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Jones seems to gets annoyed by the media telling him who to select.

Like with that number 8
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The Australians have started up a spite thread vs Scotland at the other place but there were no Scots on it. Only found out on that thread that all the Scots were over here. 😂


Anyway, England are going to put 109pts on Tonga.
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I have read on the Book of Face that the ABs have scored 89 tries this year. I also read that no side has even scored 100 tries in a calendar year.

Countdown begins

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Also -

New Zealand set to crush 14-year Springbok record
Will Jordan on the runNew Zealand set to crush 14-year Springbok record
Published on November 4, 2021
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A record that has been held by the Springboks since Jake White was in charge of the team could be broken by the rampant All Blacks in Saturday’s Test against Italy.

The All Blacks will face Italy, Ireland and France during the rest of their overseas tour, after demolishing a second-string USA (104-14) and Wales (40-17) in successive Tests.

Ian Foster’s side also ran up big scores against a Tonga team missing most of their first-choice players (102-0) and beat Fiji twice: 60-13 and then 57-23.

The All Blacks were able to score 57 points against the Wallabies in a Bledisloe Cup Test at Eden Park this year.

This has put the New Zealanders within touching distance of a number of records.

Should the All Blacks score another 31 points in the final three Test matches of 2021, they could set a new record for most points in a calendar year.

That record is currently held by the Springboks when they scored 658 points in 17 Tests on the road to claiming the World Cup in 2007.

TOP 5 FOR MOST TEST POINTS SCORED IN A CALENDAR YEAR:

1. South Africa – 658 (2007)

2. England – 644 (2003)

3. New Zealand – 628 (2021*)

4. New Zealand – 602 (2003)

5. New Zealand – 594 (2007)
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I’m actually surprised the other teams were ahead in the first place if I’m honest.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:50 amI’m actually surprised the other teams were ahead in the first place if I’m honest.
Same. Both were strong sides that won world cups, but I don't recall them having particularly high scoring attacks.
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Checking the SA one. They lost a few matches, but
they tonked Namibia (100+), Samoa and England. Played England a lot (4 times) and beat them well some in the 50’s.

And ran up quite a few in the 30’s against other teams.

They played a whopping 17 games.

Lost 3, two to NZ and once to Aus.
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From what I've seen of George Ford recently, I'll admit its largely highlights, he should at least be in the squad.
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If Farrell's covid test comes back positive, who comes onto bench in place of Smith?
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:09 pm If Farrell's covid test comes back positive, who comes onto bench in place of Smith?
Supposedly Furbank comes in at 10, and Atkinson goes to the 23 shirt.
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Oh blimey, missed that news.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:15 pm Oh blimey, missed that news.
Rumour only.
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Scotland (v Aus)

15. Stuart Hogg – Exeter Chiefs - (Captain) – 85 caps
14. Darcy Graham – Edinburgh Rugby – 20 caps
13. Chris Harris – Gloucester Rugby – 28 caps
12. Sam Johnson – Glasgow Warriors – 19 caps
11. Duhan van der Merwe – Worcester Warriors – 10 caps
10. Finn Russell – Racing 92 - (Vice-Captain) – 55 caps
9. Ali Price – Glasgow Warriors – 43 caps

8. Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 14 caps
7. Hamish Watson – Edinburgh Rugby – 42 caps
6. Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby - (Vice-Captain) – 28 caps
5. Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby – 45 caps
4. Sam Skinner – Exeter Chiefs – 12 caps
3. Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 39 caps
2. George Turner – Glasgow Warriors – 18 caps
1. Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby – 1 cap

Replacements

16. Ewan Ashman – Sale Sharks - Uncapped
17. Jamie Bhatti – Glasgow Warriors – 19 caps
18. Oli Kebble – Glasgow Warriors – 9 caps
19. Jamie Hodgson – Edinburgh Rugby – 1 cap
20. Josh Bayliss – Bath Rugby – Uncapped
21. George Horne – Glasgow Warriors – 14 caps
22. Adam Hastings – Gloucester Rugby – 23 caps
23. Kyle Steyn – Glasgow Warriors – 2 caps
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Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:15 pm Oh blimey, missed that news.
Yes, awaiting second test...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/59176625

England captain Owen Farrell has tested positive for Covid-19 on the eve of Saturday's Autumn Nations Series opener against Tonga.

Farrell will miss training on Friday but the Rugby Football Union (RFU) said he may still be able to play the match.

The 30-year-old is isolating and will take further tests on Friday.

On Thursday a member of England support staff tested positive but the RFU says "England are continuing preparations" for Saturday's match at Twickenham.

A statement added that all other players and staff had received negative results after a further round of testing on Thursday.

Farrell is due to start at fly-half, with Marcus Smith on the bench after he missed several training sessions this week with a minor leg injury.

Smith may now be called in to start and, with George Ford left out of the autumn squad, replacement George Furbank could offer back-up at 10.
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Aus (v Scotland)

Wallabies:
15. Andrew Kellaway,
14. Tom Wright,
13. Len Ikitau,
12. Hunter Paisami,
11. Jordan Petaia,
10. James O’Connor,
9. Nic White,

8. Rob Valetini,
7. Michael Hooper (c),
6. Rob Leota,
5. Izack Rodda,
4. Rory Arnold,
3. Allan Alaalatoa,
2. Folau Fainga’a,
1. James Slipper.

Reserves: Connal McInerney, Angus Bell, Taniela Tupou, Will Skelton, Pete Samu, Tate McDermott, Kurtley Beale, Izaia Perese.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:25 pm Aus (v Scotland)

Wallabies:
15. Andrew Kellaway,
14. Tom Wright,
13. Len Ikitau,
12. Hunter Paisami,
11. Jordan Petaia,
10. James O’Connor,
9. Nic White,

8. Rob Valetini,
7. Michael Hooper (c),
6. Rob Leota,
5. Izack Rodda,
4. Rory Arnold,
3. Allan Alaalatoa,
2. Folau Fainga’a,
1. James Slipper.

Reserves: Connal McInerney, Angus Bell, Taniela Tupou, Will Skelton, Pete Samu, Tate McDermott, Kurtley Beale, Izaia Perese.

I missed a lot of RC this year, how does that team stack up?

I know about a dozen of the names
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:35 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:25 pm Aus (v Scotland)

Wallabies:
15. Andrew Kellaway,
14. Tom Wright,
13. Len Ikitau,
12. Hunter Paisami,
11. Jordan Petaia,
10. James O’Connor,
9. Nic White,

8. Rob Valetini,
7. Michael Hooper (c),
6. Rob Leota,
5. Izack Rodda,
4. Rory Arnold,
3. Allan Alaalatoa,
2. Folau Fainga’a,
1. James Slipper.

Reserves: Connal McInerney, Angus Bell, Taniela Tupou, Will Skelton, Pete Samu, Tate McDermott, Kurtley Beale, Izaia Perese.

I missed a lot of RC this year, how does that team stack up?

I know about a dozen of the names
Wallabies struggled against the All Blacks beat the Springbokke at home.

Scotland need to defend well and beat them up front

I always rate Quade Cooper. Much better kicker then O,Connor.
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Now that our teams play in the URC it's great to know the Scottish players aswell. Good luck.
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A Scottish back line with 5 Test Lions in it... :shock:

A Scottish XV that is as widely predicted with no evidence of the Toony Tombola... :shock:

That bench is very green though, against a bench with Skelton and Beale on it. The Scots better be well ahead after 60 minutes.
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Anyone else going?
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clydecloggie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm A Scottish back line with 5 Test Lions in it... :shock:

A Scottish XV that is as widely predicted with no evidence of the Toony Tombola... :shock:

That bench is very green though, against a bench with Skelton and Beale on it. The Scots better be well ahead after 60 minutes.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:25 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm A Scottish back line with 5 Test Lions in it... :shock:

A Scottish XV that is as widely predicted with no evidence of the Toony Tombola... :shock:

That bench is very green though, against a bench with Skelton and Beale on it. The Scots better be well ahead after 60 minutes.
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Slick wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:56 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:25 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm A Scottish back line with 5 Test Lions in it... :shock:

A Scottish XV that is as widely predicted with no evidence of the Toony Tombola... :shock:

That bench is very green though, against a bench with Skelton and Beale on it. The Scots better be well ahead after 60 minutes.
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That and Wales v SA are the games of the round.

But I think my Fellow SH’ers will take both.
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That and Wales v SA are the games of the round.

But I think my Fellow SH’ers will take both.
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The France Argentina game has the most fireworks potential :P

Usually tight and often bad tempered :lol:
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Springbokke is a big worry. Big , big test for Paul Rosers Damian Willemse and Herschel Jantjies. We haven't win in Cardiff for 8 years.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:24 pm Springbokke is a big worry. Big , big test for Paul Rosers Damian Willemse and Herschel Jantjies. We haven't win in Cardiff for 8 years.
You aren’t fooling the mockers Oom. You’re going to March it.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:12 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:24 pm Springbokke is a big worry. Big , big test for Paul Rosers Damian Willemse and Herschel Jantjies. We haven't win in Cardiff for 8 years.
You aren’t fooling the mockers Oom. You’re going to March it.
It’s Oom so what do you expect :lol:
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Tbf, while South Africa should walk it, they are more than capable of playing well below their level.
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I see Eng has gotten lucky: Farrell has tested positive for COVID :lol:
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:58 am
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:50 amI’m actually surprised the other teams were ahead in the first place if I’m honest.
Same. Both were strong sides that won world cups, but I don't recall them having particularly high scoring attacks.
That Eng side of orcs of 2003 annihilated everyone. Remember their oppos would have mostly have been NH sides.
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Surely the big factor is that 2003 and 7 are World Cup years with the additional number of matches? England played something like 17 tests in 2003

If NZ can better that in a “normal” year, that’s some achievement
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Sinkers wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:01 am Surely the big factor is that 2003 and 7 are World Cup years with the additional number of matches? England played something like 17 tests in 2003

If NZ can better that in a “normal” year, that’s some achievement
The ABs have played 12 tests so far this year with 3 more to go, so 15 in total. If they break the record it'll be a good effort for sure.
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Anyone know how quickly Amazon Prime put full games back online to watch later? Going to miss the Wales v SA live
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:04 am Anyone know how quickly Amazon Prime put full games back online to watch later? Going to miss the Wales v SA live
I believe it's just there. No time at all, it just switches from live to regular once the stream is finished. Could be wrong though.
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Raggs wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:06 am
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:04 am Anyone know how quickly Amazon Prime put full games back online to watch later? Going to miss the Wales v SA live
I believe it's just there. No time at all, it just switches from live to regular once the stream is finished. Could be wrong though.
This is what happens with other sport on Prime.
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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:14 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:06 am
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:04 am Anyone know how quickly Amazon Prime put full games back online to watch later? Going to miss the Wales v SA live
I believe it's just there. No time at all, it just switches from live to regular once the stream is finished. Could be wrong though.
This is what happens with other sport on Prime.
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:58 am
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:50 amI’m actually surprised the other teams were ahead in the first place if I’m honest.
Same. Both were strong sides that won world cups, but I don't recall them having particularly high scoring attacks.
That England team scored bucket loads of tries, despite the constant narrative that they were boring.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:08 am
Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:58 am
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:50 amI’m actually surprised the other teams were ahead in the first place if I’m honest.
Same. Both were strong sides that won world cups, but I don't recall them having particularly high scoring attacks.
That Eng side of orcs of 2003 annihilated everyone. Remember their oppos would have mostly have been NH sides.
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:27 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:08 am
Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:58 am

Same. Both were strong sides that won world cups, but I don't recall them having particularly high scoring attacks.
That Eng side of orcs of 2003 annihilated everyone. Remember their oppos would have mostly have been NH sides.
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Apart from a couple of games that is utter carnage. I stand corrected!
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