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Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:34 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:31 pm Bimbo, if you have a point to make, make it.

Don't just shit the bed with a mindless focus on irrelevancies.

I made my point very clearly. Your idea that Trump wants a war for personal profit is silly.

Christ!

That isn't the point of the post.

Whether Trump can make a profit from war has no bearing on the point that I was making, but since you are determined to sidetrack the conversation over a complete irrelevancy it would not surprise me if he could even if, as you seem to be claiming, his sole avenue for revenue is Real Estate and I have been misinformed of his ventures into Airlines, Alcohol, Casinos, Meat and Higher Learning.

especially if he thinks he can make money out of it.

ESPECIALLY......


But nothing to do with the point you were making!

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:05 am It's a long read so I'll just post the link but a great piece on the decline of the USA.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... s-1038206/

On another note, I read yesterday that there isn't one US lawmaker in the Senate or Congress that says they are an atheist. The only recent chap who questioned religion got voted out at the next election. That's quite mad.

Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace, making it, as he wrote, “the most warlike nation in the history of the world.” Since 2001, the U.S. has spent over $6 trillion on military operations and war, money that might have been invested in the infrastructure of home. China, meanwhile, built its nation, pouring more cement every three years than America did in the entire 20th century.

UK not too far behind either.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:06 pm

especially if he thinks he can make money out of it.

ESPECIALLY......


But nothing to do with the point you were making!

None of that makes sense.

If he could make money out of it, surely that would be an added incentive for him.

It's really not that difficult to understand: I would have thought that would be obvious.

Your point that it wouldn't be possible for him to profit because he deals in Real Estate and has no other revenue streams seems unlikely, too.

In any case, this is a mindless argument going down a silly side-track which has zero bearing on my point which was that Sleepless' discussion about how dangerous Trump would be to World Peace bears examination.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:11 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:06 pm

especially if he thinks he can make money out of it.

ESPECIALLY......


But nothing to do with the point you were making!

None of that makes sense.

If he could make money out of it, surely that would be an added incentive for him.

It's really not that difficult to understand: I would have thought that would be obvious.

Your point that it wouldn't be possible for him to profit because he deals in Real Estate and has no other revenue streams seems unlikely, too.

In any case, this is a mindless argument going down a silly side-track which has zero bearing on my point which was that Sleepless' discussion about how dangerous Trump would be to World Peace bears examination.

It was a mindless argument , that was my point.

Here’s a question for you Rinky, who’s killed more foreign folk using the American military. The dangerous Trump or the peace loving Obama ?

interesting question ; here's another one ; who has created more instability globally leading directly and indirectly to civilian deaths ; Obama or Trump ? consider what he has done/not done in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel/Palestine, free pass to poison pen pal Putin, Kurds ; not to mention domestic terrorism
ps Obama doesn't get a pass either btw especially for standing by on the not so red line on Syria

ticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:45 pm interesting question ; here's another one ; who has created more instability globally leading directly and indirectly to civilian deaths ; Obama or Trump ? consider what he has done/not done in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel/Palestine, free pass to poison pen pal Putin, Kurds ; not to mention domestic terrorism
ps Obama doesn't get a pass either btw especially for standing by on the not so red line on Syria

The UAE - Israel deal in more significant than anything the previous regime managed in the region.

The withdrawal from Iraq was awful.

“We demand the withdrawal of the imperialist America”

“Withdrawal has created chaos”

....

Trumps an idiot, but actually hasn’t caused the deaths previous regimes have.


Domestic terrorism?

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:49 pm
Domestic terrorism?

99% of what we've seen in USA in the last 4 years is more like domestic unrest than terrorism. Doesn't mean it's clever, because we saw less in the 8 years Obama had the conn.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:49 pm
Domestic terrorism?

99% of what we've seen in USA in the last 4 years is more like domestic unrest than terrorism. Doesn't mean it's clever, because we saw less in the 8 years Obama had the conn.

That some people didn’t like an election result has nothing to do with the winner....

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:38 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:49 pm
Domestic terrorism?

99% of what we've seen in USA in the last 4 years is more like domestic unrest than terrorism. Doesn't mean it's clever, because we saw less in the 8 years Obama had the conn.

That some people didn’t like an election result has nothing to do with the winner....

True, but Donny hasn’t stopped winding up the nation ever since. He’s a tool.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:48 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:38 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pm

99% of what we've seen in USA in the last 4 years is more like domestic unrest than terrorism. Doesn't mean it's clever, because we saw less in the 8 years Obama had the conn.

That some people didn’t like an election result has nothing to do with the winner....

True, but Donny hasn’t stopped winding up the nation ever since. He’s a tool.

A massive one. Can you just imagine losing to that!

Indeed, sux to be Hillary.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:49 pm
Domestic terrorism?

99% of what we've seen in USA in the last 4 years is more like domestic unrest than terrorism. Doesn't mean it's clever, because we saw less in the 8 years Obama had the conn.

Trump can hang his hat on the idea the DHS and FBI have been increasingly concerned about the rise of white supremacy as a domestic terrorist threat and wider societal ill but Trump told them to can those concerns and focus on those with a darker skin tone.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:15 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:11 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:06 pm


ESPECIALLY......


But nothing to do with the point you were making!

None of that makes sense.

If he could make money out of it, surely that would be an added incentive for him.

It's really not that difficult to understand: I would have thought that would be obvious.

Your point that it wouldn't be possible for him to profit because he deals in Real Estate and has no other revenue streams seems unlikely, too.

In any case, this is a mindless argument going down a silly side-track which has zero bearing on my point which was that Sleepless' discussion about how dangerous Trump would be to World Peace bears examination.

It was a mindless argument , that was my point.

Here’s a question for you Rinky, who’s killed more foreign folk using the American military. The dangerous Trump or the peace loving Obama ?

Totally irrelevant.

I made the point (which you have purposefully ignored) that it may be that Trump's very volatility might well be cause for some restraint from Xi and the CPP precisely because his unpredictable, erratic and irrational behaviour means that they cannot rely on a logical response to their divers land grabs.

My point was not about who was the more blood-thirsty and dangerous President, but about whether Trump would be inclined to exhaust all diplomatic avenues before embarking on a conflict, and I'm inclined to doubt that he would, particularly if his own self-interests were at stake.

You might be happy to concur with his own view that he is a very stable genius, but I'm afraid that I don't really regard him as such.

Yep, he’s ganna boss it.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:50 pm


Yep, he’s ganna boss it.

And yet he still made more sense than any Trump statement

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:54 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:50 pm


Yep, he’s ganna boss it.

And yet he still made more sense than any Trump statement

Yep, keep on bossing it.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:41 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:54 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:50 pm


Yep, he’s ganna boss it.

And yet he still made more sense than any Trump statement

Yep, keep on bossing it.

I don't even know what that means

What a piece of shit.

Kathryn Ryan did an excellent interview with nasty niece Mary on RNZ this morning. Well worth a listen if you've got a spare half hour or so.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018762054

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 am What a piece of shit.

I would assume he's intentionally trolling George Floyd's family each time he says 'people choke', you stay classy Donny

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 am What a piece of shit.

But But But... the other guy stumbled over his words (then immediately corrected himself)!!

so you know "bossing it"

You know it's bad when a Fox News journalist attempts an intervention on your behalf.

Especially that Fox News "journalist"

Chareth Cutestory wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:55 am

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 am What a piece of shit.

But But But... the other guy stumbled over his words (then immediately corrected himself)!!

so you know "bossing it"

Immediately corrected himself.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:18 pm You know it's bad when a Fox News journalist attempts an intervention on your behalf.

"Because you know what the media will say" - from the "journalist"

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:57 pm

Chareth Cutestory wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:55 am

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 am What a piece of shit.

But But But... the other guy stumbled over his words (then immediately corrected himself)!!

so you know "bossing it"

Immediately corrected himself.

I guess he didn't have a Fox News "journalist" there to bail him out quick enough

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:57 pm

Chareth Cutestory wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:55 am

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 am What a piece of shit.

But But But... the other guy stumbled over his words (then immediately corrected himself)!!

so you know "bossing it"

Immediately corrected himself.

Bimbo, in the interests of seeing where you stand in this, can I take it that you acknowledge that Trump is not an ideal President, but you think that Biden would be worse?

Obviously - because Biden is a socialist commie who wants to watch the cities burn and wants to kill suburban women via the medium of low income housing and police defunding.

Correct. Trump may be a corrupt senile degenerate, but he's OUR corrupt senile degenerate.

Biden wants to raise taxes on the rich and take away our gunz.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:28 am Correct. Trump may be a corrupt senile degenerate, but he's OUR corrupt senile degenerate.

Biden wants to raise taxes on the rich and take away our gunz.

And our soup!

They are flying in looters and thugs on planes!!!

Watch your backs suburban housewives, the shadow demons are sending their minions to get you.

They are in league with the King of Antifa, who is paying the foot soldier's airfare and new wardrobe of dark clothes

The weird thing is that he still has supporters who think he's a good President.

Well, maybe not supporters, but people who think that he's better than what Biden would be.

At least he can speak without a stutter. And ride on a golf cart. And walk down an incline without falling over. And drink a glass of water without assistance.

In has latest interview on a North Carolinan TV station, WET-TV, Donald encouraged ALL North Carolinans to vote twice, once by mail, and once in person. His justification for this was that if the system works, it will prevent one of the votes from being counted.

Problem is in North Carolina (as with virtually everywhere in the US) voting twice is a criminal offence. When asked about it, William BARR told CNN that Trump was trying to make a point, and subsequently said he didn't know that voting twice in NC was illegal!

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:38 am In has latest interview on a North Carolinan TV station, WET-TV, Donald encouraged ALL North Carolinans to vote twice, once by mail, and once in person. His justification for this was that if the system works, it will prevent one of the votes from being counted.

Problem is in North Carolina (as with virtually everywhere in the US) voting twice is a criminal offence. When asked about it, William BARR told CNN that Trump was trying to make a point, and subsequently said he didn't know that voting twice in NC was illegal!

This reminds me of the time they requested Russian interference.

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:38 am In has latest interview on a North Carolinan TV station, WET-TV, Donald encouraged ALL North Carolinans to vote twice, once by mail, and once in person. His justification for this was that if the system works, it will prevent one of the votes from being counted.

Problem is in North Carolina (as with virtually everywhere in the US) voting twice is a criminal offence. When asked about it, William BARR told CNN that Trump was trying to make a point, and subsequently said he didn't know that voting twice in NC was illegal!

Probably giving the orange moron too much credit but that would play straight into his message of postal votes being rigged and fraudulent. A load of postal votes being exclude from the results. He’d bang on about that until the end of days.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:01 am

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:38 am In has latest interview on a North Carolinan TV station, WET-TV, Donald encouraged ALL North Carolinans to vote twice, once by mail, and once in person. His justification for this was that if the system works, it will prevent one of the votes from being counted.

Problem is in North Carolina (as with virtually everywhere in the US) voting twice is a criminal offence. When asked about it, William BARR told CNN that Trump was trying to make a point, and subsequently said he didn't know that voting twice in NC was illegal!

Probably giving the orange moron too much credit but that would play straight into his message of postal votes being rigged and fraudulent. A load of postal votes being exclude from the results. He’d bang on about that until the end of days.

They record the Party the voter is trying to cheat for.

That was one of the embarrassing parts of his "investigation" into voter fraud; they found that it was almost entirely by GOP voters

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:19 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:01 am

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:38 am In has latest interview on a North Carolinan TV station, WET-TV, Donald encouraged ALL North Carolinans to vote twice, once by mail, and once in person. His justification for this was that if the system works, it will prevent one of the votes from being counted.

Problem is in North Carolina (as with virtually everywhere in the US) voting twice is a criminal offence. When asked about it, William BARR told CNN that Trump was trying to make a point, and subsequently said he didn't know that voting twice in NC was illegal!

Probably giving the orange moron too much credit but that would play straight into his message of postal votes being rigged and fraudulent. A load of postal votes being exclude from the results. He’d bang on about that until the end of days.

They record the Party the voter is trying to cheat for.

That was one of the embarrassing parts of his "investigation" into voter fraud; they found that it was almost entirely by GOP voters

Though at a time when the Dems are working hard to deny the Greens a place on the ballot there is something of a plague about all their houses

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:48 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:38 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pm

99% of what we've seen in USA in the last 4 years is more like domestic unrest than terrorism. Doesn't mean it's clever, because we saw less in the 8 years Obama had the conn.

That some people didn’t like an election result has nothing to do with the winner....

True, but Donny hasn’t stopped winding up the nation ever since. He’s a tool.

As a blanket statement, I disagree. It may in fact have everything to do with the winner.

So, in the latest round of "What kind of repugnant, messed-up shit does Trump have to do before he gets completely rejected?" he has played a blinder! Slagging off the US military!