see him join the line more as a strike runner, but that will come with experience. I guess with Sacha at 10 being creative we don't need the 15 to come in as first receiver like Willie does for Pollard, but then I'd like to see Fassi hit the line at pace outside of Am/Jessie to create some space for the wings.
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:59 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:56 am
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Everyone was Manie years ago until it all started falling apart......
I mean , first4 kicks missed this weekend past for Wp.....and then the lighty comes on and does the job......
With Manie its been the same for every union he played at........looks good initially and then unravels...just like Boeta and Curwin
Why did you add the s? A year ago, no six months ago you were the biggest Manie supporter. Us Stormers supporters all know for ages Manie cant kick, but you keep on backing him.
Because first season URC he was on fire.
Second season his kicking lost it for the Stomps....and 3rd season.....so it is years
But why did you support him ONE year ago?
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:57 am
LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:36 am
Uhm.. Just a point of order if I may Sards. Sacha is ours, you can't claim him. We are happy for you to claim the weekend special. :thumbup:
Its only a matter of time before he joins Fassi at the Sharks...

I rated him as a bok here first.........whilst ouboet and the entire cape nation wanted Manie as our 10.

I am happy to share Sascha with you lot
You are just plain stupid. No Stormers supporter never want Libbok in front of SMZ. He got into the Stormers team when Damian Willemse was with the Springboks and he did the same role for Dobson at the Stormer. Then Libbok got pulled into the Bok squad and SMZ only got in this year.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:12 am
LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:08 am You have Masuku remember. He is your guy.
Sards has been very quiet about him lately.
Maties discovered Masuku like most provincial flyhalfs.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:02 pm

Because first season URC he was on fire.
Second season his kicking lost it for the Stomps....and 3rd season.....so it is years
But why did you support him ONE year ago?
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Because first season URC he was on fire.
Second season his kicking lost it for the Stomps....and 3rd season.....so it is years



Is that correct. You are allowed to change your opinion you know
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:47 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:02 pm

Because first season URC he was on fire.
Second season his kicking lost it for the Stomps....and 3rd season.....so it is years
But why did you support him ONE year ago?

Because first season URC he was on fire.
Second season his kicking lost it for the Stomps....and 3rd season.....so it is years



Is that correct. You are allowed to change your opinion you know
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I give up on you again. To old for your kak.
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Sards and Oom sitting in a tree...
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Blake wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:36 pm Sards and Oom sitting in a tree...
They don't even quote properly :lol:
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Kiss kiss kiss for ouboet. He is in a dark place atm.
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The guys who are playing against Argentina already know. We’ve already announced that internally,” Erasmus said. “They’ve been practicing together already.

“We’ve got three days off. We will get together again on Wednesday night in Stellenbosch. We will send one group over to Argentina and we will keep one group here for the home leg.”
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If there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!

And don't lose to Argentina .
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 amIf there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!
This.
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Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:57 am
assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 amIf there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!
This.
2009 Boks would give these guys a great match. Morne wouldn’t miss his shots at goal and I think Matfield & Botha would eat our shonky lineout for breakfast.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:58 am
Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:57 am
assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 amIf there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!
This.
2009 Boks would give these guys a great match. Morne wouldn’t miss his shots at goal and I think Matfield & Botha would eat our shonky lineout for breakfast.
Coaches, that is where the advantage lies currently. I think it is safe to say that Erasmus is probably the best Springbok coach we have ever had. And it's not even close. When he leaves at the end of this cycle, he'll hand over some legacy.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:58 am
Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:57 am
assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 amIf there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!
This.
2009 Boks would give these guys a great match. Morne wouldn’t miss his shots at goal and I think Matfield & Botha would eat our shonky lineout for breakfast.
And if all else failed, Frans Steyn would casually bang over a few shots from 60 metres out... but it's hard to argue with 2 World Cups and a squad that looks like it can get even better.
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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:14 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:58 am
Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:57 am

This.
2009 Boks would give these guys a great match. Morne wouldn’t miss his shots at goal and I think Matfield & Botha would eat our shonky lineout for breakfast.
Coaches, that is where the advantage lies currently. I think it is safe to say that Erasmus is probably the best Springbok coach we have ever had. And it's not even close. When he leaves at the end of this cycle, he'll hand over some legacy.
This. We never had the depth we have now. Maybe we should thank Leinster and the URC for this. SH teams are small minded when it comes to their national team by selecting their best XV test after test. Rassie changed that on its head with his squad system. The only negative is the amount of stupid handling errors like we seen in the past 4 tests. However no complains if you keep winning.
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Confirmed...our Springbok captain is coming back to the Sharks.

So glad we rescued him from that French Vokfest
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:28 am Confirmed...our Springbok captain is coming back to the Sharks.

So glad we rescued him from that French Vokfest
The captain which you criticized for ages.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:28 am Confirmed...our Springbok captain is coming back to the Sharks.

So glad we rescued him from that French Vokfest
The captain which you criticized for ages.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:28 am Confirmed...our Springbok captain is coming back to the Sharks.

So glad we rescued him from that French Vokfest
The captain which you criticized for ages.
Sharks made a better captain and player out of him.... :thumbup:

Don't be jealous now...next you will start throwing shade at him as is the Stomps way......
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 am If there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!

And don't lose to Argentina .
What i am missing from this team are dominant and assured performances. Especially now that we are mostly the favorites. We are rather scambeling to those victories, we never seem to be in control of games. Ireland beat us up.
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boere wors wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:01 am
assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 am If there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!

And don't lose to Argentina .
What i am missing from this team are dominant and assured performances. Especially now that we are mostly the favorites. We are rather scambeling to those victories, we never seem to be in control of games. Ireland beat us up.
I'm worrying about the same thing.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
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boere wors wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:01 am What i am missing from this team are dominant and assured performances. Especially now that we are mostly the favorites. We are rather scambeling to those victories, we never seem to be in control of games. Ireland beat us up.
Oh I totally agree. First half on Saturday was a shambles.

But we keep winning.

Our luck will run out, so I hope we work on it.
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:59 am
boere wors wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:01 am What i am missing from this team are dominant and assured performances. Especially now that we are mostly the favorites. We are rather scambeling to those victories, we never seem to be in control of games. Ireland beat us up.
Oh I totally agree. First half on Saturday was a shambles.

But we keep winning.

Our luck will run out, so I hope we work on it.
I was quite surprised that Rassie didn't try something unique, like that lineout against the Wobbles.
Either NZ played us so hard we couldn't get there, or Rassie is saving it for the Argentinians.
Next match is critical for me. Rather wrap it up in 1 game then stretching it to 2
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 am If there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!
This is definitely a team that is up there with the 2009 and 97-98 teams.

But we still have a couple of items on the checklist to break the tie and make it undisputed.
- They still need to beat Ireland in Ireland (0 wins from the 1 attempt in 2022)
- They need to put away NZ in NZ . We've played NZ 13 times since Rassie took over in 2018 and only played 3 of those matches in NZ, with 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss...the biggest loss this team has suffered.
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:28 am Confirmed...our Springbok captain is coming back to the Sharks.

So glad we rescued him from that French Vokfest
Sure is nice to have a benefactor that can just bail Kolisi out of his R17 million contract like that.
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Blake wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:05 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:28 am Confirmed...our Springbok captain is coming back to the Sharks.

So glad we rescued him from that French Vokfest
Sure is nice to have a benefactor that can just bail Kolisi out of his R17 million contract like that.
Don't you think he is worth it.
I mean. Imagine if he becomes the first skipper to win 3 RWCs consecutively. That would put him as the greatest skipper ever. Without a doubt. And he is still young enough to achieve that.

Forgive me for posting a bit but I am at the cricket clinic outside in my car waiting for my son to finish
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:08 pm Don't you think he is worth it.
I mean. Imagine if he becomes the first skipper to win 3 RWCs consecutively. That would put him as the greatest skipper ever. Without a doubt. And he is still young enough to achieve that.

Forgive me for posting a bit but I am at the cricket clinic outside in my car waiting for my son to finish
That's a LOT of money and I'm not sure how I feel about the precedent, but it's also a drop in the bucket for a US Dollar billionaire so I guess he can spend his money however he wants.

Nobody forced Siya to go to France. Nobody forced him to sign that contract. I get that players get homesick in Europe or are unhappy there...Goosen, Kitshoff and now Siya. I'm sure there are others I forgot about. It just leaves a bit of a bad taste is all. I'm glad Siya is back, just wish he never left to begin with.
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Blake wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:03 pm
assfly wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 am If there was any doubt, then Saturday confirmed we are in the golden era of Springbok rugby. Undoubtedly the best Bok team ever, and arguable one of the best rugby team to ever play the game. Enjoy it!
This is definitely a team that is up there with the 2009 and 97-98 teams.

But we still have a couple of items on the checklist to break the tie and make it undisputed.
- They still need to beat Ireland in Ireland (0 wins from the 1 attempt in 2022)
- They need to put away NZ in NZ . We've played NZ 13 times since Rassie took over in 2018 and only played 3 of those matches in NZ, with 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss...the biggest loss this team has suffered.
Agree with that, but would argue that 1 win, 1 loss and 1 draw versus NZ in NZ is not a bad stat at all. I wonder if the Boks will play the AB's at Eden Park next year. That is probably the pinnacle venue as far as difficulty is concerned, there is no tougher place in the world to win. Some record they got there.
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Blake wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:23 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:08 pm Don't you think he is worth it.
I mean. Imagine if he becomes the first skipper to win 3 RWCs consecutively. That would put him as the greatest skipper ever. Without a doubt. And he is still young enough to achieve that.

Forgive me for posting a bit but I am at the cricket clinic outside in my car waiting for my son to finish
That's a LOT of money and I'm not sure how I feel about the precedent, but it's also a drop in the bucket for a US Dollar billionaire so I guess he can spend his money however he wants.

Nobody forced Siya to go to France. Nobody forced him to sign that contract. I get that players get homesick in Europe or are unhappy there...Goosen, Kitshoff and now Siya. I'm sure there are others I forgot about. It just leaves a bit of a bad taste is all. I'm glad Siya is back, just wish he never left to begin with.
Is it really a lot of money.

These blokes are highly paid and deserve every cent.

BTW......sportsman's warehouse tygervalley Wednesday 1 to 3 pm. Springboks signing session
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If Siya keeps playing for Sharks and Boks like he has the last 4 weeks, then he will be worth every cent! If he goes a AWOL again in matches, then it'll look like a bad deal.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:42 pm If Siya keeps playing for Sharks and Boks like he has the last 4 weeks, then he will be worth every cent! If he goes a AWOL again in matches, then it'll look like a bad deal.
Always thought he was a slacker. But man he has been hitting the players back on his runs and has been doing a lot of work. But this has been recent. Since just before the RWC. But he has maintained it for the boks so good for him.

Yes he loves social media but so does Jesse Kriel. Good luck to him with all the things he posts.

Of course you still get the idiots that still call him a quota.
Boggles the mind that people can't adapt to the new South Africa.

I will never be grudge a man his success if it's earned. I mean how can you even think that. Aren't we all looking for the best deal for ourselves.

And he is inspirational.

Sharks are very lucky to have him there. In my opinion he is coasting onwards to being the best captain ever in the sport.
His achievements alone are phenomenal. Adding the RC trophy to the return of the Freedom Cup will make him the best captain ever. I hope I don't jinx him now.

Add Eben to the Sharks mix. It's a dream come true for any franchise
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:54 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:42 pm If Siya keeps playing for Sharks and Boks like he has the last 4 weeks, then he will be worth every cent! If he goes a AWOL again in matches, then it'll look like a bad deal.
Always thought he was a slacker. But man he has been hitting the players back on his runs and has been doing a lot of work. But this has been recent. Since just before the RWC. But he has maintained it for the boks so good for him.

Yes he loves social media but so does Jesse Kriel. Good luck to him with all the things he posts.

Of course you still get the idiots that still call him a quota.
Boggles the mind that people can't adapt to the new South Africa.

I will never be grudge a man his success if it's earned. I mean how can you even think that. Aren't we all looking for the best deal for ourselves.

And he is inspirational.

Sharks are very lucky to have him there. In my opinion he is coasting onwards to being the best captain ever in the sport.
His achievements alone are phenomenal. Adding the RC trophy to the return of the Freedom Cup will make him the best captain ever. I hope I don't jinx him now.

Add Eben to the Sharks mix. It's a dream come true for any franchise
Why did you hate him for such a long time?
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To be fair, for years Kolisi played kak and was a passenger in the bok team. 2018 until the lions Lions series. There he came good.
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Blake wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:05 pm Sure is nice to have a benefactor that can just bail Kolisi out of his R17 million contract like that.
I know we've got a bit of cash lying around, but I can't quite figure out how we afford him. Especially with some of our recent signings like AE, Jason Jenkins, Vincent Koch.

Perhaps they decided to break the bank because of the marketing collateral of having one of the biggest names in world rugby playing, and some people are able to demonstrate the return on investment by ticket sales, additional sponsorships, etc. Perhaps he also took a bit of a hit to his payslip to allow it to happen.

I'm not that excited about him being back. He'll only be with us for half the season if we're lucky. And I think think we have some really good youngsters coming through that I wouldn't want to lose if they end up playing second fiddle.

Kolisi thrives on the emotional energy of the Boks. Perhaps that's why he struggled at Racing, because of the immediate drop-off from the World Cup. A wet Friday night at Rodney Parade isn't quite a sold-out Ellis Park, so let's see how he gets on, when he eventually plays for us.
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I sometimes listen to Keo's show. Do not think less of me for it.

Does anyone else wonder if Zels is onto something, he's the only South African out there critical of the Boks really. In his view Tony Brown is making the Boks worse and diluting a winning formula by making players do things they're less good at. Zels is a bit of a loony if you look at his Twitter feed (Keo mocks him for being a "conspiracy nut").

I wonder if there could be something in what he's saying though, it's just a fact these wins were close, but one side looked like they put everything they had on the park whilst the other side didn't play at their best then turned up at the end to win. On the other hand this is the direction World Rugby want to go (a lot of law changes target the way the Boks prefer to play), it's probably wiser and easier to move in the same direction.

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