NPR

BTW, this is why Toulouse is not getting any RWC games.

Saints are so blunt. Earlier in the season they were producing some great moments in attack, even if they did go hand in hand with defensive fragility.

Prembore wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:47 pm Saints are so blunt. Earlier in the season they were producing some great moments in attack, even if they did go hand in hand with defensive fragility.

They are making the same mistake as Bristol: thinking the laws of the game will permit you to succeed without any physical presence.

Getting close to embarrassing margin now.

Ross handed off by Ntmack

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:24 pm

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:55 pm Ramos has an off day, lot of bad decisions.

Ref basher?

Ramos is the Toulouse fullback, not the ref.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:50 pm

Prembore wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:47 pm Saints are so blunt. Earlier in the season they were producing some great moments in attack, even if they did go hand in hand with defensive fragility.

They are making the same mistake as Bristol: thinking the laws of the game will permit you to succeed without any physical presence.

In general you might be right but they've just spent about twenty minutes in possession in the Munster half and even a smidgeon of creativity would have seen them score.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:54 pm Ross handed off by Ntmack

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:24 pm

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:55 pm Ramos has an off day, lot of bad decisions.

Ref basher?

Ramos is the Toulouse fullback, not the ref.

He wouldn't know the difference

Prembore wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:55 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:50 pm

Prembore wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:47 pm Saints are so blunt. Earlier in the season they were producing some great moments in attack, even if they did go hand in hand with defensive fragility.

They are making the same mistake as Bristol: thinking the laws of the game will permit you to succeed without any physical presence.

In general you might be right but they've just spent about twenty minutes in possession in the Munster half and even a smidgeon of creativity would have seen them score.

They were clueless.

SaintK wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:57 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:54 pm Ross handed off by Ntmack

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:24 pm
Ref basher?

Ramos is the Toulouse fullback, not the ref.

He wouldn't know the difference

Absolutely mad ending to the game. McGuigan maybe knocks the ball on in the act of scoring, Toulouse and Sale packs start fighting and a few Toulouse players not involved in the melee go from behind their own posts to score!

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:00 pm Absolutely mad ending to the game. McGuigan maybe knocks the ball on in the act of scoring, Toulouse and Sale packs start fighting and a few Toulouse players not involved in the melee go from behind their own posts to score!

Might be 14 pt swing back the other way

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:55 pm Ramos has an off day, lot of bad decisions.

Ramos ruins try of the season

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:02 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:00 pm Absolutely mad ending to the game. McGuigan maybe knocks the ball on in the act of scoring, Toulouse and Sale packs start fighting and a few Toulouse players not involved in the melee go from behind their own posts to score!

Might be 14 pt swing back the other way

In fact it's nothing for anyone!

Gotta say, if Ramos is being done for the 'headbutt' then someone from Sale should be done for making contact with the eye area. There was clearly a hand being shoved over his eyes.

Was stupid by Ramos, how bad is Rob Dupreez?

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:05 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:02 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:00 pm Absolutely mad ending to the game. McGuigan maybe knocks the ball on in the act of scoring, Toulouse and Sale packs start fighting and a few Toulouse players not involved in the melee go from behind their own posts to score!

Might be 14 pt swing back the other way

In fact it's nothing for anyone!

Gotta say, if Ramos is being done for the 'headbutt' then someone from Sale should be done for making contact with the eye area. There was clearly a hand being shoved over his eyes.

Agreed on the latter but it is a 14 pt swing.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:07 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:05 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:02 pm

Might be 14 pt swing back the other way

In fact it's nothing for anyone!

Gotta say, if Ramos is being done for the 'headbutt' then someone from Sale should be done for making contact with the eye area. There was clearly a hand being shoved over his eyes.

Agreed on the latter but it is a 14 pt swing.

I was premature, hit submit before Sale restarted with their penalty.

Flat track bullies Sale getting bullied by Toulouse. Sale have nothing behind the pack and have no imagination or guile in the backs from 9 out.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:05 pm

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:55 pm Ramos has an off day, lot of bad decisions.

Ramos ruins try of the season

and my post was at the half time …….. and accurate until the end .

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:06 pm Was stupid by Ramos, how bad is Rob Dupreez?

He's been excellent this season, funnily enough.

dpedin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:08 pm Flat track bullies Sale getting bullied by Toulouse. Sale have nothing behind the pack and have no imagination or guile in the backs from 9 out.

It's a _bit_ harsh. Their preferred team probably includes their best backrower and not Jono Ross, plus Quirke at 9, Tuilagi in midfield, Roebuck in the back three, etc, and that's before you even mention George Ford. Accept they are brute force team more than most and certainly Sanderson doesn't seem to be a coach that can manage a team that doesn't have physical superiority.

Plus Toulouse are a ridiculously stacked squad tbh.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:43 pm

dpedin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:08 pm Flat track bullies Sale getting bullied by Toulouse. Sale have nothing behind the pack and have no imagination or guile in the backs from 9 out.

It's a _bit_ harsh. Their preferred team probably includes their best backrower and not Jono Ross, plus Quirke at 9, Tuilagi in midfield, Roebuck in the back three, etc, and that's before you even mention George Ford. Accept they are brute force team more than most and certainly Sanderson doesn't seem to be a coach that can manage a team that doesn't have physical superiority.

Plus Toulouse are a ridiculously stacked squad tbh.

Bolded bit is something some of us have been questioning given the budget restrictions.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:07 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:11 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:44 am

Minor offense,? Oh vok you acknowledge the offense well done stupid doos!

Do you even understand what it is people think is surprising about the call?

Why are you like this?

Wife Beater maybe?

Definitely not. He is celebrating his Stormers victory. Just ignore him

40m hooker score!

Russell burned by the Quins hooker, how emarassing.

Conditions have definitely turned this into the opposite type of game you'd expect from these two sides.

Quins really need to build some sort of lead they can defend because no idea why, but Racing have many starters on the bench (Chat, Nyakane, Sanconnie, Chouzenoux) and you'd think they will get better with that lot on.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:05 pm Quins really need to build some sort of lead they can defend because no idea why, but Racing have many starters on the bench (Chat, Nyakane, Sanconnie, Chouzenoux) and you'd think they will get better with that lot on.

Comms mentioned that Chat is due to illness during the week, presumably the others are punished for last week?

Another non-sellout, tournament in real trouble

Sards wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:07 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:07 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:11 am

Do you even understand what it is people think is surprising about the call?

Why are you like this?

Wife Beater maybe?

Definitely not. He is celebrating his Stormers victory. Just ignore him

You would know. What a vokking disappointment you are.

That was more lively from Quins, even if it looked a bit more by accident than design.

Definite red

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:44 pmDefinite red

Yep, can't believe Dayglo's even trying to talk it down.

Quins not doing much with the additional man, but their defence has been very committed today.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:45 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:44 pmDefinite red

Yep, can't believe Dayglo's even trying to talk it down.

He usually does unfortunately

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:10 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:45 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:44 pmDefinite red

Yep, can't believe Dayglo's even trying to talk it down.

He usually does unfortunately

True and that's on top of him muddling players's names with greater frequency than one should when being paid not to plus generally rubbish punditry. Needs to be put out to pasture really.

Ref made a right pigs ear at the end there, he blew for a knock-on but the ball is still live and Racing were all over him to get the turnover. If he holds on then it's a penalty.

To be fair, he blew the whistle long before anyone got near Allen, who stopped playing when it went.

Good win in tough conditions against a very big team.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:33 pm To be fair, he blew the whistle long before anyone got near Allen, who stopped playing when it went.

Good win in tough conditions against a very big team.

Yes, blowing the whistle was a mistake. And Allen was screwed as all his teammates were in front of him. I don't think it would have changed the result but I think the ref knew he'd screwed up.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:51 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:33 pm To be fair, he blew the whistle long before anyone got near Allen, who stopped playing when it went.

Good win in tough conditions against a very big team.

Yes, blowing the whistle was a mistake. And Allen was screwed as all his teammates were in front of him. I don't think it would have changed the result but I think the ref knew he'd screwed up.

More ref bashing.