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SaintK wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:47 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:33 pm
SaintK wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pm
You'll be putting a few bob on Saracens then?


Depends on the odds. No crowds. Leinster might be a bit underdone.

It wouldn't be a huge shock if Saracens won.
You checked out Leinster's home record in Europe?


Why I mentioned no crowds. This season, there is no normal.
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Fazlet having a shocker
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That's beautiful from Gopperth.

Not sure that's how George intended the lineout to go.
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Thats a red
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That is a shocker, he is getting a month off for that at least
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Christ, that was shocking
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Red! That's horrific.
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What a cünt. No surprise.
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He deserves the longest ban possible for that, absolutely no mitigation.
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Replay makes it look even worse. It's a running clothesline.

At least Atkinson's conscious .
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:06 pm Replay makes it look even worse. It's a running clothesline.

At least Atkinson's conscious .
its verging on assault it was that bad
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:06 pm Replay makes it look even worse. It's a running clothesline.

At least Atkinson's conscious .
Good to hear, had to leave just after the card was shown
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Slick wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:10 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:06 pm Replay makes it look even worse. It's a running clothesline.

At least Atkinson's conscious .
Good to hear, had to leave just after the card was shown
He ended up walking off under his own steam, thankfully.
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ASMO wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:08 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:06 pm Replay makes it look even worse. It's a running clothesline.

At least Atkinson's conscious .
its verging on assault it was that bad
Yeah, I'm not sure what the max ban is, but he's bloody earned it.
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:grin:

That was nice. Willis the younger gets on the board.
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https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regula ... -1?lang=en

Max 52 weeks, top end 10+ weeks, Farrell deserves at least the 10+.
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ASMO wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:22 pm https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regula ... -1?lang=en

Max 52 weeks, top end 10 weeks, Farrell deserves at least the 10.
What’s the betting he won’t get it?
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Punter15 wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:25 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:22 pm https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regula ... -1?lang=en

Max 52 weeks, top end 10 weeks, Farrell deserves at least the 10.
What’s the betting he won’t get it?
It would be an absolute travesty if he didn't.
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20 to send a message.

Wasps have been gritty as fuck this game. Our defensive attitude and appetite has transformed under Blackett.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:27 pm 20 to send a message.

Wasps have been gritty as fuck this game. Our defensive attitude and appetite has transformed under Blackett.
to be fair Saracens were dire, i mean really dire, they are going to get smashed by Leinster
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ASMO wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:29 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:27 pm 20 to send a message.

Wasps have been gritty as fuck this game. Our defensive attitude and appetite has transformed under Blackett.
to be fair Saracens were dire, i mean really dire, they are going to get smashed by Leinster
True, but on paper this should have been very one -sided even allowing for a dip in performance from the home team.

Denied them even a LBP :D
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ASMO wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:29 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:27 pm 20 to send a message.

Wasps have been gritty as fuck this game. Our defensive attitude and appetite has transformed under Blackett.
to be fair Saracens were dire, i mean really dire, they are going to get smashed by Leinster
They were, but this was a Wasps 2nd XV, Sarries absolutely dominated the scrum too.
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Our defence and attitude are completely transformed under Blackett. Looks to be doing a superb job.
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That was dreadful by Farrell.

Wasps player slightly dipped but that is not much of excuse. Saracens top payers all had stinkers today - never seen Itoje so quiet.
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dallaglio looking like bill goldberg lol
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Amazing NFL style quick throw from Marchant, covered more than half the width of the pitch.
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Terrible from Saracens today. If it wasn't for watching Quins lose again it might have ruined my day.
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No wonder Quins have gone so soft, they're living rent free in your head.

Gustard needs to start threatening players careers at the club if they're going to play like that. Some will never be good enough, others are past it and need to be moved on, and the rest need to learn that 20 minutes of effort is not enough.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:18 pm No wonder Quins have gone so soft, they're living rent free in your head.

Gustard needs to start threatening players careers at the club if they're going to play like that. Some will never be good enough, others are past it and need to be moved on, and the rest need to learn that 20 minutes of effort is not enough.

All the advantages, no end product.

Looked like normal Quins service.
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stemoc wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:58 pm Image

Who won that one?
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Just watched the Quins Bath game from yesterday :yawn:

For a game that had around 70 points scored it was really average. It almost felt like it was rugby by numbers at times.
Took a replacement 9 to inject any real pace into the Quins play and Bath going down to 13 seemed to cause Quins to become the more disjointed of the two teams.

Not sure if it's an effect of trying to cram so many games into the time scale but the quality of the games I have watched hasn't been good.
I am sure there have been some crackers but they must be the exceptions.
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It usually takes a few weeks for a season to get going normally, no surprise that we're seeing that again, especially when you add in all the squad rotation effects too.

Still get some crackers though, have to say I'm pleased Wasps have been a part of several of them.
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Raggs wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:23 am It usually takes a few weeks for a season to get going normally, no surprise that we're seeing that again, especially when you add in all the squad rotation effects too.

Still get some crackers though, have to say I'm pleased Wasps have been a part of several of them.
Most teams have a number of games under their belts by now so they really should be up to pace.

I am pleased to see Wasps getting their act together. Watched them a couple of times before the break and they were dreadful at times. Only seen half a game and a few highlights since the restart but the difference is very noticeable :thumbup:
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Magpie26 wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:20 am Just watched the Quins Bath game from yesterday :yawn:

For a game that had around 70 points scored it was really average. It almost felt like it was rugby by numbers at times.
Took a replacement 9 to inject any real pace into the Quins play and Bath going down to 13 seemed to cause Quins to become the more disjointed of the two teams.

Not sure if it's an effect of trying to cram so many games into the time scale but the quality of the games I have watched hasn't been good.
I am sure there have been some crackers but they must be the exceptions.
I would be careful of trying to draw too many conclusions about the league in general from watching Quins. They've been largely shite since the restart, and have only a few excuses re: missing players - it's an attitude problem more than anything else.

There's probably been too many mismatches due to Covid but there's been a few good games in there.
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physiotherapists rubbing there hands with glee at the prospect of all that over time.
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So if we assume Farrell is unavailable for the Tests, who would people like to see line up at 12, and who do we think Eddie will pick?

Our options are somewhat limited when it comes to players Eddie knows, and lots of them are really 13s:

Piers Francis
Manu Tuilagi
Ollie Devoto
Fraser Dingwall
Henry Slade
Joe Marchant

how about people outside the squad? Sam James? Tom Hendrickson?
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JM2K6 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:09 am So if we assume Farrell is unavailable for the Tests, who would people like to see line up at 12, and who do we think Eddie will pick?

Our options are somewhat limited when it comes to players Eddie knows, and lots of them are really 13s:

Piers Francis
Manu Tuilagi
Ollie Devoto
Fraser Dingwall
Henry Slade
Joe Marchant

how about people outside the squad? Sam James? Tom Hendrickson?


Sam James
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Elliot Daly, he is never a FB in a million years, he has been playing at 13 this season anyway. Put Watson at 15 and May and Thorley on the wings
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12 Tuilagi
13 Slade

I suspect.

Youngs still infesting the 9 shirt, too.
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