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lemonhead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:22 pm Fecked his ankle I think. Was in a boot afterwards

I imagine a boot is standard. Hopefully not as bad as feared. Don't really care if he makes the rest of the six nations, think we can cover him, but if it's something that has him out for months and touch and go for world cup

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:28 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:48 am And then Murray drops.

I think I understand the impression he butchered loads because the period around Hansen’s chance sees a couple of poor passes, him being held up and then him dropping over the line.

Had no issue with his play up to then and he was very unlucky rather than outright butchery.

For me he wasn’t great but the fact that he played considering the week he’s had is nothing short of a miracle and let’s just all hope that his father pulls through

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:30 pm

lemonhead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:22 pm Fecked his ankle I think. Was in a boot afterwards

I imagine a boot is standard. Hopefully not as bad as feared. Don't really care if he makes the rest of the six nations, think we can cover him, but if it's something that has him out for months and touch and go for world cup

Farrell in the post match interview stated he thought it wasn't good. Looked like he got it trapped under another Irish player making a tackle. Was in bad shape immediately.

Hope it won't be a long term thing. He could do with a months rest olid say. Again, Baird to the bench, more international mins!

Watching the replay here - Ross Byrne played out of his skin when he came on.

shabadoo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:36 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:30 pm

lemonhead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:22 pm Fecked his ankle I think. Was in a boot afterwards

I imagine a boot is standard. Hopefully not as bad as feared. Don't really care if he makes the rest of the six nations, think we can cover him, but if it's something that has him out for months and touch and go for world cup

Farrell in the post match interview stated he thought it wasn't good. Looked like he got it trapped under another Irish player making a tackle. Was in bad shape immediately.

Hope it won't be a long term thing. He could do with a months rest olid say. Again, Baird to the bench, more international mins!

I remember Leamy was going to be out for months after an ankle injury and played the following week (actually, think he was named but pulled out, wasn't a major injury anyway). These things aren't fully evident until the next or following day. Fingers crossed.

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:37 pm Watching the replay here - Ross Byrne played out of his skin when he came on.

Just started second half but that was my impression on first viewing.

Lads. We need to talk about Heaslip.

Offload from Doris on 43 mins!

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:52 pm Lads. We need to talk about Heaslip.

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:29 am Should really have scored after Sexton's break (after Antonio tackle) but scored off the scrum so no biggy.

I'm pretty sure Sexton would have got to the corner as well.

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:37 pm Watching the replay here - Ross Byrne played out of his skin when he came on.

Or did he???
https://twitter.com/ByCianaf/status/162 ... LNvEkEkfJw

A lot of wank in there. People are obsessed with someone who can do it all on their own off the bench rather than someone who just does the simple thing that needs to be done.

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:29 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:32 am What was going on with Sexton's non-tackle for the Penaud try?

Old age

Looks slightly less bad on replay.


Hansen might actually have got Penaud if Murray hadn't knocked him off balance.

Beirne's injury was really innocuous. Can't figure out how he did it.

paddyor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:37 pm Watching the replay here - Ross Byrne played out of his skin when he came on.

Or did he???
https://twitter.com/ByCianaf/status/162 ... LNvEkEkfJw

A lot of wank in there. People are obsessed with someone who can do it all on their own off the bench rather than someone who just does the simple thing that needs to be done.

That lad needs a girlfriend

paddyor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:37 pm Watching the replay here - Ross Byrne played out of his skin when he came on.

Or did he???
https://twitter.com/ByCianaf/status/162 ... LNvEkEkfJw

A lot of wank in there. People are obsessed with someone who can do it all on their own off the bench rather than someone who just does the simple thing that needs to be done.

That's fairly obsessed.

A lot made of McCloskey being off his feet t but he definitely got hands on the ball on his feet and would have come away with ball but for the holding on. The fact he went to his knees before Barnes whistled is immaterial.

Penalty for Murray hit in the air was harsh.

Not full turning point but Lowe's banana kick into touch and then Keenan's 50/22 was probably the start of the end for France after they had more of the play and chances in the opening 15 mins.

Ringrose's try was superb. Just keeps getting better as you watch the patience throughout.

Not sure why I thought Hansen was average. Had a pretty good game.

As I posted on the other thread, ridiculous amount of metres run by both sides. Our total was up there with what we might have had in a record win over Italy in the past but France nearly matched it.

Serious contrast between the two games yesterday, particularly setpiece/penalties. 42 setpieces and 28 penalties in Murrayfield. 26 setpieces and 15 penalties in Lansdowne. Obviously penalties feed lineouts but still, that's a mad difference.

The Welsh losing their shit in the replies.

https://twitter.com/walesrugby/status/1 ... 6Wd6yVyrYw

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:52 pm Lads. We need to talk about Heaslip.

I said the same thing yesterday

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:59 pm

paddyor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:37 pm Watching the replay here - Ross Byrne played out of his skin when he came on.

Or did he???
https://twitter.com/ByCianaf/status/162 ... LNvEkEkfJw

A lot of wank in there. People are obsessed with someone who can do it all on their own off the bench rather than someone who just does the simple thing that needs to be done.

That's fairly obsessed.

What a weirdo

Conspicuous wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:01 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:59 pm

paddyor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 pm
Or did he???
https://twitter.com/ByCianaf/status/162 ... LNvEkEkfJw

A lot of wank in there. People are obsessed with someone who can do it all on their own off the bench rather than someone who just does the simple thing that needs to be done.

That's fairly obsessed.

What a weirdo

I thought he played well when he came on. Nothing flash but a few nice kicks and in general didn't shit the bed.

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pm Ringrose's try was superb. Just keeps getting better as you watch the patience throughout.

Not sure why I thought Hansen was average. Had a pretty good game.

Hansen had some good play and looked busy, but he’s still a bit lightweight and he isn’t really getting involved as the 2nd playmaker that he was bringing when he first came in.

He’s doing ok, but he’s not doing anything that JOB, or Baloucoune, or Larmour or maybe even Earls couldn’t do, and arguably those others also bing some extra to their game, which Hansen isn’t really.

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:20 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pm Ringrose's try was superb. Just keeps getting better as you watch the patience throughout.

Not sure why I thought Hansen was average. Had a pretty good game.

Hansen had some good play and looked busy, but he’s still a bit lightweight and he isn’t really getting involved as the 2nd playmaker that he was bringing when he first came in.

He’s doing ok, but he’s not doing anything that JOB, or Baloucoune, or Larmour or maybe even Earls couldn’t do, and arguably those others also bing some extra to their game, which Hansen isn’t really.

That was my impression on first viewing. I'm not quite there after a second viewing. There were bits and pieces he did that others wouldn't have but I'm not going to argue that the others wouldn't bring something different that might be more useful.

Put it this way, you wouldn't drop him based on his performance.

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:20 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pm Ringrose's try was superb. Just keeps getting better as you watch the patience throughout.

Not sure why I thought Hansen was average. Had a pretty good game.

Hansen had some good play and looked busy, but he’s still a bit lightweight and he isn’t really getting involved as the 2nd playmaker that he was bringing when he first came in.

He’s doing ok, but he’s not doing anything that JOB, or Baloucoune, or Larmour or maybe even Earls couldn’t do, and arguably those others also bing some extra to their game, which Hansen isn’t really.

He had 14 passes yesterday- twice the centre pairing combined. Tied Ringrose for best in defenders beaten so yeah you’re somewhat overstating things I’m afraid.

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:04 pm

Conspicuous wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:01 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:59 pm

That's fairly obsessed.

What a weirdo

I thought he played well when he came on. Nothing flash but a few nice kicks and in general didn't shit the bed.

I think this is the key to all our subs/reserves coming in now. Where there’s an injury, the player that has come in pretty much knows how to do the job of the player they’re replacing. Herring, Bealham, Murray, Byrne, McCloskey have all stepped into the role of the 1st choice player with minimal disruption. For each one, the first choice player probably has something extra that the sub doesn’t, but it’s nice-to-have things. Bealham isn’t going to throw 30m skip passes, or hand off an All Black 2nd row into the ground, but he holds the scrum up, makes tackles, and provides that tip-pass link next to the ruck.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:32 am What was going on with Sexton's non-tackle for the Penaud try?

Think he just went high on Jelonche to try and make the tackle while also stopping the offload, when in hindsight he should have just focused on bringing the man down.

TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:33 pm

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:20 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pm Ringrose's try was superb. Just keeps getting better as you watch the patience throughout.

Not sure why I thought Hansen was average. Had a pretty good game.

Hansen had some good play and looked busy, but he’s still a bit lightweight and he isn’t really getting involved as the 2nd playmaker that he was bringing when he first came in.

He’s doing ok, but he’s not doing anything that JOB, or Baloucoune, or Larmour or maybe even Earls couldn’t do, and arguably those others also bing some extra to their game, which Hansen isn’t really.

He had 14 passes yesterday- twice the centre pairing combined. Tied Ringrose for best in defenders beaten so yeah you’re somewhat overstating things I’m afraid.

Also ignoring that he ties defenders up, creating space elsewhere.

Who is he meant to be getting dropped for?

Italy very disappointing today.

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:39 pm Italy very disappointing today.

They’ve never beaten England and rarely put up much of a threat , certainly not at Twickenham

Conspicuous wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:48 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:39 pm Italy very disappointing today.

They’ve never beaten England and rarely put up much of a threat , certainly not at Twickenham

Ah, they've been better in Twickenham in the past, certainly with floodgates not opening until second half.

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:39 pm Italy very disappointing today.

Every year, especially in Twickenham, italy just completely disappear against England. Even that time they got a bit sneaky at the rucks, they shipped 50 points.

England and Twickenham are Italys kryptonite, they cant handle it

And next up for England is shithouse Wales, they will be world cup favourites in two weeks time

They even had a nice little start to the 2nd half then give up the PT and YC

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:16 pm They even had a nice little start to the 2nd half then give up the PT and YC

Yep. Just don't have the forwards anymore and losing Lamaro really didn't help

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:19 pm

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:16 pm They even had a nice little start to the 2nd half then give up the PT and YC

Yep. Just don't have the forwards anymore and losing Lamaro really didn't help

Negri looks handy.

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:35 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:19 pm

dob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:16 pm They even had a nice little start to the 2nd half then give up the PT and YC

Yep. Just don't have the forwards anymore and losing Lamaro really didn't help

Negri looks handy.

Their backrowers are handy. They just don't have the bigger guys to absorb England's physicality.

Italy this half have at least been better and a bit more like I expected them to be in the first half.

Winning the half at the moment.