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Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
by Begbie
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 am
by clydecloggie
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am
by Tichtheid
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:18 am
by westport
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
The problem is that we would still lose players due to player release and wouldn't have everyone available unless it is in an international window

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:21 am
by clydecloggie
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am

That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
No. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.

Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:30 am
by Tichtheid
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:21 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am [/b]

I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
No. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.

Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?

It wouldn't be the same as winning it proper, but there is huge congestion in fixtures as it is, there is only one weekend available as far as I can see and that is next week, where the player release problem arises.

Get this bastard covid season done and let's get back to normal come September, with crowds.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:32 am
by Torquemada 1420
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
It'll be the usual mix
- some will be in conspiratorial mode
- some will blame the FFR or the management. Plenty in the press rumour mill that it was Galthie himself who breached the protocols and hence was probably responsible for the spread

The downside is everyone from the public, to TV, the tournament organisers and sponsors are cheated because of one or two people's f**k up.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:32 am
by SaintK
Looks like the match will be off!
France have suspended training after another player tested positive for Covid-19 before Sunday's Six Nations match against Scotland.

Competition organisers had announced on Wednesday that the match would go ahead as planned despite an outbreak that saw 10 French players contract the virus.

The French Rugby Federation says, as a result of the latest positive case, "the entire group is in isolation".

It adds that it is in "close contact" with the Six Nations committee.

"Following the RT-PCR tests carried out this Wednesday, 24 February in the evening and the appearance of a positive case within the squad of players, the FFR medical committee met this morning and decided to suspend training," it said in a statement.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:33 am
by Torquemada 1420
westport wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:18 am
The problem is that we would still lose players due to player release and wouldn't have everyone available unless it is in an international window
Yup. No way should Scotland be the ones put at a disadvantage through no fault of their own.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:34 am
by Biffer
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
There isn't a weekend where we'll have everyone available until next season

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:49 am
by robmatic
westport wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:18 am
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am

That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
The problem is that we would still lose players due to player release and wouldn't have everyone available unless it is in an international window
Surely there would be some pressure from the unions to sort out the player release problem.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:51 am
by tc27
Player release issue mean a forfeit is the only answer.

Scotland should not be penalised here.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:53 am
by TNT
Well, that sucks, but that was all too predictable. Wishful thinking to imagine we could have that many cases living together and we magically managed to exclude everyone affected in time. The rumour mill has picked up pace on Galthié being at fault for flounting the rules, and the minister is launching an inquiry. Complete clusterfuck.

Having that game take place Sunday would be stupid imho. Best way to get the Scots in contact with yet more dormant cases and wreck the rest of their tournament. Can't complain if it's treated as a forfeit. It's rough on the players, but as an organisation who (allegedly) couldn't follow the strict rules allowing the competition to take place, we deserve it.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:54 am
by Slick
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:30 am
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:21 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am


It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
No. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.

Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?

It wouldn't be the same as winning it proper, but there is huge congestion in fixtures as it is, there is only one weekend available as far as I can see and that is next week, where the player release problem arises.

Get this bastard covid season done and let's get back to normal come September, with crowds.
Yes, agree with this, it's a bit of a farcical tournament in many ways anyway so just get it done, give the players a weekend off and move on.

I can live with a * to be honest.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:57 am
by tc27
I agree - cancel the tournament and void any results so far - start again in the Autumn...

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:21 am
by GogLais
tc27 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:57 am I agree - cancel the tournament and void any results so far - start again in the Autumn...
Let's see how Wales get on against England before we go down that road.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 am
by Yr Alban
tc27 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:57 am I agree - cancel the tournament and void any results so far - start again in the Autumn...
I’d agree, but we just won at Twickenham for the first time since about 1739, so I really don’t want that result expunged!

I don’t want to be awarded the game as a forfeit, but let me say now that if we were to win the title as a result, I’m 100% taking it. Don’t care if there is a * by it, anything to get rid of the ‘never won the 6N’ baggage.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:35 am
by Torquemada 1420
Bernol saying info it has it the game is goooooooooooooooooooooone

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/xv-de-fr ... tory.shtml

Lard arse Atonio is the latest infection.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:35 am
by Biffer
robmatic wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:49 am
westport wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:18 am
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 am

No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
The problem is that we would still lose players due to player release and wouldn't have everyone available unless it is in an international window
Surely there would be some pressure from the unions to sort out the player release problem.
Have seen any rugby politics recently?

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:42 am
by TNT
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:35 am Bernol saying info it has it the game is goooooooooooooooooooooone

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/xv-de-fr ... tory.shtml

Lard arse Atonio is the latest infection.
And he trained with the squad yesterday...

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:45 am
by tc27
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 am
tc27 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:57 am I agree - cancel the tournament and void any results so far - start again in the Autumn...
I’d agree, but we just won at Twickenham for the first time since about 1739, so I really don’t want that result expunged!

I don’t want to be awarded the game as a forfeit, but let me say now that if we were to win the title as a result, I’m 100% taking it. Don’t care if there is a * by it, anything to get rid of the ‘never won the 6N’ baggage.

Dammit you busted me.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:54 am
by Paddington Bear
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 am
tc27 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:57 am I agree - cancel the tournament and void any results so far - start again in the Autumn...
I’d agree, but we just won at Twickenham for the first time since about 1739, so I really don’t want that result expunged!

I don’t want to be awarded the game as a forfeit, but let me say now that if we were to win the title as a result, I’m 100% taking it. Don’t care if there is a * by it, anything to get rid of the ‘never won the 6N’ baggage.
I felt the same when England fulfilled my sole childhood ambition of us winning the Autumn Nations Cup, presented by Amazon.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:24 am
by Yr Alban
Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:54 am
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 am
tc27 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:57 am I agree - cancel the tournament and void any results so far - start again in the Autumn...
I’d agree, but we just won at Twickenham for the first time since about 1739, so I really don’t want that result expunged!

I don’t want to be awarded the game as a forfeit, but let me say now that if we were to win the title as a result, I’m 100% taking it. Don’t care if there is a * by it, anything to get rid of the ‘never won the 6N’ baggage.
I felt the same when England fulfilled my sole childhood ambition of us winning the Autumn Nations Cup, presented by Amazon.
It’s just that after more than 20 years, we’re becoming hostages to a damn statistic. That’s why I don’t care that our win in Wales in the Autumn was at a weird time, or that it wasn’t in Cardiff, or that our win at Twickenham was in an empty stadium. They were monkeys we had to get off our back, and the circumstances don’t matter.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:49 am
by Torquemada 1420
TNT wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:42 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:35 am Bernol saying info it has it the game is goooooooooooooooooooooone

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/xv-de-fr ... tory.shtml

Lard arse Atonio is the latest infection.
And he trained with the squad yesterday...
Well, he's so slow, there is a chance he never came in contact with any other players.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:55 am
by Torquemada 1420

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:19 pm
by Blackmac
A cynic would say that the latest positive is convenient for France as even if the game goes ahead the SG might prevent Scotland travelling. Then the French can cry foul.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:23 pm
by Jock42


Fucking shock!

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:43 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Blackmac wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:19 pm A cynic would say that the latest positive is convenient for France as even if the game goes ahead the SG might prevent Scotland travelling. Then the French can cry foul.
See my earlier post mooting exactly that.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:44 pm
by clydecloggie
Reschedule for October. Just like in 2020. We still have an open fixture at Murrayfield :thumbup:

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:47 pm
by Biffer
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:44 pm Reschedule for October. Just like in 2020. We still have an open fixture at Murrayfield :thumbup:
Yeah - at Murrayfield. This game will be in Paris. I want three at MF, we'll need the ticket revenue.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:49 pm
by laurent
Rescheduled in July apparently

Sorry

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:51 pm
by Jock42
When half the team is away with the Lions

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:55 pm
by Torquemada 1420
laurent wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:49 pm Rescheduled in July apparently

Sorry
Where did you get that date from?

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:57 pm
by Begbie
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:51 pm When half the team is away with the Lions

:lol: :clap:

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:00 pm
by Jock42
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:57 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:51 pm When half the team is away with the Lions

:lol: :clap:
In all seriousness. The key players will be there which is enough to fuck Scotland right over..

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:05 pm
by Begbie
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:00 pm
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:57 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:51 pm When half the team is away with the Lions

:lol: :clap:
In all seriousness. The key players will be there which is enough to fuck Scotland right over..

Yep, you just know the outcome of this will fuck us over. Shambles.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:06 pm
by Yr Alban
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:00 pm
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:57 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:51 pm When half the team is away with the Lions

:lol: :clap:
In all seriousness. The key players will be there which is enough to fuck Scotland right over..
Exactly. We had Finn Russell called up as a tackle bag holder last time round, which immediately led to our losing to Fiji. Scotland won’t be missing many players, just the few absolute game-changers, because they’re the only ones that ever get picked.

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:07 pm
by Marylandolorian
What about the players, are they asymptomatic or any of them have bad symptoms?
I thought Atonio already got it last year.

Most clubs did very well protecting their players and are really pissed off with Galthié & co.
For once France has a good coach :bimbo:

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:12 pm
by ASMO
If Scotland are forced to play the rescheduled game with players missing they should just stick out the U20 squad and give a big fuck off to the 6N committee

Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:38 pm
by Biffer
ASMO wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:12 pm If Scotland are forced to play the rescheduled game with players missing they should just stick out the U20 squad and give a big fuck off to the 6N committee
That's exactly what I think. Treat it as a bit of a laugh, no reason to take it seriously.