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Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:01 pm So no school at all.

Can only go out to exercise once a day.

Yet ...

Communal worship and life event​s-​You can leave home to attend or visit a place of worship for communal worship

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:12 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:05 pm He looks fucking haggard

What was with the double flags in the background?

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:01 pm So no school at all.

Can only go out to exercise once a day.

Yet ...

Communal worship and life event​s-​You can leave home to attend or visit a place of worship for communal worship

Do circuits around the church during the mass

Do chinups, or dips during confession.

Sorry, the font isn't big enough to do laps

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:55 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

Well clearly it can and is being done at the last minute time and time and time again.
As an aside regarding the vaccinations, my friend who is a nurseis doing some vaccinations at a local GP surgery.
Well he isn't actually doing the need into the Deltoid that is being done by untrained staff, the majority of which are the GPs or practice nurses kids back from Uni. They have a little bit of training apparently via a video link.
The nursing staff draw up the doses etc and them to the kids to jab the needle into the deltoid.
Nice little earner for the kids the nurses and the GPs who will meet their QOF I suppose.

I thought he was taking the piss but he really wasn't.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:13 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:01 pm So no school at all.

Can only go out to exercise once a day.

Yet ...

Communal worship and life event​s-​You can leave home to attend or visit a place of worship for communal worship

In Scotland places of worship are shut and you can exercise as much as you like.

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

Raggs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:54 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

I'm guessing due to our location, and high proportion of key workers, our school was prepared. About 30 minutes after the speech, we received a text message saying the school will be open for key workers children.

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:05 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:55 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

Well clearly it can and is being done at the last minute time and time and time again.
As an aside regarding the vaccinations, my friend who is a nurseis doing some vaccinations at a local GP surgery.
Well he isn't actually doing the need into the Deltoid that is being done by untrained staff, the majority of which are the GPs or practice nurses kids back from Uni. They have a little bit of training apparently via a video link.
The nursing staff draw up the doses etc and them to the kids to jab the needle into the deltoid.
Nice little earner for the kids the nurses and the GPs who will meet their QOF I suppose.

I thought he was taking the piss but he really wasn't.

Christ on a Crutch

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:10 pm Mrs Saint to phone the BBC and call Boris out in 5....4....3....

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:10 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:05 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:55 pm

Well clearly it can and is being done at the last minute time and time and time again.
As an aside regarding the vaccinations, my friend who is a nurseis doing some vaccinations at a local GP surgery.
Well he isn't actually doing the need into the Deltoid that is being done by untrained staff, the majority of which are the GPs or practice nurses kids back from Uni. They have a little bit of training apparently via a video link.
The nursing staff draw up the doses etc and them to the kids to jab the needle into the deltoid.
Nice little earner for the kids the nurses and the GPs who will meet their QOF I suppose.

I thought he was taking the piss but he really wasn't.

Christ on a Crutch

Seems administration is covered here
https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-suppo ... -workforce

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 pm

Raggs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:54 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

I'm guessing due to our location, and high proportion of key workers, our school was prepared. About 30 minutes after the speech, we received a text message saying the school will be open for key workers children.

Lucky you. The schools round here are pretty clued up, but apparently none will be available till Wednesday.

Mrs Saint is currently drinking lots of alcohol while she tried to work out how to schedule tomorrow and what can be kicked down the road to later this week. BTW, overtime payment is currently banned......

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:19 pm My friend says he was drawing up 2 vaccines every 5 minutes and that he was paid £25 an hour.

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:21 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:19 pm My friend says he was drawing up 2 vaccines every 5 minutes and that he was paid £25 an hour.

That's why overtime pay is banned in the community I guess

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:24 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:21 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:19 pm My friend says he was drawing up 2 vaccines every 5 minutes and that he was paid £25 an hour.

That's why overtime pay is banned in the community I guess

I haven't been paid overtime in over 15 years.
Rarely can I even take TIL.

TB63 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:48 pm So the top four groups will receive the first jab by mid Feb, 2nd jab within 12 weeks mean that come April the same groups will need jabs, so the 6 weeks between will be used to start on the next levels, do they then stop to start on 2nd jabs for the first groups, followed by the 2nd, and only then restart on lower groups in July?
As you don't have full protection till the 2nd dose, and the lower groups seem to be the superspreaders, I can't see this lockdown ending anytime soon.
For example, I'm acting as a carer for my parents, both in their 90s. They should have first soon, followed by 2nd in April, but I'm way down the list and will still have to be bloody careful until they get the full dose..

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:06 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:13 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:01 pm So no school at all.

Can only go out to exercise once a day.

Yet ...

Communal worship and life event​s-​You can leave home to attend or visit a place of worship for communal worship

In Scotland places of worship are shut and you can exercise as much as you like.

It seems you can drive pretty much anywhere you want to exercise in Scotland which seems daft

TB63 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:48 pm So the top four groups will receive the first jab by mid Feb, 2nd jab within 12 weeks mean that come April the same groups will need jabs, so the 6 weeks between will be used to start on the next levels, do they then stop to start on 2nd jabs for the first groups, followed by the 2nd, and only then restart on lower groups in July?
As you don't have full protection till the 2nd dose, and the lower groups seem to be the superspreaders, I can't see this lockdown ending anytime soon.
For example, I'm acting as a carer for my parents, both in their 90s. They should have first soon, followed by 2nd in April, but I'm way down the list and will still have to be bloody careful until they get the full dose..

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:27 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:24 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:21 pm

That's why overtime pay is banned in the community I guess

I haven't been paid overtime in over 15 years.
Rarely can I even take TIL.

Fair enough. TIL accumulation will be ridiculous round here at this rate though, and Band 5/6 have an expectation that they will get it if they don't get overtime. There could be a revolution if that didn't happen

Jock42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:00 am

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:27 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:24 pm

I haven't been paid overtime in over 15 years.
Rarely can I even take TIL.

Fair enough. TIL accumulation will be ridiculous round here at this rate though, and Band 5/6 have an expectation that they will get it if they don't get overtime. There could be a revolution if that didn't happen

You need to tell your Mrs to move trusts. We wouldn't be able to operate without OT or TOIL.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:08 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:06 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:13 pm

In Scotland places of worship are shut and you can exercise as much as you like.

It seems you can drive pretty much anywhere you want to exercise in Scotland which seems daft

Up to five miles outside your local council area, no more than that.

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:27 am We have just lost over half our most senior Doctors in my area as they are either over 70 and will be shielding or will be shielding because of their Covid risk asessments.

Shit loads of nursing and other staff are expecting to be told to go home and shield imminently.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:35 am

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:27 am We have just lost over half our most senior Doctors in my area as they are either over 70 and will be shielding or will be shielding because of their Covid risk asessments.

Shit loads of nursing and other staff are expecting to be told to go home and shield imminently.

So why aren't you vaccinating all your staff before the fossils in your area?

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:35 am

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:27 am We have just lost over half our most senior Doctors in my area as they are either over 70 and will be shielding or will be shielding because of their Covid risk asessments.

Shit loads of nursing and other staff are expecting to be told to go home and shield imminently.

So why aren't you vaccinating all your staff before the fossils in your area?

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:29 am

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 pm Lack of planning and preparedness strikes again. Schools can open for key workers children but weren't notified band as a result none locally are open tomorrow. Out of a planned shift of 8 local district nurses, only 2 will be available. That's not even enough to cover all the insulin doses, let along the dressing changes, drivers, etc, This stuff can't be done last minute like this

There was no need for this last minute decision. The modelling is now pretty sophisticated and, from what I have seen, pretty accurate now compared to the earlier days when everyone was guessing about the virus and how patient care should be provided. Given the Gov knew about the increase in transmission of the new variant some weeks ago, well before Christmas, the modelling would have been quite clear about increasing cases, increased hospitalisation and increase in deaths if nothing was done. It would have taken a competent modeller about 30 mins to revise their models with the new transmission rates and half a day to develop the various scenarios required to bring it under control. Their analysis would have been pretty clear and would have been available to Gov before Christmas, and this is reflected in the advice being provided by Sage and others. To suggest that it was only on Monday that the Blonde Bumblecunt became aware of the impact and the increasing numbers and that this merited an immediate decision on new lock down is a lie of the first order. Everyone knew this was coming and the NHS here was put on an emergency footing some weeks before Christmas. The only explanation for the last minute decision is that the BB and his Brexit Ultras made a decision not to close down earlier for other political reasons. To go on national TV and say schools in England were safe and then to bring kids back for a day to act as super spreaders of a new, more contagious variant borders on the criminal. This Gov is killing people!

"Effective immediately, due to the severe impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on EMS and 9-1-1 Receiving Hospitals, adult patients (18 years of age or older) in blunt traumatic and nontraumatic out-of-hospital cardiac arrest (OHCA) shall not be transported [if]return of spontaneous circulation (ROSC) is not achieved in the field," the agency said in a memo issued to ambulance workers last week.
If there are no signs of breathing or a pulse, EMS will continue to perform resuscitation for at least 20 minutes, the memo said. If the patient is stabilized after the period of resuscitation, they would then be taken to a hospital. If the patient is declared dead at the scene or no pulse can be restored, paramedics will no longer transport the body to the hospital.

And the shortage of oxygen, given the high number of Covid-19 patients, has also pressured the system to conserve supply.
"Given the acute need to conserve oxygen, effective immediately, EMS should only administer supplemental oxygen to patients with oxygen saturation below 90%," EMS said in a memo to ambulance crews Monday.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:54 pm Paramedics in LA now being told not to transport patients with little chance of survival; & now they're rationing Oxygen

"Effective immediately, due to the severe impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on EMS and 9-1-1 Receiving Hospitals, adult patients (18 years of age or older) in blunt traumatic and nontraumatic out-of-hospital cardiac arrest (OHCA) shall not be transported [if]return of spontaneous circulation (ROSC) is not achieved in the field," the agency said in a memo issued to ambulance workers last week.
If there are no signs of breathing or a pulse, EMS will continue to perform resuscitation for at least 20 minutes, the memo said. If the patient is stabilized after the period of resuscitation, they would then be taken to a hospital. If the patient is declared dead at the scene or no pulse can be restored, paramedics will no longer transport the body to the hospital.

And the shortage of oxygen, given the high number of Covid-19 patients, has also pressured the system to conserve supply.
"Given the acute need to conserve oxygen, effective immediately, EMS should only administer supplemental oxygen to patients with oxygen saturation below 90%," EMS said in a memo to ambulance crews Monday.