2023 Summer Nations Series

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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:10 pm Wonderful start, great heads up rugby by Scotland
"You can't play the same structure when you are a player down" :think:
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:44 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:40 pm Just before Ali went off, I was about to say his ball had so far been faster than usual. Then the wife came through and I missed what he was binned for.

Dupont took a quick tap and Price tackled him too early
And that was worth yellow?
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Nice to see a proper game of rugby after that shitshow this afternoon.
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charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:44 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:40 pm Just before Ali went off, I was about to say his ball had so far been faster than usual. Then the wife came through and I missed what he was binned for.

Dupont took a quick tap and Price tackled him too early
And that was worth yellow?
No but there was about 48 penalties before that. Some of them deserved.
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charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:44 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:40 pm Just before Ali went off, I was about to say his ball had so far been faster than usual. Then the wife came through and I missed what he was binned for.

Dupont took a quick tap and Price tackled him too early
And that was worth yellow?


Berry had given about 87 penalties against Scotland before that and he kept warning about another one.

He also warned Jamie Ritchie about penalties in the 22 after Price was sent off so he was looking to bin anther Scottish player
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:53 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:44 pm


Dupont took a quick tap and Price tackled him too early
And that was worth yellow?
No but there was about 48 penalties before that. Some of them deserved.


What pisses me off, and I really don't like whingeing about referees, is that Darge was penalised for being too long in the ruck, and that was very debatable, but France got away with the same thing soon after.

It's fine if the refs are consistent for both sides.
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charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:44 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:40 pm Just before Ali went off, I was about to say his ball had so far been faster than usual. Then the wife came through and I missed what he was binned for.

Dupont took a quick tap and Price tackled him too early
And that was worth yellow?
It was since Sco were on a warning after racking up almost double figures in pens. :think:
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm Nice to see a proper game of rugby after that shitshow this afternoon.
I had just managed to expunge that from my mind. Thanks. :evil:
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Even without the warning, not retreating 10 and making a tackle is often met with a yellow.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:57 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:53 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm

And that was worth yellow?
No but there was about 48 penalties before that. Some of them deserved.


What pisses me off, and I really don't like whingeing about referees, is that Darge was penalised for being too long in the ruck, and that was very debatable, but France got away with the same thing soon after.

It's fine if the refs are consistent for both sides.
Completely agree
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:57 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:53 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm

And that was worth yellow?
No but there was about 48 penalties before that. Some of them deserved.


What pisses me off, and I really don't like whingeing about referees, is that Darge was penalised for being too long in the ruck, and that was very debatable, but France got away with the same thing soon after.

It's fine if the refs are consistent for both sides.
The lineout maul penalty against Ritchie was infuriating which led to a few other penalties.
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Why isn't Price just clearing that? Pish drop by Schoeman but just clear the fucking ball.
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Why can’t a rugby team, let alone an international team, sort out fucking exits? It’s been an issue for a long, long time now. Fucking infuriating
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Now that IS heads up rugby.
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Half time talk seems to have worked for Les Blancs
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I know it is still pre season effectively but the number of players jogging back there is very poor.
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Great try. But Price being very lazy there and leaving a massive dog leg gap
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Kinghorn should have put the kick into the stand. Oh well
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Get Price to fuck
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FFS, the English can't even make balls now, let alone play with them (Marler aside).
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And 1 guest wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:12 pm Kinghorn should have put the kick into the stand. Oh well
Very difficult at that angle unless he was going for 20m gain.
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Why wasn't the scrum dominance from Scotland rewarded?
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Slick wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:11 pm Great try. But Price being very lazy there and leaving a massive dog leg gap
Yup. If you show him the outside you better be able to stop him taking it.
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Can we take Finn and Nel off please. Nothing to gain keeping them on.
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Big D wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:13 pm
And 1 guest wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:12 pm Kinghorn should have put the kick into the stand. Oh well
Very difficult at that angle unless he was going for 20m gain.
Yeah, but harsh, it was a stunning kick and he was let down by the chasers
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:09 pm Now that IS heads up rugby.
You'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.

Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
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Lard Arse's first contribution is to blow a great position with a needless free kick. :bimbo:
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charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:18 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:09 pm Now that IS heads up rugby.
You'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.

Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
I think you and J2M have difficulty in understanding what heads up is. It is making the most of situations by making the right decisions. The fact that Sco have been running everything from everywhere does not constitute heads up: it means they play attacking rugby regardless.

Note the commentators picking up on Sco NOT playing the right (heads up again) rugby when down to 14.

By contrast, Fra do not run from everywhere but have (twice now) caught Sco with lazy running from a long kick.
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Ntamack off Fra's chances just went up. :grin:
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That man Villiere :thumbup:
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:23 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:18 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:09 pm Now that IS heads up rugby.
You'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.

Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
I think you and J2M have difficulty in understanding what heads up is. It is making the most of situations by making the right decisions. The fact that Sco have been running everything from everywhere does not constitute heads up: it means they play attacking rugby regardless.

Note the commentators picking up on Sco NOT playing the right (heads up again) rugby when down to 14.

By contrast, Fra do not run from everywhere but have (twice now) caught Sco with lazy running from a long kick.
Like Finn spotting the overlap and moving play that way for Scotland to score the first try? Which is where this absurd argument started
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Lard Arse walking back to cover there and he's only been on 10 minutes.
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Finn gets a big OOOOOOO from the French crowd, no bigger compliment.

Ends in a lovely heads up try
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:23 pm
charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:18 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:09 pm Now that IS heads up rugby.
You'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.

Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
I think you and J2M have difficulty in understanding what heads up is. It is making the most of situations by making the right decisions. The fact that Sco have been running everything from everywhere does not constitute heads up: it means they play attacking rugby regardless.

Note the commentators picking up on Sco NOT playing the right (heads up again) rugby when down to 14.

By contrast, Fra do not run from everywhere but have (twice now) caught Sco with lazy running from a long kick.
Except Scotland don't simply "run everything". But they have repeatedly been explicitly prevented from taking a quick throw a few times, while France have repeatedly been allowed to, even when Scotland players are right there.

Oh and did Scotland not play the "right rugby" last week with 14 players?
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Lard Arse misses the tackle FFS.
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Fuck, just woke up the kids
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Heads-up rugby is simply playing what's in front of you, not sticking religiously to what the game plan demands. It doesn't mean always making the right decision; players can play heads-up rugby but still make the wrong call or make an error. It simply means the immediate situation dictates your actions, not the playbook.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:40 pm Lard Arse misses the tackle FFS.
I'm not even there so how can I miss a tackle?
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Is Ben white out injured or been dropped? Much better game than the dross on earlier.
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Good heads up rugby from Finn there spotting the opportunity for the quick tap
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