Was it the first word in the bio that gave it away?
Stop voting for fucking Tories
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“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
You didn’t quote the bio
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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May turned up to vote wearing a Ball Gown
What would be the best outcome? Something tight like 170 to 190.
If there 130 ish against him he is basically dead man walking. That’s the way the tories like their coups…… whispered conversations from shadowy figures in suits.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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He wins by a single vote; & then they fight like rats in a sack for the next few months, until the 1922 Committee changes the rules to allow another vote.
Of course it's not really good for anyone, because in the meanwhile, he'll be focused on knifing potential challengers on the back, & not on the cost of living crisis, etc, etc, etc
Ah ok, so much for the secret ballot. You’d have to choose your friends carefully.
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I can see it being close - there's c160 Tories publically supporting him (less than May had and she has a smaller party). And why wouldn't you publically support a man who rewards sycophants above all? Some of them are apparently lying and it's a secret ballot.
Think he might actually lose - earlier today I was sure he wouldn't but the vibe from the politicos seems like he could actually lose.
I find that hard to imagine. Only because I assume that it’s only now that 54 letters have been put in. Are there another 130 waiting on the sidelines?I like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:36 pmI can see it being close - there's c160 Tories publically supporting him (less than May had and she has a smaller party). And why wouldn't you publically support a man who rewards sycophants above all? Some of them are apparently lying and it's a secret ballot.
Think he might actually lose - earlier today I was sure he wouldn't but the vibe from the politicos seems like he could actually lose.
I agree actuallyI like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:36 pmI can see it being close - there's c160 Tories publically supporting him (less than May had and she has a smaller party). And why wouldn't you publically support a man who rewards sycophants above all? Some of them are apparently lying and it's a secret ballot.
Think he might actually lose - earlier today I was sure he wouldn't but the vibe from the politicos seems like he could actually lose.
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It's clear it wasn't an organised coordinated letters in effort otherwise they'd wait until the Tories are panned in the bi-elections or standards committee and presumably have a resignation or so. Seems that people just got really annoyed - which seems worse.GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:41 pmI find that hard to imagine. Only because I assume that it’s only now that 54 letters have been put in. Are there another 130 waiting on the sidelines?I like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:36 pmI can see it being close - there's c160 Tories publically supporting him (less than May had and she has a smaller party). And why wouldn't you publically support a man who rewards sycophants above all? Some of them are apparently lying and it's a secret ballot.
Think he might actually lose - earlier today I was sure he wouldn't but the vibe from the politicos seems like he could actually lose.
Think of the May no confidence - very publically organised by Moggy, Baker and co.
Yes . but only for today . If they follow form,I expect that tomorrow they will be fully behind Joris
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Lager & Lime - we don't do cocktails
How many of those supporting him actually like him?Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:43 pmI agree actuallyI like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:36 pmI can see it being close - there's c160 Tories publically supporting him (less than May had and she has a smaller party). And why wouldn't you publically support a man who rewards sycophants above all? Some of them are apparently lying and it's a secret ballot.
Think he might actually lose - earlier today I was sure he wouldn't but the vibe from the politicos seems like he could actually lose.
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There isn't one spine between the lot of them.
They'd happily complete a human centipede with the Bumblecunt
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I'm an optimistfishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:08 pmAre you high ?
This has bugger all to do with morality, & is almost entirely down to a Ferrel sense of self-preservation
I'm sure many are just trying to save their own and their party's future.
But I think there are some who believe that Boris has pushed the boundaries of what is acceptable in politics, and that would have weighed into their decision. See the arguments in the Herefordshire MP's letter.
Either way, the 'rebels' are many IQ points ahead of the likes of Dorries who'll jump in the fire to save Boris's wallpaper.
Over the hills and far away........
Came in above all out picks other than the pick by, I like neeps.
The next 6 months is going to be big for him. His first challenge is the privileges committee, and if that ends up in a parliamentary vote on a punishment which qualifies for a constituency recall. If there's 50 committed rebels they could use that as leverage to change the 1922 rules, which is more likely than them potentially voting with Labour/SNP/Lib Dems to create a situation where Johnson could face a by election for his seat.
The next 6 months is going to be big for him. His first challenge is the privileges committee, and if that ends up in a parliamentary vote on a punishment which qualifies for a constituency recall. If there's 50 committed rebels they could use that as leverage to change the 1922 rules, which is more likely than them potentially voting with Labour/SNP/Lib Dems to create a situation where Johnson could face a by election for his seat.
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A delicious few months of infighting to go. They'll change the rules to oust him. He's like a barnacle on Chernobyl.
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They still happily trotted thru the lobbies to vote for removing peoples right to protest, supported breaking International Law, sending refugees to Rwanda, etc, etc, etcsalanya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:15 pmI'm an optimistfishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:08 pmAre you high ?
This has bugger all to do with morality, & is almost entirely down to a Ferrel sense of self-preservation
I'm sure many are just trying to save their own and their party's future.
But I think there are some who believe that Boris has pushed the boundaries of what is acceptable in politics, and that would have weighed into their decision. See the arguments in the Herefordshire MP's letter.
Either way, the 'rebels' are many IQ points ahead of the likes of Dorries who'll jump in the fire to save Boris's wallpaper.
They've debased themselves for years, if they want to me to consider them as anything but scum, they need to demonstrate their morality in tangible fashion
I didn't say they all turned into Mother Theresa overnight!fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:27 pmThey still happily trotted thru the lobbies to vote for removing peoples right to protest, supported breaking International Law, sending refugees to Rwanda, etc, etc, etcsalanya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:15 pmI'm an optimistfishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:08 pm
Are you high ?
This has bugger all to do with morality, & is almost entirely down to a Ferrel sense of self-preservation
I'm sure many are just trying to save their own and their party's future.
But I think there are some who believe that Boris has pushed the boundaries of what is acceptable in politics, and that would have weighed into their decision. See the arguments in the Herefordshire MP's letter.
Either way, the 'rebels' are many IQ points ahead of the likes of Dorries who'll jump in the fire to save Boris's wallpaper.
They've debased themselves for years, if they want to me to consider them as anything but scum, they need to demonstrate their morality in tangible fashion
Many Tories are selfish and entitled, and a good few of them are indeed of a scummy nature - the cabinet members seem to have been chosen for that quality and have then pushed those scum-levels to another level.
But there are some that are conservative politicians who I may disagree with, but that aren't of the same ilk as Nadine, Rees-Mogg, Raab and Patel. Some even objected to Patel's measures, and the attitude towards Brexit and the NI protocol.
I may disagree with them on most things, and not vote for them, but I don't go in for this black-and-white partisan theatre.
In other news: 148 votes against him is a good result according to Boris. He's very pleased.
It's obviously no surprise, but the man has no shame. He doesn't understand the concept of shame.
Over the hills and far away........