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Colville is a died in the wool Tory. When even those guys are calling it out. Oh dear!

It's mad that more Tories aren't. They're exacerbating a situation that could lead to them being unelectable in 20 years time.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:33 pm

Colville is a died in the wool Tory. When even those guys are calling it out. Oh dear!

He co-wrote the 2019 manifesto and his party have been forcefeeding the housing market PEDs for years (also Labour). He can hardly have cause for complaint when it works.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:43 pm

As much as he is right about the utter lack of help for the worst off (What. A. Surprise) who is spending £20k on solar panels alone? I got a full roof and batteries for under half that.

The fact that the priority should be legislated to the best standard as

Insulation
Energy Efficiency
Solar and storage
Not fucking hydrogen heating pipedreams using grey/black hydrogen

is neither here nor there.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:30 pm It's mad that more Tories aren't. They're exacerbating a situation that could lead to them being unelectable in 20 years time.

I see what you did there.

You could make it 100 and it still wouldn't be wrong.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:49 pm Insulation
Energy Efficiency
Solar and storage
Not fucking hydrogen heating pipedreams using grey/black hydrogen

is neither here nor there.

I might quibble about number 3, but 1 & 2 are spot on.

What's the latest number of MW that could be saved if all lights were converted to LEDs ? Just give people the fucking things, & stop arsing around.

There's nothing stopping the UK from enforcing even higher energy efficiency standards than the EU; but instead the battle of Brexit was pissing & moaning about how many more Watts the Brexiteers vacuum clearers would have

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:35 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:49 pm Insulation
Energy Efficiency
Solar and storage
Not fucking hydrogen heating pipedreams using grey/black hydrogen

is neither here nor there.

I might quibble about number 3, but 1 & 2 are spot on.

What's the latest number of MW that could be saved if all lights were converted to LEDs ? Just give people the fucking things, & stop arsing around.

There's nothing stopping the UK from enforcing even higher energy efficiency standards than the EU; but instead the battle of Brexit was pissing & moaning about how many more Watts the Brexiteers vacuum clearers would have

I think we know what's stopping the enforcement of higher standards...or rather who.

Chrisst!! Even I'm too old to remember these bad days

This chart from the Office for Budget Responsibility shows how real household disposable incomes per person are set for the largest fall in a single financial year since records began in 1956-57, down 2.2% in 2022-23.

According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, the tax burden - taxation as a proportion of GDP - is now forecast to rise to levels last seen when Clement Attlee was prime minister even faster than previously expected. It is now due to peak at 36.3% (on the national accounts taxes measure) in 2025-26.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:03 pm Chrisst!! Even I'm too old to remember these bad days

This chart from the Office for Budget Responsibility shows how real household disposable incomes per person are set for the largest fall in a single financial year since records began in 1956-57, down 2.2% in 2022-23.

According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, the tax burden - taxation as a proportion of GDP - is now forecast to rise to levels last seen when Clement Attlee was prime minister even faster than previously expected. It is now due to peak at 36.3% (on the national accounts taxes measure) in 2025-26.

Well done to the Tories

Achieving in a mere 12 years, what it took the a World War, & subsequent reconstruction to previously achieve.

So this income tax cut is due in 2024? Remind me again when is the next General Election due?

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:41 pm So this income tax cut is due in 2024? Remind me again when is the next General Election due?

Sticking £50bn in the bank for election bribes, too.

Rishi Sunak is so wealthy he's never used contactless.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:15 pm It's extraordinary they are somewhat riding out the Ukraine situation. There isn't even a broken line between Russia and Boris. It's a big blocky fucking red one. I wonder if it's the straight up noise and brazenness of the internet makes it difficult to get shit to stick. Look at Aaron Banks all over the internet at the moment crapping on about the Iranian women and not a care in the world. It's the impunity with which they act that astonishes me.

The tick is to keep flailing away, chucking shit pies in all directions,and keep on the move. Any pause which might afford time/space for an audience to reflect/consider, is to be avoided. This is Boris in action.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:41 pm So this income tax cut is due in 2024? Remind me again when is the next General Election due?

Gordon's 10p rate still holding a slim lead but surprise surprise the personal allowance is being frozen for 4+ years to compensate.

Crafty pluckers.

Sunak's main message yesterday

And at least one sociopathic cunt thought it was amusing when he mentioned what was happening in Ukraine

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am

Turns out, that outside of the UK, words do have consequences.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:00 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am

Turns out, that outside of the UK, words do have consequences.

Kind of shows part of the robustness of the UK state (UK civil bodies inertia or intransigence) that we have still been useful regardless of the moron representing us.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:00 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am

Turns out, that outside of the UK, words do have consequences.

Johnny-no-mates!

To be slightly fair, a few of them seem to be standing around like lemons.

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:18 am To be slightly fair, a few of them seem to be standing around like lemons.

To be even fairer, better to be a lemon than an utter fucking cunt.

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:42 am

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:18 am To be slightly fair, a few of them seem to be standing around like lemons.

To be even fairer, better to be a lemon than an utter fucking cunt.

A least he wasn't just left alone with the pot plants to talk to!

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:48 am

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:42 am

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:18 am To be slightly fair, a few of them seem to be standing around like lemons.

To be even fairer, better to be a lemon than an utter fucking cunt.

A least he wasn't just left alone with the pot plants to talk to!

That's later today presumably

Drip, drip, drip

Michael Gove was secretly involved in the process through which a PPE company linked to the Tory peer Michelle Mone secured huge government contracts, according to newly released documents that show private emails being used for government business.

The correspondence threatens to embroil Gove in the deepening controversy surrounding PPE Medpro, the company awarded government contracts worth £203m after it was referred to the “high-priority lane” for well connected companies.

They will also add to the growing scepticism over Lady Mone’s repeated insistence that she was not involved with the company, and cast further doubt on statements made on her behalf by her lawyers. Her relationship to PPE Medpro is under investigation by the House of Lords commissioner for standards.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... d-firms

There's some real narratives coming out of these videos. It's amazing the imagination of some people. There's a clip where he shakes hands with Biden whilst they're all milling around, have a few words and then Biden goes on to shake someone elses hand, whilst Boris just does his dazed and confused routine a bit more.

Apparently, in the head of some people, Biden has viciously told him off and now Boris is skulking off ashamed. How do they reach these narratives? I mean for one thing, it's clear that Boris is completely fucking shameless.

I hate the tories as much as anyone right now, but the moment you start simply making shit up, you no longer become worth listening to.

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:57 am There's some real narratives coming out of these videos. It's amazing the imagination of some people. There's a clip where he shakes hands with Biden whilst they're all milling around, have a few words and then Biden goes on to shake someone elses hand, whilst Boris just does his dazed and confused routine a bit more.

Apparently, in the head of some people, Biden has viciously told him off and now Boris is skulking off ashamed. How do they reach these narratives? I mean for one thing, it's clear that Boris is completely fucking shameless.

I hate the tories as much as anyone right now, but the moment you start simply making shit up, you no longer become worth listening to.

Also, we've all been to conferences/large meetings etc, I'm sure we've all stood looking a bit gormless/billy no mates for a bit as people introduce themselves before.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:02 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:57 am There's some real narratives coming out of these videos. It's amazing the imagination of some people. There's a clip where he shakes hands with Biden whilst they're all milling around, have a few words and then Biden goes on to shake someone elses hand, whilst Boris just does his dazed and confused routine a bit more.

Apparently, in the head of some people, Biden has viciously told him off and now Boris is skulking off ashamed. How do they reach these narratives? I mean for one thing, it's clear that Boris is completely fucking shameless.

I hate the tories as much as anyone right now, but the moment you start simply making shit up, you no longer become worth listening to.

Also, we've all been to conferences/large meetings etc, I'm sure we've all stood looking a bit gormless/billy no mates for a bit as people introduce themselves before.

Was thinking the same thing, he does look particularly gormless, but like I said, there's a fair few that are obviously just a bit confused as to what they're supposed to be doing.

I'd love for the whole lot of them to be properly tried for corruption etc and end up behind bars stripped of assets etc, and there's enough massively shitty stuff to stick them with, without "Ha ha, no ones talking to him." being the biggest thing you need to worry about. It's a distraction from the actually shitty stuff they've done.

Just popped in to say that the Good Law Project has lost again. In the Court of Appeal this time, trying to get their late service judgment overturned.

A day’s hearing in the Court of Appeal (GLP instructing a silk plus junior) doesn’t come cheap, what with their costs + gov costs. What twat would give money to these clowns?

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:05 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:02 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:57 am There's some real narratives coming out of these videos. It's amazing the imagination of some people. There's a clip where he shakes hands with Biden whilst they're all milling around, have a few words and then Biden goes on to shake someone elses hand, whilst Boris just does his dazed and confused routine a bit more.

Apparently, in the head of some people, Biden has viciously told him off and now Boris is skulking off ashamed. How do they reach these narratives? I mean for one thing, it's clear that Boris is completely fucking shameless.

I hate the tories as much as anyone right now, but the moment you start simply making shit up, you no longer become worth listening to.

Also, we've all been to conferences/large meetings etc, I'm sure we've all stood looking a bit gormless/billy no mates for a bit as people introduce themselves before.

Was thinking the same thing, he does look particularly gormless, but like I said, there's a fair few that are obviously just a bit confused as to what they're supposed to be doing.

I'd love for the whole lot of them to be properly tried for corruption etc and end up behind bars stripped of assets etc, and there's enough massively shitty stuff to stick them with, without "Ha ha, no ones talking to him." being the biggest thing you need to worry about. It's a distraction from the actually shitty stuff they've done.

And there is no lack of shitty stuff.

Just watchedthe CEO of P&O at the Commons.
He needs to be sacked and he really is a total cock womble.

Apparently the ships were tobe manned by Ukrainians and Russians....

ooops

Plim wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:18 pm Just popped in to say that the Good Law Project has lost again. In the Court of Appeal this time, trying to get their late service judgment overturned.

A day’s hearing in the Court of Appeal (GLP instructing a silk plus junior) doesn’t come cheap, what with their costs + gov costs. What twat would give money to these clowns?

Some more detail from GLP here

In June, we explained that we were appealing the High Court’s decision that – due to a mistake by our external solicitors – our case about the award of contracts to Pharmaceuticals Direct Limited could not proceed. Today, a split Court of Appeal has rejected our appeal, with one judge for us and two against.

Our external solicitors emailed the claim form that commences proceedings directly to the Government lawyers working on the case, as they had been asked to do, but failed to send it to a generic “new proceedings” email address by way of formal “service”, as had also been requested. The Government’s lawyers confirmed receipt of the papers almost immediately after receiving them but did not flag that the “new proceedings” email had not been copied until one day after the deadline for service.

This mistake had no practical consequences for the Government’s ability to prepare a defence, since their solicitors were aware of the claim well before the deadline. However, two of the Court of Appeal judges hearing the case have found that it should nonetheless prevent the claim from being pursued.

The dissenting Judge in this case has given a forthright judgment, observing that the mistake ‘did not have (and was never likely to have) any practical consequences whatsoever‘ and:

“If service is not to be validated retrospectively in such circumstances, form really has triumphed over substance and litigation has become a game of forfeits: the overriding objective, to deal with cases justly, has itself been overridden.”

We agree, which is why we will seek permission to appeal to the Supreme Court.

Decisions like this have real consequences. A company with connections to Ministers was paid almost double the going rate for facemasks, even though Government had been offered cheaper alternatives. If the claim can’t be heard, the public may never know why.

If this decision is overturned by the Supreme Court, then we will have the opportunity to pursue this important issue. If the appeal fails, then it is our expectation that our external solicitors will meet all the costs wasted by the error, both our costs and the costs we will incur to the Government, including of those appeals.

We employ the best lawyers available, but lawyers are human and mistakes do happen. We continue to instruct Bindmans in this and other cases – and to be entirely confident we are right to do so.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:00 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am

Turns out, that outside of the UK, words do have consequences.

I’m about to start going to overseas trade shows again. I work for. UK national lab, so we’re representing UK in many ways, working with others like DIT. After two or three years of alienating other countries, I’m really not sure what the reception will be like.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:47 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:00 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am

Turns out, that outside of the UK, words do have consequences.

I’m about to start going to overseas trade shows again. I work for. UK national lab, so we’re representing UK in many ways, working with others like DIT. After two or three years of alienating other countries, I’m really not sure what the reception will be like.

Other experiences may differ but honestly what I see is no one gives a shit. What happens here isn't front page news anywhere but Ireland and most firms will be queuing up like grinning monkeys at Sheremetyevo for business within a couple of years.

Bindmans PI providers are probably a bit cross...

Still, could be worse, it's not like it's £4.7bn or anything, what twat would let that slide out the door?

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:50 pm Bindmans PI providers are probably a bit cross...

Still, could be worse, it's not like it's £4.7bn or anything, what twat would let that slide out the door?

That’s assuming the facts allow for a PI claim. Otherwise GLP will be footing the bill, possibly after some further expense of arbitration with the insurers or maybe further litigation.

Plim wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:02 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:50 pm Bindmans PI providers are probably a bit cross...

Still, could be worse, it's not like it's £4.7bn or anything, what twat would let that slide out the door?

That’s assuming the facts allow for a PI claim. Otherwise GLP will be footing the bill, possibly after some further expense of arbitration with the insurers or maybe further litigation.

I'd say if PI doesn't cover it, then Bindmans are on the hook if they cocked it up, and their Office Account takes a bashing.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:08 pm

Plim wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:02 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:50 pm Bindmans PI providers are probably a bit cross...

Still, could be worse, it's not like it's £4.7bn or anything, what twat would let that slide out the door?

That’s assuming the facts allow for a PI claim. Otherwise GLP will be footing the bill, possibly after some further expense of arbitration with the insurers or maybe further litigation.

I'd say if PI doesn't cover it, then Bindmans are on the hook if they cocked it up, and their Office Account takes a bashing.

Yes, that is the most likely outcome absent a PI claim. Still depends on the facts though.

A member of No 10 staff was barred from involvement in the 2019 Tory general election campaign after being accused of sexually assaulting a woman at the Conservatives’ annual conference, POLITICO reports.

The individual, who has not been named, was accused of groping a woman at an event attended by the prime minister at the Tory party conference on 30 September 2019.

Conservative Party Campaign Headquarters (CCHQ) said the existence of the allegation was flagged to No 10 during the vetting process but was not deemed a reason to block the appointment. The individual has strongly denied the allegation.

An investigation launched by CCHQ ruled that the complaint could not be upheld. Despite this, POLITICO reports that senior Tory figures decided that the accusation warranted barring the individual from involvement in the upcoming general election campaign, citing someone familiar with the case.

https://www.politico.eu/article/cons ... plaint/