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sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:26 pm A lot of scrap and heart from Wasps so far, nice to see.

Mehh. Not actually watching this one but, not like I didn't tell you so. No Dupont has pretty much meant no Toulouse this season.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:31 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:26 pm A lot of scrap and heart from Wasps so far, nice to see.

Mehh. Not actually watching this one but, not like I didn't tell you so. No Dupont has pretty much meant no Toulouse this season.

Toulouse have cut Wasps open a few times and had opportunities, they've just squandered them or been undone by desperate defence.

Dayglo is so biased it's unreal, as is Healy now, that is a red all day long

I thought Umaga might have crouched enough for mitigation, but he ran the risk and paid the price.

We're going to need a hell of a game to overcome this.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:48 pm I thought Umaga might have crouched enough for mitigation, but he ran the risk and paid the price.

We're going to need a hell of a game to overcome this.

What happened?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:50 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:48 pm I thought Umaga might have crouched enough for mitigation, but he ran the risk and paid the price.

We're going to need a hell of a game to overcome this.

What happened?

Didn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.

I understand the reasoning behind it, but one of the shittest laws in rugby is being able to lie all over the ball on the ground after your maul has retreated 15m or more.
If the ball is on the ground you should have to get the fuck off it.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:55 pm I understand the reasoning behind it, but one of the shittest laws in rugby is being able to lie all over the ball on the ground after your maul has retreated 15m or more.
If the ball is on the ground you should have to get the fuck off it.

At the very least if it goes to ground while still travelling forward, the team in possession should get the scrum put in. Possession should only turn over if the defence actually stop the maul dead.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:50 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:48 pm I thought Umaga might have crouched enough for mitigation, but he ran the risk and paid the price.

We're going to need a hell of a game to overcome this.

What happened?

Didn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.

Am I right in thinking that fir it to be a red, there has to be some recklessness involved?

Random1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:03 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:50 pm

What happened?

Didn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.

Am I right in thinking that fir it to be a red, there has to be some recklessness involved?

No. Not anymore

Random1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:03 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:50 pm

What happened?

Didn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.

Am I right in thinking that fir it to be a red, there has to be some recklessness involved?

No, the key requirements are contact with the head and degree of danger (framework set out below);



In this case the tackle met all the requirements for a red card, and the ref and TMO decided that there weren’t any mitigating factors that might reduce it to a yellow.

So many forwards from the ST

thanks guys.

Don't worry. Toulouse will still lose.

Well, well. Another head on head, this time from Toulouse and with considerably more force than Umaga.

That's pretty much identical

Oh fuck off

Yeah, Barbeary didn't drop significantly before the contact. Nonsense level of consistency.

This sums up Ntamack. In a game against 14, you need a FH who can manage a game but he, like Russell, can only play by instinct.

You cunts, no one told me this was on C4!

Ramos is the new Poitrenaud.

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:41 pm You cunts, no one told me this was on C4!

Never mind, you can see Benetton v Dragons on S4C in a minute.

Wahey

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:19 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:53 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:39 pm

Toulouse has been a one man side this season. And that man is not playing. Did you watch the game v Cardiff D?

I did, but otherwise decent French teams having an off day in the UK when the weather's shit or they're considered favourites is hardly unusual.

Besides, my prediction is more about the sorry state of Wasps than Toulouse's merits.

Same Wasps which defeated Prem leaders last week?

Errrr..... suggest I know more about T14 sides then you do about Prem ones.

This is comfortably the best Wasps have played all season, even better than last week.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:48 pm This is comfortably the best Wasps have played all season, even better than last week.

Yup

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:48 pm This is comfortably the best Wasps have played all season, even better than last week.

Seriously.


Toulouse have relied so much on Dupont, it's unreal. It's not a stretch to suggest they could have lost to Cardiff D if Dupont did not come up with a one man show.

Damn. That would have been fitting if Merde-ard had given the game away for certain with that. Another clown who should retire.

Torq a) are you now watching this and b) have you seen much of wasps this season?



Jesus, just too hard

It feels wrong that a near try opportunity like that ends up with a scrum inside our half.

The amount of moaning and appealing to the ref is outrageous from Wasps

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:51 pm Torq a) are you now watching this and b) have you seen much of wasps this season?



Jesus, just too hard

Yes. Have switched over now. Have only seen bits of Wasps but have seen a helluva a lot of Toulouse. Saw Wasps last week and was way better than what I've seen from the Red men. Doesn't really matter because the result bears out what I said before the game started. Even if somehow Toulouse wins this, they've looked sh*te against 14 men. All the talking down of Wasps was either ill informed in the context of this game or mocker-godding.

PS Part of the reason I didn't bother watching at the start was because I expected this. Only switched over because nothing else on.

As an aside, anyone who thinks Jelonch is in the same league as Macalou is cuckoo.

Healey is right - not going for the try here is mad

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:03 pm Healey is right - not going for the try here is mad

I don't think we're all that interest in Europe this season tbh. There's still plenty to do in the Prem and our butcher's bill has only extended after this game (Willis and Cruse look set to be out and Umaga will surely cop a ban).

I'll happily take that. I like the way our season is going. The last 2 games have been so much better than anything earlier in the season.

I've never really heard barbeary talk before. Do we prefer forwards with a lisp?

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:09 pm I'll happily take that. I like the way our season is going. The last 2 games have been so much better than anything earlier in the season.

HH, did you know a guy called Micky Ireland when you were at the club?

Did he have teeth before the head tackle?

Random1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:11 pm Did he have teeth before the head tackle?

Nah, they've been missing for a while. Walking ad for gumshields that lad.