NPR

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:59 pm 93 cases, no deaths

Getting ridiculous now

Nobody will break ranks as the deaths will go up at some point as it's winter and people will be all SEE SEEEEEE. I wonder if the Russkies are involved online on this sowing discord. There is a lad on facebag who just repeatedly shites on about shutting down the airports and immigrants and de government. It's on a loop and he has the usual fake profile with actual Russian mates, which I larfed about. I reported it ages ago and facebag said he was A1...

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:29 pm

Leinsterman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:07 pm He sounds a prat. Could they not have used the first day or two back in the school to brief the kids and get them up to speed?
That's what they're doing just up the road.

He's alright really. Just misjudged this but tbf to him I guarantee he would have been hammered by the PA if he didn't do the video

Fair enough. Our PA have stayed well away from it all bar saying "for the love of God, just open in September"
A few of them were more concerned about the planning application beside the convent.

Our PA is a bit ropey

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:13 pm

lilyw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:47 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:48 pm What insurance issue is there? Has their insuranxe company changed their terms and conditions? The principal is making a presumptive diagnosis that they aren’t qualified to make. The person who is qualified is saying that it’s unlikely to be Covid. We need some common sense to get the country moving not arse covering.

So the doctor can cover his arse by saying "unlikely" but the principal has to make a definitive decision affecting the health of every other child in the school & his staff. The doctor is paid to make a judgement - let him make one.

That’s not arse covering. That’s using his clinical experience to give an informed opinion. It’s not black and white, even a covid test is not 100% accurate. Making a child who is unlikely to have Covid undergo a test just to satisfy the over cautious approach of the principal is clearly an unreasonable position as if it became commonplace in all our schools then our schools system would see huge levels of unsustainable absenteeism. I don’t think the principal has the right to exclude this student, or the right to force the student to undergo a covid test when the child’s GP doesn’t feel it is merited.

An "informed opinion" that he is unwilling to commit to paper. Sounds like covering his arse to me.

The principal is in a very difficult position. My daughter had her first day back at her school today. Already 2 teachers have been told by the HSE to go home & self-isolate for 14 days because 2 pupils have tested positive. He will have to err on the side of caution in every future case - otherwise he will have a skeleton staff. I can fully see where this principal is coming from - if the medical opinion is unclear then he has to act to maximise his staff availability.

Not mine, pulled from another chat room

Looking for recommendation for a carpenter, a friend of mine who works in Dail Eireann says the cabinet in there is falling apart, no need to bring tools as the place is full of them

30 in hospital, 5 in ICU and 3 being ventilated.

So a slight increase.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/ne ... t-2020.pdf

HKL said

"So my sister in law sent her 6 year old back to school today. within an hour the school phoned to say he had a cough and needed to go home (cough is related to an issue from a few months ago and not Covid).

They phoned the doctor who confirmed that it was unlikely to be Covid and he should attend school. however he would not provide a note stating this. they phoned the school and said that the doctor was willing to speak to the principal if they phoned but could/would not provide a note. principal refused to phone and said child would not be allowed back without a doctors note."

I received an e-mail from my offspring's primary school today. It had attached a document from the HSE, outlining various procedures to be followed regarding infection control in schools.

I'll quote verbatim.

Heading: When it’s okay to send your child to school or childcare


It’s usually okay to send your child to school or childcare if they:

• have been told by a GP that their illness is caused by something else, that is not coronavirus.
Your GP will tell you when they can return to school or childcare

/ends.

This is official HSE advice/guidance.

Nothing about written guarantees etc.

Principal needs to be spoke to, he may have other instructions?

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:40 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:59 pm 93 cases, no deaths

Getting ridiculous now

Nobody will break ranks as the deaths will go up at some point as it's winter and people will be all SEE SEEEEEE. I wonder if the Russkies are involved online on this sowing discord. There is a lad on facebag who just repeatedly shites on about shutting down the airports and immigrants and de government. It's on a loop and he has the usual fake profile with actual Russian mates, which I larfed about. I reported it ages ago and facebag said he was A1...

But if the data from the whole world shows it is over, then you will be a sheep to continue an unnecessary lockdown ... deaths from Covid are flat across Europe, what would population immunity look like to you as test cases continue to spiral ? BONKERS !

Why have people changed their logins from PR

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:23 am Why have people changed their logins from PR

eh?

Me for example. Just wanted to be even more anonymous as there are weirdos out there. Botha touches on it with his sheep comment. There are now perceived wisdoms that aren't up for debate and if you do try and debate it e.g. Covid response, you are savaged. The usual response I get is 'did you enjoy your day out with Jim Corr' blahdy blah. It's not worth putting your head above the parapet as something as simple as saying I think we are making mistakes re Covid has you pigeon holed as a right wing nutter. I am not a right wing nutter.

The Covid pandemic has claimed the last great bastion of rural Irish society. The National Ploughing championships are gone.

You've go to feel for heroes like Gunty McGinnon who was going for a record breaking 10th year in a row of the welly fecking competion and Jarlath O'fleathacain in the sheep worrying relay

Poor Gunty and his arthritis is getting the better of him.
Private bus provider brings the kids in Lucan to Leixlip for school. Sizeable enough group. Anyway he has cancelled them as he can't afford to run it at 50% capacity.

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:13 am Poor Gunty and his arthritis is getting the better of him.
Private bus provider brings the kids in Lucan to Leixlip for school. Sizeable enough group. Anyway he has cancelled them as he can't afford to run it at 50% capacity.

I'd imagine there will be a lot of similar issues. Glad I am still working from home and wont have to deal with the traffic mess this will cause

He left it a bit late though which was a prickish thing to do. Might have been asking Dept of Ed for help and was told to swing for it.

I actually don't know why the schools went to such bother with pods etc.

I was in Naas at lunchtime - the kids from 3 of the secondary schools in town were hanging around in groups, no masks, no social distancing, complete mixing between different schools. It makes a farce of all of the work being done within the school boundaries.

The parents need to take responsibility.

Nice bit of fraud.

https://independent.ie/irish-news/educa ... 85911.html

Flametop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:08 pm Nice bit of fraud.

https://independent.ie/irish-news/educa ... 85911.html

That's real nasty carry on. Do they get to just walk away ? It's not the money, the kids have to find schools now to take them and at the last absolute second as well. Wonder what Norma will do

lilyw wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:26 pm I actually don't know why the schools went to such bother with pods etc.

I was in Naas at lunchtime - the kids from 3 of the secondary schools in town were hanging around in groups, no masks, no social distancing, complete mixing between different schools. It makes a farce of all of the work being done within the school boundaries.

The parents need to take responsibility.

The kids have been running around the streets playing with each other for ~ 2 months. And they will do the same this evening/weekend. Any wave of sickness amongst the kids ? Won't they have spread it to each other ? And then given it to granny back at home ? No, not from the figures.

So the virtue signalling pods and unidirectional flow marked up in schools are pointless. They are just a sop to the anxious that they are providing a degree of control over the spread of virus.

Norway's school went back in May. Completely normal with no extra measures and no wave of Covid sickness as a result.

The incidence of kids getting Covid sickness globally is tiny. Nearly always have a pre-existing sickness if there is a case. Telegraph reporting on this today.

The measures are nonsense and are to appease the unions. The teachers will get bored managing them and in time they will fade. Not this year but probably during next. The problem will be the more autocratic amongst us will have got a feel for controlling diseases and will be pushing for this shit every flu season

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:23 pm The measures are nonsense and are to appease the unions. The teachers will get bored managing them and in time they will fade. Not this year but probably during next. The problem will be the more autocratic amongst us will have got a feel for controlling diseases and will be pushing for this shit every flu season

To quote the great man, "one day it will all magically go away ... "

It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

as the final coup de grace in signing 2020 off as one of the sh1ttest years in memory ; the US is like some fcuked up 3rd world country these days ; taking a knee etc is one thing but with the NBA finals, MLB etc postponed etc is a sign of how fcuked up things are beyond the riots in the streets ; there's a lot of $$$ at stake

Coming to the end of a much needed holiday and some observations:
1. Fair few GB reg cars and campervans around the South West of the country. We were keeping our distance from the family who amiably told us they got off the ferry two days previously.
2. Lot of complaints about price gouging in Killarney with food and accommodation. This could be alleviated if folk had a bit more imagination and travelled to places other than Killarney that are crying out for business.
3. Traffic in the tourist hotspots. See no 2.
4. Mask compliance in shops really good. Not many dickheads left now.

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

The deaths thing is interesting.
Doubt we'll get the full story on why Italy fared so much worse until we get more data after the fact but them being mad smokers is bound to have an impact.

Also, maybe we're not actually as unhealthy as we suppose we are.

Botha Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:13 pm

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:40 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Getting ridiculous now

Nobody will break ranks as the deaths will go up at some point as it's winter and people will be all SEE SEEEEEE. I wonder if the Russkies are involved online on this sowing discord. There is a lad on facebag who just repeatedly shites on about shutting down the airports and immigrants and de government. It's on a loop and he has the usual fake profile with actual Russian mates, which I larfed about. I reported it ages ago and facebag said he was A1...

But if the data from the whole world shows it is over, then you will be a sheep to continue an unnecessary lockdown ... deaths from Covid are flat across Europe, what would population immunity look like to you as test cases continue to spiral ? BONKERS !

Saw your earlier posts. Think you're overly focusing on the deaths figure alone. There's some nasty effects from this virus aside from the respiratory effects that are only starting to become apparent now.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:16 pm

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

The deaths thing is interesting.
Doubt we'll get the full story on why Italy fared so much worse until we get more data after the fact but them being mad smokers is bound to have an impact.

Also, maybe we're not actually as unhealthy as we suppose we are.

We have more separation of generations.

Article I read earlier is that hospitalisations in Ireland are currently in line with stats from the start here, once you actually look at the demographics. We're seeing fewer deaths and serious cases because treatment has improved. The worry is it'll get back into the at risk group.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:25 pm

Botha Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:13 pm

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:40 pm

Nobody will break ranks as the deaths will go up at some point as it's winter and people will be all SEE SEEEEEE. I wonder if the Russkies are involved online on this sowing discord. There is a lad on facebag who just repeatedly shites on about shutting down the airports and immigrants and de government. It's on a loop and he has the usual fake profile with actual Russian mates, which I larfed about. I reported it ages ago and facebag said he was A1...

But if the data from the whole world shows it is over, then you will be a sheep to continue an unnecessary lockdown ... deaths from Covid are flat across Europe, what would population immunity look like to you as test cases continue to spiral ? BONKERS !

Saw your earlier posts. Think you're overly focusing on the deaths figure alone. There's some nasty effects from this virus aside from the respiratory effects that are only starting to become apparent now.

Yeah we don’t shut down an entire country for them either.

CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:43 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:16 pm

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

The deaths thing is interesting.
Doubt we'll get the full story on why Italy fared so much worse until we get more data after the fact but them being mad smokers is bound to have an impact.

Also, maybe we're not actually as unhealthy as we suppose we are.

We have more separation of generations.

Article I read earlier is that hospitalisations in Ireland are currently in line with stats from the start here, once you actually look at the demographics. We're seeing fewer deaths and serious cases because treatment has improved. The worry is it'll get back into the at risk group.

True enough.
And everybody else in Europe had more warning than the Italians got.

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

I somehow doubt this.

The US still spends multiples of what the UK or other countries spend per citizen on healthcare; & they get outcomes like this:

A major poultry producer — ordered shut down by local authorities in California in the wake of a deadly coronavirus outbreak — on Friday said its procedures should be sufficient to protect employees.

At least 358 workers at the Foster Farms plant in Livingston have tested positive for coronavirus — and eight have died — prompting the Merced County Department of Health to order it temporarily closed, officials said.

358 Positive cases, & 8 Deaths ????

I don't believe the 358 cases is accurate; but its very hard to argue with eight dead people; & the average age of people working in a chicken factory is low.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:51 pm

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

I somehow doubt this.

The US still spends multiples of what the UK or other countries spend per citizen on healthcare; & they get outcomes like this:

A major poultry producer — ordered shut down by local authorities in California in the wake of a deadly coronavirus outbreak — on Friday said its procedures should be sufficient to protect employees.

At least 358 workers at the Foster Farms plant in Livingston have tested positive for coronavirus — and eight have died — prompting the Merced County Department of Health to order it temporarily closed, officials said.

358 Positive cases, & 8 Deaths ????

I don't believe the 358 cases is accurate; but its very hard to argue with eight dead people; & the average age of people working in a chicken factory is low.

Is this Forum dead ? Just checking for a friend ...

It's two months away. You would presume it will fall off a cliff there in enough places for him to say 'see I did a great job'.

Botha Boy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:01 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:51 pm

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:34 pm It sort of is here. Fück all cases and fück all deaths. Diseases burn out all the time and Big Don just got his timing a bit off. By November the US will have it under control and he will walk the election.

I somehow doubt this.

The US still spends multiples of what the UK or other countries spend per citizen on healthcare; & they get outcomes like this:

A major poultry producer — ordered shut down by local authorities in California in the wake of a deadly coronavirus outbreak — on Friday said its procedures should be sufficient to protect employees.

At least 358 workers at the Foster Farms plant in Livingston have tested positive for coronavirus — and eight have died — prompting the Merced County Department of Health to order it temporarily closed, officials said.

358 Positive cases, & 8 Deaths ????

I don't believe the 358 cases is accurate; but its very hard to argue with eight dead people; & the average age of people working in a chicken factory is low.

Is this Forum dead ? Just checking for a friend ...

No, just a glitch, probably local ...

GOD finally got herself arrested.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:11 pm GOD finally got herself arrested.

She is ironically saying she will seek sanctuary in a foreign country rather than go to court.

Hopefully somewhere will give her "Asylum" ...

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:40 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:59 pm 93 cases, no deaths

Getting ridiculous now

Nobody will break ranks as the deaths will go up at some point as it's winter and people will be all SEE SEEEEEE. I wonder if the Russkies are involved online on this sowing discord. There is a lad on facebag who just repeatedly shites on about shutting down the airports and immigrants and de government. It's on a loop and he has the usual fake profile with actual Russian mates, which I larfed about. I reported it ages ago and facebag said he was A1...

came across an article from a week back about the russkies surveillance set up in Ireland as its viewed as a soft touch - blocking the planing permission to set up a surveillance centre in the basement of the embassy was well publicised and sniffing around cable networks with the US and tech companies in general ; nothing new there but I was a bit surprised with statements in the article about the Gardaí frequently catching ruskkies up to "clandestine" sh1te ; it didnt give any details about what exactly they were caught doing or fall out - it was Sunday times so I'm assuming they must have some proof

Botha Boy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:17 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:11 pm GOD finally got herself arrested.

She is ironically saying she will seek sanctuary in a foreign country rather than go to court.

Hopefully somewhere will give her "Asylum" ...

seriously ? fcuk off we're full

ticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:37 am

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:40 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Getting ridiculous now

Nobody will break ranks as the deaths will go up at some point as it's winter and people will be all SEE SEEEEEE. I wonder if the Russkies are involved online on this sowing discord. There is a lad on facebag who just repeatedly shites on about shutting down the airports and immigrants and de government. It's on a loop and he has the usual fake profile with actual Russian mates, which I larfed about. I reported it ages ago and facebag said he was A1...

came across an article from a week back about the russkies surveillance set up in Ireland as its viewed as a soft touch - blocking the planing permission to set up a surveillance centre in the basement of the embassy was well publicised and sniffing around cable networks with the US and tech companies in general ; nothing new there but I was a bit surprised with statements in the article about the Gardaí frequently catching ruskkies up to "clandestine" sh1te ; it didnt give any details about what exactly they were caught doing or fall out - it was Sunday times so I'm assuming they must have some proof

As with everything else I'd say the Irish department is tiny but there is no way they are just leaving us alone. You just have to look at the chaos online

Here's a real; "it's an ill wind that blows no good"...

The signs are that China is in the early stages of food shortage; & this is why there's a national campaign against wasting food. The reasons are Covid, (Of Course), but also insect infestation, & climate change.

Hopefully this softens the blow to the Irish Agrifood business, of the No-Deal Brexit.

With a Billion plus consumers; if they can get a foot in the door, & win over some customers with our quality product; it won't take too much to get a foothold, & grow in a huge market.

Just bumping for when PR goes BOOM !