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‘Ave that, froggies!

Bigger hasn’t looked right with the boot since he pulled up. Why he hasn’t been hooked I don’t know

He'll probably do something daft now, but I've been impressed with Carre. Been one of the few who's managed to match the French for physicality, and largely held his own in the scrums.

Fuck..

Good tactic - knacker their back row out by making them gallop in from 40 yards out.

Oh come on Biggar ffs..

RBear wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:35 pm Bigger hasn’t looked right with the boot since he pulled up. Why he hasn’t been hooked I don’t know

Good response by the forwards !

As you say; three missed kicks, I'd be worried he could actually do more damage by staying on.

Class !

Quality. But when was the last time we conceded 38 to a team that isn’t the all blacks under gatland?

Glad welsh rugby has spent the last 3 years suckling on the whims of the turk brigade

Brilliant finish from the garlic-muncher. France have been magnifique for most of the match, deserved winners.

RBear wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:46 pm Quality. But when was the last time we conceded 38 to a team that isn’t the all blacks under gatland?

It’s as if we’ve been Sean of our defensive mettle...

So hard to get excited about when there is no atmosphere.

Even though there's 60 points they just seem to have crept onto the scoreboard

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:49 pm So hard to get excited about when there is no atmosphere.

Even though there's 60 points they just seem to have crept onto the scoreboard

I do miss a belting rendition of, "La Marseillaise'.

I used to sing along with it in Lansdowne Road, back in the mists of time; it's a belter of a National Anthem

I rememer having Ansocmbe win us games, and biggar coming on to bore it out for 20.

Pivac Is proving to be a terrible coach Wales played terrible, yes france played great at times but Wales just fell apart, how many times did we lose the ball in contact, well done France your back in the big time.
We have gone backwards.

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:49 pm So hard to get excited about when there is no atmosphere.

Even though there's 60 points they just seem to have crept onto the scoreboard

It was an error strewn game punctuated by moments of French brilliance.

clive wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:57 pm Pivac Is proving to be a terrible coach Wales played terrible, yes france played great at times but Wales just fell apart, how many times did we lose the ball in contact, well done France your back in the big time.
We have gone backwards.

We don’t lose that game 2 years ago even with the french brilliance. The attack has marginally improved but defence has taken a giant step back

Congrats France, poor showing Wales

Theflier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:53 pm I rememer having Ansocmbe win us games, and biggar coming on to bore it out for 20.

Stupid thing is as good as anscombe was, I think we have 10s who can potentially be just as good. One of them isn’t even in the bloody squad

Fairly disappointing. Hard to know whether score is a fair reflection. France were clearly the better team, but Biggar left 8 points on the fielder, and we fucked up on their try line with that quick tap towards the end. Add in that France has that one opportunistic try, and the game could have been close at the end.

Having said that, we were well beat up front and spent almost the entire match on the back foot' whether that was in attack or defence.

The biggest concern for me is the attack. Pivac was specifically brought in as an antidote to the Gatland years of crash-ball only attacking...yet we look as bad, if not worse, than anything we put out under Warren-ball.

Jeff the Bear wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:03 pm
The biggest concern for me is the attack. Pivac was specifically brought in as an antidote to the Gatland years of crash-ball only attacking...yet we look as bad, if not worse, than anything we put out under Warren-ball.

They’ve improved set moves but look clueless any other time

I thought we looked tired and a step back to the bad old days, we must start to bring on the youngsters Bigger should have left the field he was clearly injured. after 10 mins there was no spark or energy and we just lost our way.
France will beat Ireland then are playing with flair and attack and looked good.

As things stand I cannot see any win apart from Georgia things must improve our defence is dire.
loose against the Scots and we are in trouble.

clive wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:12 pm As things stand I cannot see any win apart from Georgia things must improve our defence is dire.
loose against the Scots and we are in trouble.

It may be a blessing in disguise if we lose to the Scots. Means that the WRU may need to act fast.

Yes, instant sacking of pivac and his entire coaching ticket, plus funding normalised acoss pro rugby

they're fucking lucky we didnt get a reaming from NZ and japan this year too

Do we genuinely think the WRU will have the stones to clear house. The other problem being with the pandemic, can they even afford to? You get rid of pivac you have to get rid of heyward etc.

clive wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:07 pm I thought we looked tired and a step back to the bad old days, we must start to bring on the youngsters Bigger should have left the field he was clearly injured. after 10 mins there was no spark or energy and we just lost our way.
France will beat Ireland then are playing with flair and attack and looked good.

Have to say that team looked very old and tired last night. Was also amazed at the ground France were making running hard and straight. AWJ looked like he was playing a game too far in particular.

This of course doesn’t mean in any way I’m predicting we will beat you next week, just an observation. Also, Dupont is the best player in the world at the moment

I hope that Wales don't play that badly next week, It was clear players were lacking game time looked knackered looked bewildered, and have said themselves was way above what they've been playing.
But they did have 2 weeks prep which should have helped, so that's four defeats in a row but at least in those losses we were competing, yesterday we were a shambles in defence and blunt in attack, and if your gonna stick the ball in the air try to compete or at the very least pressure.
I hope Pivac proves himself to be the right choice and with time will get things in track, my concern is there are players coming to the end of their days and players who are just not cutting it anymore, North looks like a forward out of position and is posing no threat, Toby is not playing as well as he should Webb's best days seem to be gone, Bigger was blows hot and cold Pence just runs into brick walls his Ariel game was a waste of time, Wainwright is not at the races, and so on.
France have found their feet having spent years rotating players they have the best half backs in world rugby a mobile forward and have that classic French flair back in abundance.
Two of the tries they scored yesterday were brilliant and no defence in the world would have coped, the only frailty is discipline, in close games that will cost them, the good thing for them is that they have a good team to build on.
Wales right now are going backwards and from a top 4 side to a 7 8 placing.
The Welsh players are much better than the effort they put in yesterday, but the pressure is on, Pivac wants to play a certain way he must find the players to execute it, if it means letting go some big names then he has to do it.
You cannot have players on past reputation going on, Backrow halfback, full back and wing all need addressing.

Why wasn't Biggar taken off?

tbf, on second viewing, the players dont exist in wales, or are injured, who could've done anything, bar the BR

If we do play such lightweight locks like hill, he must be compensated for in the aggregate, SLH, Navidi, Wainwright.
Fuck knows where we go at hooker, 9, 12, 13, fb and wing tho

Carrying was an issue but bigger problem was clearing out... How did they not see that France were flooding the breakdown and making our ball messy?

Aerial contest was poor. Seemed to always be going for taps back and lost the ball way too many times that way. Stupid, and didn't change tack.

Not taking biggar off when he was clearly not right surprised me. If he'd kicked his kicks we might have made more of it... Not that we particularly deserved to.

Little point criticising the backs when the ball was so poor.

Lots that can be put down to rustiness and the French being a much better side these days, especially with a Shaun Edwards defence, but worrying signs of inability to adapt when problems with the desired style are apparent. Need to be better in almost every facet of the game.

There has to be mitre cup players begging for a salary half of what the dragons players are on. Ryan is another shocking GM

Rumour has it, Same Davies is on north of £200k.

200,000 pounds. It makes you wince.

That team is a miasmic hell hole for money.

Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:39 pm Rumour has it, Same Davies is on north of £200k.

200,000 pounds. It makes you wince.

That team is a miasmic hell hole for money.

40-10 atm. It's not pretty

PlanetGlyndwr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:51 am Why wasn't Biggar taken off?

Player power

Hammered them 14-5 second half <sigh>

Pivac calls up Lloyd Williams(for what reason) the day Cradiff fly out to munster, loss down to Lewis Jones' inability to play rugby.

That useless fucker, and every fucker hounding the RMWP can get fucked.

I would have said Rhodri Williams is the next cab off the rank - not sure what Lloyd Williams brings to the table

P in VG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:30 am I would have said Rhodri Williams is the next cab off the rank - not sure what Lloyd Williams brings to the table

THAT kick