It's been there for so long, it's permanently ingrained (plus WR will be making its stance clear). I still cringe at Paddy O'Lyin's performance in '99 to cheat Fiji out of a win against France. At least O'Lyin belatedly admitted that he'd "lost the plot" (his own words) but only after he'd retired and it did not matter.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:35 pmI know, but England don't even need to win this, so what's the point in giving tier 2 more evidence for their grievances?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:32 pmTier 2 (ignore Eng's ranking). Other way around and we would not be looking at it.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:30 pm I don't often agree with Ugo, but he's right. "If it's not clear and obvious, why are we looking at it?"
Rugby is a laughing stock.
RWC England v (the whole of) Samoa
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To repeat, 2 qualifiers from this pool is a farce. A proper seeding and nobody makes the 1/4s.
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May should be playing in the Premiership Rugby Cup.
So should Daly and Farrell.
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His fall from form was spectacular. Hero to zero in under a year.
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Once a pacy winger loses his pace, that's that.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:52 pmHis fall from form was spectacular. Hero to zero in under a year.
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Ben Earl is a cunt and 40 years ago would have been on the receiving end of many a sly dig.
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Paiaua is as slow as Steward.
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Great tackle by Ford to stop a certain try.
He is loathsomeHal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:55 pm Ben Earl is a cunt and 40 years ago would have been on the receiving end of many a sly dig.
Weird that in England we tend to wait too long to start pacy wingers and then hang on to them too long once they have lost their pace. New Zealand are good at playing wingers at their best and then dumping them.Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pmOnce a pacy winger loses his pace, that's that.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:52 pmHis fall from form was spectacular. Hero to zero in under a year.
Ugo - Farrell with the try saving tackle. Ford you prick
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Great tackle, but lets be honest how as an outside back do you get ran down by Ford.
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Wow, actually some criticism of England by the ITV commentary team!
Left hand down a bit
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Said it before, but it's the NFL running back analogy. Flog the crap out of them for six or seven years and move on as soon as production drops even a bit.petej wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:58 pmWeird that in England we tend to wait too long to start pacy wingers and then hang on to them too long once they have lost their pace. New Zealand are good at playing wingers at their best and then dumping them.Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pmOnce a pacy winger loses his pace, that's that.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:52 pm
His fall from form was spectacular. Hero to zero in under a year.
Ugo - Farrell with the try saving tackle. Ford you prick
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Totally. The entire Eng U20 squad seemed to have taken behavioural lessons from him and Itoje. It's actually made worse by them not being very good.Lady P wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:57 pmHe is loathsomeHal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:55 pm Ben Earl is a cunt and 40 years ago would have been on the receiving end of many a sly dig.
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See my earlier post.el capitan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:58 pm Great tackle, but lets be honest how as an outside back do you get ran down by Ford.
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Vunipola on to add some pace to the proceedings.
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Bizarre thing is that May had been dropped from the squad, they know he is done..... Then an injury to Watson and he's not only back in the squad but first choice winger.
Loads in that category though, it's a disgrace that the likes of Cole, Vunipola, Youngs, Care, Tuilagi etc. have been selected in a 2023 world cup squad. That's before you get to the non-existent form of Sinckler, Daly, and so many others.
Loads in that category though, it's a disgrace that the likes of Cole, Vunipola, Youngs, Care, Tuilagi etc. have been selected in a 2023 world cup squad. That's before you get to the non-existent form of Sinckler, Daly, and so many others.
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Why did he kick there?
Left hand down a bit
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Ford off and Farrell to FH
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Ford: Runs the show without Farrell. So sidelined as soon as Captain Fantastic returns and subbed.
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"Sack is good".
Penalty.
Penalty.
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I kind of hope we lose now to teach us a lesson about shitty selection.
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You are beyond delusional if you think a loss would change Borthwick's thinking.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:07 pm I kind of hope we lose now to teach us a lesson about shitty selection.
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Clearly hanging on, should be a penalty, but, surprise, not given
Left hand down a bit
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S/Lt_Phillips wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:09 pm Clearly holding on, should be a penalty, but, surprise, not given
Left hand down a bit
I saw that as well.S/Lt_Phillips wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:09 pm Clearly hanging on, should be a penalty, but, surprise, not given
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As per that likely try, we'll probably out bludgeon them to an ugly win.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:07 pm I kind of hope we lose now to teach us a lesson about shitty selection.
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Surely Genge has to stay on his feet there
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I like the way the TJ has to explain to Brace why it's not a try