That is somehow very depressing. He naturally assumes there will be crowds of adoring fans wherever he goes.
The depressing thing is that he's not wrong.
Actually he is, evidence coming to light that Trump and his goons are "pretending" public concerts etc are Trump rallies. Latest one is a packed Florida rock concert that they are spinning as a Trump rally. It really is pathetic.
That is somehow very depressing. He naturally assumes there will be crowds of adoring fans wherever he goes.
The depressing thing is that he's not wrong.
Actually he is, evidence coming to light that Trump and his goons are "pretending" public concerts etc are Trump rallies. Latest one is a packed Florida rock concert that they are spinning as a Trump rally. It really is pathetic.
Not really my point. The MAGA crowd (cultists) most certainly are 100% behind their man. And there are still a lot of them. It’s easy to forget that looking at US publicity from a distance.
Actually he is, evidence coming to light that Trump and his goons are "pretending" public concerts etc are Trump rallies. Latest one is a packed Florida rock concert that they are spinning as a Trump rally. It really is pathetic.
Not really my point. The MAGA crowd (cultists) most certainly are 100% behind their man. And there are still a lot of them. It’s easy to forget that looking at US publicity from a distance.
It's interesting to observe the dedication (for want of a better word) followers have for their chosen one. It's not just Trump and the MAGA crowd although they are probably the most clearly defined movement we've seen in our Western 'democratic' theatre... it wouldn't matter how much factual evidence you provided, their support is unwavering and probably only strengthened by what those of us outside the bubble see as reputational damage, like court cases and guilty verdicts. The UK has its Brexiteers for a parallel... and opposition to their respective stances only serves to further entrench their views.
Actually he is, evidence coming to light that Trump and his goons are "pretending" public concerts etc are Trump rallies. Latest one is a packed Florida rock concert that they are spinning as a Trump rally. It really is pathetic.
Not really my point. The MAGA crowd (cultists) most certainly are 100% behind their man. And there are still a lot of them. It’s easy to forget that looking at US publicity from a distance.
It's interesting to observe the dedication (for want of a better word) followers have for their chosen one. It's not just Trump and the MAGA crowd although they are probably the most clearly defined movement we've seen in our Western 'democratic' theatre... it wouldn't matter how much factual evidence you provided, their support is unwavering and probably only strengthened by what those of us outside the bubble see as reputational damage, like court cases and guilty verdicts. The UK has its Brexiteers for a parallel... and opposition to their respective stances only serves to further entrench their views.
And a lot of it is the same age group as the Brexiters. I was in the US a week ago and Grandma (not mine) who had retired on a daily diet of Fox News was busy informing me that Trump was the Messiah and would get the USA back to where it was.
But it is a chunk more complex than that. The red states are staying red regardless so it does come down to the few swing states. One thing I noticed was inflation has hit a lot of basics hard (much like the rest of the world) so even though Biden has been a pretty good President in all sorts of ways, done more to getting back manufacturing to the US than any President in 50 years, record low unemployment etc, the vibes aren’t there.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:10 am
by Guy Smiley
Flockwitt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:51 am
One thing I noticed was inflation has hit a lot of basics hard (much like the rest of the world) so even though Biden has been a pretty good President in all sorts of ways, done more to getting back manufacturing to the US than any President in 50 years, record low unemployment etc, the vibes aren’t there.
It's a common theme, isn't it? Inflation and the appeal of the conservative side to 'fix it'.
Flockwitt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:51 am
One thing I noticed was inflation has hit a lot of basics hard (much like the rest of the world) so even though Biden has been a pretty good President in all sorts of ways, done more to getting back manufacturing to the US than any President in 50 years, record low unemployment etc, the vibes aren’t there.
It's a common theme, isn't it? Inflation and the appeal of the conservative side to 'fix it'.
Grumpy old farts of our generation of which there are more and more who as a general trend vote more conservatively as they get older for whatever reason.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
by David in Gwent
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:01 am
by inactionman
Apparently Trump hasn't paid the £300k costs he was due to pay to Steele/Orbis.
Appreciate it's easy to miss the small things when you've got a lot going on - I'm sure the cheque is in the post.
Flockwitt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:10 am
Not really my point. The MAGA crowd (cultists) most certainly are 100% behind their man. And there are still a lot of them. It’s easy to forget that looking at US publicity from a distance.
It's interesting to observe the dedication (for want of a better word) followers have for their chosen one. It's not just Trump and the MAGA crowd although they are probably the most clearly defined movement we've seen in our Western 'democratic' theatre... it wouldn't matter how much factual evidence you provided, their support is unwavering and probably only strengthened by what those of us outside the bubble see as reputational damage, like court cases and guilty verdicts. The UK has its Brexiteers for a parallel... and opposition to their respective stances only serves to further entrench their views.
And a lot of it is the same age group as the Brexiters. I was in the US a week ago and Grandma (not mine) who had retired on a daily diet of Fox News was busy informing me that Trump was the Messiah and would get the USA back to where it was.
But it is a chunk more complex than that. The red states are staying red regardless so it does come down to the few swing states. One thing I noticed was inflation has hit a lot of basics hard (much like the rest of the world) so even though Biden has been a pretty good President in all sorts of ways, done more to getting back manufacturing to the US than any President in 50 years, record low unemployment etc, the vibes aren’t there.
But the bulk of that addition was simply part of a bounce back from the 2020 pandemic recession. In the 16 months since October 2022, the US economy actually has only added 34,000 manufacturing jobs. In the month of February, factory payrolls actually dropped — by 5,000.
There’s also a politically important soft spot in Biden’s manufacturing pitch, as I wrote in this Bloomberg Big Take. In three key industrial swing states (Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) a collective 39,000 fewer people are working in manufacturing than five years ago.
Tell you what mate, let’s line up falsehoods shall we. You go first and we can start at an index of 100 bits of massive bullshit by Orangetits to one of Sleepy Joe’s then work it up by extra zeros when you get a bit tired.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:48 am
by David in Gwent
TedMaul wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:33 am
Tell you what mate, let’s line up falsehoods shall we. You go first and we can start at an index of 100 bits of massive bullshit by Orangetits to one of Sleepy Joe’s then work it up by extra zeros when you get a bit tired.
My one and only falsehood - Joe Biden is a good President.
Apparently he also posted another post about a massive crowd that came to see him in Florida and all the MAGA guys kept retweeting it to show how massively popular Trump is and that the election is in the bag. Turns out the crowd in the photo was for a big rock concert, he was not even there
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:06 pm
by Niegs
Now if only he'd take his hardcore devotees somewhere...
TedMaul wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:33 am
Tell you what mate, let’s line up falsehoods shall we. You go first and we can start at an index of 100 bits of massive bullshit by Orangetits to one of Sleepy Joe’s then work it up by extra zeros when you get a bit tired.
My one and only falsehood - Joe Biden is a good President.
Your turn to show the lies and misinformation Biden is presenting in torrents, btw how do you explain your Messiah's complete meltdown on social media over the last few nights. He's posting like a teen chick who couldn't get tickets to the latest boy band.
It's interesting to observe the dedication (for want of a better word) followers have for their chosen one. It's not just Trump and the MAGA crowd although they are probably the most clearly defined movement we've seen in our Western 'democratic' theatre... it wouldn't matter how much factual evidence you provided, their support is unwavering and probably only strengthened by what those of us outside the bubble see as reputational damage, like court cases and guilty verdicts. The UK has its Brexiteers for a parallel... and opposition to their respective stances only serves to further entrench their views.
And a lot of it is the same age group as the Brexiters. I was in the US a week ago and Grandma (not mine) who had retired on a daily diet of Fox News was busy informing me that Trump was the Messiah and would get the USA back to where it was.
But it is a chunk more complex than that. The red states are staying red regardless so it does come down to the few swing states. One thing I noticed was inflation has hit a lot of basics hard (much like the rest of the world) so even though Biden has been a pretty good President in all sorts of ways, done more to getting back manufacturing to the US than any President in 50 years, record low unemployment etc, the vibes aren’t there.
But the bulk of that addition was simply part of a bounce back from the 2020 pandemic recession. In the 16 months since October 2022, the US economy actually has only added 34,000 manufacturing jobs. In the month of February, factory payrolls actually dropped — by 5,000.
There’s also a politically important soft spot in Biden’s manufacturing pitch, as I wrote in this Bloomberg Big Take. In three key industrial swing states (Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) a collective 39,000 fewer people are working in manufacturing than five years ago.
Take a moment. Like a few seconds. To see how many new factories have gone in with the inflation reduction act. That will ensure the low run employment rates are maintained for at least 2 presidential cycles.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:26 pm
by Flockwitt
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Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:27 pm
by Flockwitt
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Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:18 pm
by Guy Smiley
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
Basically, yes, the laptop is his.
The data on it is so corrupted with various timelines that don't match up, none of it is admissable in court..
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
Basically, yes, the laptop is his.
The data on it is so corrupted with various timelines that don't match up, none of it is admissable in court..
By which you clearly mean that DAC is talking through his arse. Ta
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
Basically, yes, the laptop is his.
The data on it is so corrupted with various timelines that don't match up, none of it is admissable in court..
By which you clearly mean that DAC is talking through his arse. Ta
Well... does he? A classic case of a reply not providing an answer.
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
You really don't have an idea, do you, but feel free to pontificate on shit you know nothing about because "orange man bad"
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
You really don't have an idea, do you, but feel free to pontificate on shit you know nothing about because "orange man bad"
Well, no I don't know about Hunter Biden which is why I'm asking you directly about what is going on.
I'm no fan of the US political system at all, regardless of side... but I do think Trump is a nightmare.
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:57 am
How do you guys reconcile with yourself now that the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it's contents, is now proven to be true, was not "Russian disinformation" and that you were barefaced lied to by just about everyone in authority? How are you dealing with that?
I'm not as addicted to following US political news as some of you, although it does fill some of my media feeds... so I haven't seen anything pop up related to what you're on about. I don't know what you're referring to here... do you have a link to any breaking news or is this an internet rumour like the one about Biden shitting his pants that the MAGA crew were so keen to believe and share?
Basically, yes, the laptop is his.
The data on it is so corrupted with various timelines that don't match up, none of it is admissable in court..
That's hardly the point though is it. Now you're saying it's his and is corrupted, 4 years ago you dismissed it out of hand as "Russian Disinformation"
Talk about Cognitive dissonance.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:49 am
by TB63
Please feel free to point out where I said that..
I'll wait....
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:13 am
by David in Gwent
Please try and avoid gaslighting people.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:37 am
by TB63
Just asking you to highlight where I said it was Russian disinformation, as you accused me of..
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:04 am
by Biffer
David in Gwent wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:13 am
Please try and avoid gaslighting people.
The lack of any self awareness here is hilarious.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:22 am
by David in Gwent
TB63 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:19 pm
And the clinically deranged orange shitgibbon says..
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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4h
So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn’t, “Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election.” This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately
So he wasn't clinically deranged then? This is exactly what happened.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:30 am
by TB63
Battery
Boat
Shark
Electrocution
Noise off windmills gives you cancer..
They perform abortions after birth..
Yup, sane as....
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:04 am
by Rhubarb & Custard
TB63 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:30 am
Battery
Boat
Shark
Electrocution
