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Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:28 pm
by Tichtheid
There's very little point in that new law if you can mark from the kick

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:29 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:28 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:25 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:24 pm

Nah, that was the 3rd ruck already that Ireland have had a player come out the back to slow it down. It’s a tactic of theirs and the ref is onto it hopefully
I was looking mainly at the man solidly over the ball. I didn’t think the Irish lad at the back was slowing it down too much.
He’s blocking players coming in to clear, they do it all the time
Master cheats at the breakdown and have been for years.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:30 pm
by Slick
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:28 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:25 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:24 pm

Nah, that was the 3rd ruck already that Ireland have had a player come out the back to slow it down. It’s a tactic of theirs and the ref is onto it hopefully
I was looking mainly at the man solidly over the ball. I didn’t think the Irish lad at the back was slowing it down too much.
He’s blocking players coming in to clear, they do it all the time
Watch them also hitting rucks from the side to disrupt the 9

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:31 pm
by fishfoodie
See, at least he's consistent

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:33 pm
by Tichtheid
Very good defensive set from Ireland there

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:33 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:29 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:28 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:25 pm

I was looking mainly at the man solidly over the ball. I didn’t think the Irish lad at the back was slowing it down too much.
He’s blocking players coming in to clear, they do it all the time
Master cheats at the breakdown and have been for years.
Now that was as clear as a laying down in the way “trying to get out” as I’ve seen.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:35 pm
by Slick
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:33 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:29 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:28 pm

He’s blocking players coming in to clear, they do it all the time
Master cheats at the breakdown and have been for years.
Now that was as clear as a laying down in the way “trying to get out” as I’ve seen.
Now you see it

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:35 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Hold on to the fucking thing.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:36 pm
by Kiwias
We need to look after the ball a bit better

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:36 pm
by Tichtheid
This is a very good attack versus a very good defence atm

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:36 pm
by Torquemada 1420
G-P slows down any opportunity to counter from turnover. Both SHs have been poor.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:38 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Laying all over the back of the ruck and then in the side. Come on ref.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:39 pm
by fishfoodie
I think I'd have taken the three

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:39 pm
by Tichtheid
Bit harsh, I don't think there has been a straight throw yet and that one gets pinged.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm
by Enzedder
Come on Berry. Don't you know the laws?

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm
by JM2K6
It's a bit of a shit game so far tbf

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:42 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm It's a bit of a shit game so far tbf

I'm enjoying it, it's an intriguing match up

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:43 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm It's a bit of a shit game so far tbf
Poor handling, messy at the breakdown and inaccuracy at almost every stage.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:43 pm
by Enzedder
Razor out.

This is shit

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:44 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:42 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm It's a bit of a shit game so far tbf

I'm enjoying it, it's an intriguing match up
Sure, it's tight and physical. It's pretty dumb and inaccurate though.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:45 pm
by Slick
I just don’t know how with all the reviewing and training that goes on with refs that they don’t pick up on Ireland doing all this in rucks, it’s been going on for an age

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:45 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:44 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:42 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm It's a bit of a shit game so far tbf

I'm enjoying it, it's an intriguing match up
Sure, it's tight and physical. It's pretty dumb and inaccurate though.

I enjoy these games as much as I enjoy the Harlem Globetrotter stuff, the conditions are making it very tight and error-prone

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:46 pm
by Kiwias
Kicking the ball after an advantage usually means advantage over, right?

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:47 pm
by JM2K6
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:45 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:44 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:42 pm


I'm enjoying it, it's an intriguing match up
Sure, it's tight and physical. It's pretty dumb and inaccurate though.

I enjoy these games as much as I enjoy the Harlem Globetrotter stuff, the conditions are making it very tight and error-prone
Your generosity of spirit is to be admired!

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:47 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:40 pm It's a bit of a shit game so far tbf
Not been even that good! Must try harder.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:47 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Kiwias wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:46 pm Kicking the ball after an advantage usually means advantage over, right?
Kick is advantage over.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:48 pm
by Enzedder
Now he decides to penalise going down in the ruck. Ireland have done it all game

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:48 pm
by Kiwias
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:47 pm
Kiwias wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:46 pm Kicking the ball after an advantage usually means advantage over, right?
Kick is advantage over.
Not tonight it seems

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm
by JM2K6
Mind you, the last five minutes of rugby have been very poor regardless of conditions

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm
by el capitan
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:45 pm I just don’t know how with all the reviewing and training that goes on with refs that they don’t pick up on Ireland doing all this in rucks, it’s been going on for an age
I think you can be charitable and credit Irish dark arts for the loitering at the back of rucks and messing with clean ball, but wtf are the officials looking at when you have Irish players just blatantly diving around the side of rucks? I've counted getting on for a dozen so far that have been totally missed every time.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm
by Enzedder
This doesn't make sense. Berry is the worst performer on fhe park and that is saying something

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:51 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm This doesn't make sense
If it’s touched by Ireland then AB throw in. If it’s not touched then it’s out on the full. What was all that about?!?

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:51 pm
by Bloutoria
Come on NZ, show some self belief. Ffs

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:51 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Ire effectively operating with 3 locks? Not working out well for them at the lineout though.

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:53 pm
by JM2K6
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:51 pm
Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm This doesn't make sense
If it’s touched by Ireland then AB throw in. If it’s not touched then it’s out on the full. What was all that about?!?
The claim was his kicking foot was touching the line, checked by the TMO. Do you guys not hear the ref

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:53 pm
by Bloutoria
At last he blows "not rolling away"

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:53 pm
by Slick
At last even the commentators are catching up with me

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:54 pm
by PCPhil
Starting to look that a warm up match for Ireland might have been a good idea

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:54 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:53 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:51 pm
Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm This doesn't make sense
If it’s touched by Ireland then AB throw in. If it’s not touched then it’s out on the full. What was all that about?!?
The claim was his kicking foot was touching the line, checked by the TMO. Do you guys not hear the ref
Would have been better if the officials had picked up the illegality at the preceding ruck which resulted in the turnover.

How is Berry ever given match time?

Re: Ireland vs All Blacks

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:54 pm
by Slick
el capitan wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:49 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:45 pm I just don’t know how with all the reviewing and training that goes on with refs that they don’t pick up on Ireland doing all this in rucks, it’s been going on for an age
I think you can be charitable and credit Irish dark arts for the loitering at the back of rucks and messing with clean ball, but wtf are the officials looking at when you have Irish players just blatantly diving around the side of rucks? I've counted getting on for a dozen so far that have been totally missed every time.
I’ve covered that one earlier as well