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Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:30 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:21 pm Penaud is off to UBB

Clermont are going to have to sort themselves...

From 1 club in crisis..........

That said, recall I did say last year he needed to get out of there because ASM was destroying player's careers with most of them going backwards: Ituria, Jedrasiak etc And then you can throw in the prospect of being sued by former players for concussion including Thugmore and Lapandry.

Posted: **Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:26 am**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:46 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:21 pm Penaud is off to UBB

Clermont are going to have to sort themselves...
Don’t know what is happening there (Jono Gibbs?) itused to be players from UBB going to Clermont, Lopez, Païva, Pelissié.
This season Bordeaux got Vili and Falatea from them, now Penaud
With maybe Radradra coming back, it looks like Marti wants a trophy before he gives the keys to the next prez.

Good answer

J'ai surtout regardé la qualité de l'effectif. Il y a aussi la rencontre avec le président Laurent Marti et le futur manager Yannick Bru, Le courant est passé de suite ! Je me suis retrouvé dans le projet qu'ils m'ont présenté. L'UBB développe également du jeu. Un jeu basé sur les trois-quarts. C'était un élément à prendre en considération, qui me correspond. Enfin, la signature de Thibault Giroud, le directeur de la performance de l'équipe de France, avec qui je m'entends très bien, a été un facteur déterminant. Il est très professionnel et à l'écoute des joueurs.
gagner des titres C'est ce qui est beau dans ce nouveau challenge. Il y a une page à écrire avec l'UBB.
Je n'ai jamais réellement eu d'approche concrète.avec Toulouse, j'ai signé à Bordeaux-Bègles et je ne regrette pas mon choix.»

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:58 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:30 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:21 pm Penaud is off to UBB

Clermont are going to have to sort themselves...
From 1 club in crisis..........

That said, recall I did say last year he needed to get out of there because ASM was destroying player's careers with most of them going backwards: Ituria, Jedrasiak etc And then you can throw in the prospect of being sued by former players for concussion including Thugmore and Lapandry.

Iturria is at his best right now...

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:59 pm**

Big game coming between Clermont and Toulouse this WE.

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:02 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:26 am
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:46 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:21 pm Penaud is off to UBB

Clermont are going to have to sort themselves...
Don’t know what is happening there (Jono Gibbs?) itused to be players from UBB going to Clermont, Lopez, Païva, Pelissié.
This season Bordeaux got Vili and Falatea from them, now Penaud
With maybe Radradra coming back, it looks like Marti wants a trophy before he gives the keys to the next prez.
Good answer

J'ai surtout regardé la qualité de l'effectif. Il y a aussi la rencontre avec le président Laurent Marti et le futur manager Yannick Bru, Le courant est passé de suite ! Je me suis retrouvé dans le projet qu'ils m'ont présenté. L'UBB développe également du jeu. Un jeu basé sur les trois-quarts. C'était un élément à prendre en considération, qui me correspond. Enfin, la signature de Thibault Giroud, le directeur de la performance de l'équipe de France, avec qui je m'entends très bien, a été un facteur déterminant. Il est très professionnel et à l'écoute des joueurs.
gagner des titres C'est ce qui est beau dans ce nouveau challenge. Il y a une page à écrire avec l'UBB.
Je n'ai jamais réellement eu d'approche concrète.avec Toulouse, j'ai signé à Bordeaux-Bègles et je ne regrette pas mon choix.»

Hope for his sake and the French team sake that he made the right choice. Bordeaux is going backwards right now, maybe not as bad as Clermont, but they are not where they should be.

Clermont has lost a lot of its financing since the football team is in first division unfortunately and can no longer compete to hold onto the best JIFF.

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm**

Just learned now from a valid source that Toulouse tried to get Penaud but the salary ask was too high.

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:24 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm Just learned now from a valid source that Toulouse tried to get Penaud but the salary ask was too high.

Considering their Buying spree the last few years I doubt they could pay "le mexicain" his Prod2 wages

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:24 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:24 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm Just learned now from a valid source that Toulouse tried to get Penaud but the salary ask was too high.
Considering their Buying spree the last few years I doubt they could pay "le mexicain" his Prod2 wages

More likely they would have found a way to circumvent the caps as they are already doing but it might have attracted too much attention.

Posted: **Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:07 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:24 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:24 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:18 pm Just learned now from a valid source that Toulouse tried to get Penaud but the salary ask was too high.
Considering their Buying spree the last few years I doubt they could pay "le mexicain" his Prod2 wages
More likely they would have found a way to circumvent the caps as they are already doing but it might have attracted too much attention.

It’s kind of funny because when you read/ listen his full interview he just said that toulouse didn’t really made him an offer, that he’s very close to Giroud and also his girlfriend preferred to live in Bordeaux than Toulouse or La Rochelle.

Posted: **Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:44 pm**

Racing playing better. No Russell. Coincidence?...........

And another stinker for Woki following his humbling by Macalou.

Posted: **Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:55 pm**

Watched Bordeaux tear apart Montpellier.

Haouas past his best really.

I quite like Lamotte. Young Bielle-Baret looking good, growing well. Jalibert rather good, Ntamack will need to wake up soon.

Posted: **Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:04 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:55 pm Watched Bordeaux tear apart Montpellier.

Haouas past his best really.

I quite like Lamotte. Young Bielle-Baret looking good, growing well. Jalibert rather good, Ntamack will need to wake up soon.

I don't think any of us ever rated Haouas. Just another criminal at Montpellier. Ntamack injured again.

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:10 am**

Pressure on Clermont tomorrow. They need to wake up, especially as Brive seems to be back.

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:12 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:04 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:55 pm Watched Bordeaux tear apart Montpellier.

Haouas past his best really.

I quite like Lamotte. Young Bielle-Baret looking good, growing well. Jalibert rather good, Ntamack will need to wake up soon.
I don't think any of us ever rated Haouas. Just another criminal at Montpellier. Ntamack injured again.

The fact that Haouas was a starter for France or that Atoniois our current number 1 shows the issues we have at THP.

I liked an U20 prop, but don't remember if he played THP or LHP. Mathis Perchaut I think is his name.

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:13 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:12 am The fact that Haouas was a starter for France or that Atoniois our current number 1 shows the issues we have at THP.

I liked an U20 prop, but don't remember if he played THP or LHP. Mathis Perchaut I think is his name.

Yes but I think we have to suck up the fact that at any one time, you are going to have a lack of depth in a position. For far too long it was at 9, 10 and 15 and whilst the best option may not be being selected at 10, at least there is hope.

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:33 pm**

Watching Clermont- Toulouse

Dumbhead Lavanini doing his usual no arms tackle.
Penaud showing why he can't play center as he doesn't know how to tackle.
Toulouse running through the middle with easy offloads...

Jaminet is the only below par player for Toulouse.

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:39 pm**

I know Clermont are depleted by injuries, but the technical basics aren't there...

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:09 pm**

Penaud's defense

Posted: **Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:53 pm**

Well, that made for sad viewing...

Clermont couldn't just get the basics rights...

Penalty kicks not finding touch
Skewed lineouts
Porous defense
Sideways attack
Poor decision making

Posted: **Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:11 pm**

Dreadful stuff. Clermont pumped by a 3rd string Toulouse. Too many players don't appear to even be trying. Penaud certainly seems disinterested now he is on his way out. Lose to USAP next week and the alarm bells will be sounding.

Meantime, I see that ultimate of spoofers, Volavola, is on his way out. Hard to think of a player in modern times who has masqueraded so badly as a professional rugby player.

Posted: **Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:52 pm**

Pas de jaloux

Posted: **Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:35 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:52 pm Pas de jaloux

Is Galthie paying attention?

Meantime, Woki and Penaud increasingly looking like worries on form.

Posted: **Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:04 pm**

As you know I’ve been Jalibert fan since day one, but the player of the month should be Camille Lopez.

Posted: **Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:29 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:04 pm As you know I’ve been Jalibert fan since day one, but the player of the month should be Camille Lopez.

Agree, he is carrying Bayonne.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:04 am**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:29 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:04 pm As you know I’ve been Jalibert fan since day one, but the player of the month should be Camille Lopez.
Agree, he is carrying Bayonne.

Amazing really. I honestly thought it was a bad signing by AB i.e. Lopez would just free load for some pension money. But no, he really is playing with more enthusiasm than I recall for years. Would be ironic if AB finish above ASM: what with Parra playing well at Paris too!

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:28 pm**

Danty out for at least 3 months (knee), Moefana in 13 I guess if Villiére returns, if not I read that Dumortier (LOU) is doing great right now.
Who else in 12? Vili maybe

Edit

Lol, I’ve beaten RR by 1h
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:28 pm Danty out for at least 3 months (knee), Moefana in 13 I guess if Villiére returns, if not I read that Dumortier (LOU) is doing great right now.
Who else in 12? Vili maybe

Edit

Lol, I’ve beaten RR by 1h
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

F**king hell. This is beginning to look bad at just the wrong time. Woki and Penaud completely out of form. Danty and Villere with injuries.

Posted: **Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:24 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:28 pm Danty out for at least 3 months (knee), Moefana in 13 I guess if Villiére returns, if not I read that Dumortier (LOU) is doing great right now.
Who else in 12? Vili maybe

Edit

Lol, I’ve beaten RR by 1h
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

Barrassi is developing nicely with Toulouse.
Fickou is a worry with Racing atm.

Tbh, I would love if all our players could get a good month off like Ramos carved out for himself. I see a number of tired men.

Posted: **Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:27 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:28 pm Danty out for at least 3 months (knee), Moefana in 13 I guess if Villiére returns, if not I read that Dumortier (LOU) is doing great right now.
Who else in 12? Vili maybe

Edit

Lol, I’ve beaten RR by 1h
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
F**king hell. This is beginning to look bad at just the wrong time. Woki and Penaud completely out of form. Danty and Villere with injuries.

We will need to manage the build up to the world cup if we don't want to finish on a limb.

Worse would be injuries for our props where depth is very shallow.

Posted: **Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:00 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:27 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:28 pm Danty out for at least 3 months (knee), Moefana in 13 I guess if Villiére returns, if not I read that Dumortier (LOU) is doing great right now.
Who else in 12? Vili maybe

Edit

Lol, I’ve beaten RR by 1h
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
F**king hell. This is beginning to look bad at just the wrong time. Woki and Penaud completely out of form. Danty and Villere with injuries.
We will need to manage the build up to the world cup if we don't want to finish on a limb.

Worse would be injuries for our props where depth is very shallow.

Looks like Woki and Penaud might be more unmotivated than out off form, we’ll see next month

True, props could be a big problem, as for Ramos do you think he did that in purpose?

Nah

Posted: **Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:32 pm**

Penaud is a shit defender, that has always been the case and when playing center against a team the caliber of Toulouse, it shows. But his attacking power remains.

I don't think Ramos did it on purpose. I was being facetious. But I think this is a welcome break for him and all our international players could do with a 4/5 weeks break.

Posted: **Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:58 pm**

Ramos, #metoo

Posted: **Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:30 pm**

Jalibert injured again. Couilloud out too

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:05 am**

We’ll know Monday if it’s only a little tear muscle (glute maybe) or the quadricep like last year

Now Chabal, WTF ? disgusted by all of them.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites ... de/1373274

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:27 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:05 am We’ll know Monday if it’s only a little tear muscle (glute maybe) or the quadricep like last year

Now Chabal, WTF ? disgusted by all of them.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites ... de/1373274

FFS. France just can't help itself with corruption. Living up to the worst stereotypes.

Talking of stereotypes, USAP 7-0 up at Michelin so decide to go down to 13 men with some hopeless discipline.

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:37 pm**

Baille is an outstanding scrumager. Young Duprat was being minced by Atonio, Baille comes in and the scrum doesn't move any more.

Dulin is really playing well.

The Toulouse subs are suffering.

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:42 pm**

Mmm... Toulouse scrum minced again. But La Rochelle started to push before introduction, there should have been a free kick against them. Instead a yellow against Toulouse...

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:52 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:37 pm Baille is an outstanding scrumager. Young Duprat was being minced by Atonio, Baille comes in and the scrum doesn't move any more.

Dulin is really playing well.

The Toulouse subs are suffering.

Not just a scrummager but a ball player too.

Mind you, LaR doing a sh*t job against 13. Fre sides continue to frustrate me in their inability to adapt and exploit the spaces when against fewer opponents.

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:53 pm**

Antonio limping off... France are going to have a lot of injuries for the 6N.

Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:54 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:52 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:37 pm Baille is an outstanding scrumager. Young Duprat was being minced by Atonio, Baille comes in and the scrum doesn't move any more.

Dulin is really playing well.

The Toulouse subs are suffering.
Not just a scrummager but a ball player too.

Yes, he is known for his mobility and ball playing skills but he does the basic well.

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