Beeb report was that Vardey could have to pay, up to, 70% of Rooneys costsLobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:14 pmI haven’t seen anything about a costs order yet, but it’s quite possible Vardey will have to pay Rooney’s costs as well her own. As well as trashing her own reputation she could find herself having to pay out a few million in lawyers fees.SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:19 amYep lying through her teeth
Going to cost both of them a fortune in lawyers fees!!!In her ruling, obtained by the PA news agency, Mrs Justice Steyn said it was "likely" that Rebekah Vardy's then-agent, Caroline Watt, "undertook the direct act" of passing the information to The Sun newspaper.
"Nonetheless, the evidence... clearly shows, in my view, that Mrs Vardy knew of and condoned this behaviour, actively engaging in it by directing Ms Watt to the private Instagram account, sending her screenshots of Mrs Rooney's posts, drawing attention to items of potential interest to the press, and answering additional queries raised by the press via Ms Watt," she added.
Mrs Justice Steyn continued: "In my judgment, the conclusions that I have reached as to the extent to which the claimant engaged in disclosing to the Sun information to which she only had access as a permitted follower of an Instagram account which she knew, and Mrs Rooney repeatedly asserted, was private, suffice to show the single meaning is substantially true."
Proceeding with the case and then lying through her teeth throughout the trial demonstrates weapons grade stupidity on her part.
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Steptoe will not be happyfishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:08 pmBeeb report was that Vardey could have to pay, up to, 70% of Rooneys costsLobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:14 pmI haven’t seen anything about a costs order yet, but it’s quite possible Vardey will have to pay Rooney’s costs as well her own. As well as trashing her own reputation she could find herself having to pay out a few million in lawyers fees.
Proceeding with the case and then lying through her teeth throughout the trial demonstrates weapons grade stupidity on her part.
Could be a fair old whack out of his current salary at Leicester. I'm sure they will survive!!!fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:08 pmBeeb report was that Vardey could have to pay, up to, 70% of Rooneys costsLobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:14 pmI haven’t seen anything about a costs order yet, but it’s quite possible Vardey will have to pay Rooney’s costs as well her own. As well as trashing her own reputation she could find herself having to pay out a few million in lawyers fees.
Proceeding with the case and then lying through her teeth throughout the trial demonstrates weapons grade stupidity on her part.
Jamie Vardy signed a 4 year / £29,120,000 contract with Leicester City, including an annual average salary of £7,280,000. In 2022, Vardy will earn a base salary of £7,280,000, while carrying a cap hit of £7,280,000.
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Maybe we'll need a new thread if this kicks off
Interesting. In a bad way. Have US military aircraft never overflown Taiwan before? Or other military been there.
Not a good looking headline for Charles!!!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62366487Prince Charles accepted £1m from Osama Bin Laden's family
TBF the Bin Laden family is huge (over 600 members apparently), and most of them have little or no connection with Osama. The main branch is hugely wealthy and very close to the Saudi Royal Family.SaintK wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:22 am Not a good looking headline for Charles!!!!https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62366487Prince Charles accepted £1m from Osama Bin Laden's family
It seems this donation was handled properly under Charity Law and Charles himself had nothing to do with it. Charley-boy accepting £2.5 million in used fivers in a suitcase is much dodgier than this one.
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Olympic gold medallist Matt Walls was hospitalised after being sent flying over the barriers and into the crowd following a huge crash on day three of the Commonwealth Games track cycling, which also saw spectators hurt.
Walls’ GB team-mate Matt Bostock, a Manx rider, was also caught up in the multi-rider crash, with both athletes being taken by ambulance to hospital alongside Canadian rider Derek Gee. One man in the crowd received treatment for cuts to his arm while a young girl also received minor attention.
ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:24 pmSteptoe will not be happyfishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:08 pmBeeb report was that Vardey could have to pay, up to, 70% of Rooneys costsLobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:14 pm
I haven’t seen anything about a costs order yet, but it’s quite possible Vardey will have to pay Rooney’s costs as well her own. As well as trashing her own reputation she could find herself having to pay out a few million in lawyers fees.
Proceeding with the case and then lying through her teeth throughout the trial demonstrates weapons grade stupidity on her part.
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Meh.Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:41 pm
Olympic gold medallist Matt Walls was hospitalised after being sent flying over the barriers and into the crowd following a huge crash on day three of the Commonwealth Games track cycling, which also saw spectators hurt.
Walls’ GB team-mate Matt Bostock, a Manx rider, was also caught up in the multi-rider crash, with both athletes being taken by ambulance to hospital alongside Canadian rider Derek Gee. One man in the crowd received treatment for cuts to his arm while a young girl also received minor attention.
It's like being ringside at a fight; you should expect to get sprayed with blood, & sweat, & potentially a partially chewed ear or two.
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It has been a while since I saw one, entirely possible that I'm remembering them as a bit grander than they were!
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Watching the Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial........absolutely crazy.
Batshit stuff innit. How do these people get a platform to spout such complete and utter nonsense.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:54 am Watching the Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial........absolutely crazy.
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The parents are asking for $150m in damages, which sounds like a lot, but the vile piece of shits infowars setup brings in $50m a year, from selling survivalist crap, & snake oil to gullible morons; so there's good money in his vile lies.Snooze wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:14 pmBatshit stuff innit. How do these people get a platform to spout such complete and utter nonsense.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:54 am Watching the Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial........absolutely crazy.
It is really hard to think of someone more repulsive. After he was in court he went on his show to insult the parents once more.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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Just need to get #craftywank trending as well
It was, however, brilliant that his dumb lawyers sent all of his text messages for the last two years to the parents' lawyers by mistake, proving that he had lied under oath.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:52 pmHe's pissing the judge of big time too, because he keeps lying on the stand; & ignoring the Judges directions
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I'm wondering if there was an element of 'accidently-on-purpose' to that.Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 amIt was, however, brilliant that his dumb lawyers sent all of his text messages for the last two years to the parents' lawyers by mistake, proving that he had lied under oath.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:52 pmHe's pissing the judge of big time too, because he keeps lying on the stand; & ignoring the Judges directions
I did wonder that as well, particularly as they didn't take any steps to protect the information when informed of their mistake. From the Guardian report:inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 amI'm wondering if there was an element of 'accidently-on-purpose' to that.Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 amIt was, however, brilliant that his dumb lawyers sent all of his text messages for the last two years to the parents' lawyers by mistake, proving that he had lied under oath.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:52 pm
He's pissing the judge of big time too, because he keeps lying on the stand; & ignoring the Judges directions
"The revelation surfaced during an exchange in an Austin, Texas, courtroom between Jones and Mark Bankston, a lawyer representing the parents of a six-year-old boy killed in the 2012 attack. ....
Bankston provided to the Infowars host a copy of a text message he received that criticized his platform’s coverage in 2020 of coronavirus and likened it to his false theory that the Sandy Hook killings were fake. This was deeply unfavorable to Jones because he had provided sworn testimony at a deposition that he had no text messages on his phone that referenced the Sandy Hook massacre.
“You did get my text messages?” Jones asked Bankston, while on the witness stand. Chuckling sarcastically, Jones added: “You said you didn’t. Nice trick.”
Bankston replied: “Do you know where I got this? Your attorneys messed up and sent me a digital copy of your entire cellphone, with every text message you’ve sent for the past two years.”
Bankston said he told Jones’s lawyers about the mistake, but they did not take “any steps” to label the texts as privileged, and thereby keep them out of court.
“That is how I know you lied when you said you didn’t have text messages about Sandy Hook,” said Bankston, whose clients are Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the father and mother of Jesse Lewis, who died in the shooting.
Jones tried to parry by saying he would not have turned his phone over to the attorneys who then inadvertently forwarded the texts to Bankston if he was trying to hide anything. ....
“You know what perjury is, right?” Bankston said, referring to the crime of lying under oath. “I just want to make sure before we go further.”
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And I'm pretty sure his defence wants him to lose.....'accidently sending the entire contents of his personal phone (including texts, voice messages and social media communications) to the prosecution'
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I'd certainly be tempted - I can only imagine how hard it is to defend someone you'd rather just throw through a window. It's not just defending people you know are guilty, which is simply professionally executing your duties and responsibilities to the court, it's defending people who are abhorrent.Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:48 amI did wonder that as well, particularly as they didn't take any steps to protect the information when informed of their mistake. From the Guardian report:inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 amI'm wondering if there was an element of 'accidently-on-purpose' to that.
"The revelation surfaced during an exchange in an Austin, Texas, courtroom between Jones and Mark Bankston, a lawyer representing the parents of a six-year-old boy killed in the 2012 attack. ....
Bankston provided to the Infowars host a copy of a text message he received that criticized his platform’s coverage in 2020 of coronavirus and likened it to his false theory that the Sandy Hook killings were fake. This was deeply unfavorable to Jones because he had provided sworn testimony at a deposition that he had no text messages on his phone that referenced the Sandy Hook massacre.
“You did get my text messages?” Jones asked Bankston, while on the witness stand. Chuckling sarcastically, Jones added: “You said you didn’t. Nice trick.”
Bankston replied: “Do you know where I got this? Your attorneys messed up and sent me a digital copy of your entire cellphone, with every text message you’ve sent for the past two years.”
Bankston said he told Jones’s lawyers about the mistake, but they did not take “any steps” to label the texts as privileged, and thereby keep them out of court.
“That is how I know you lied when you said you didn’t have text messages about Sandy Hook,” said Bankston, whose clients are Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the father and mother of Jesse Lewis, who died in the shooting.
Jones tried to parry by saying he would not have turned his phone over to the attorneys who then inadvertently forwarded the texts to Bankston if he was trying to hide anything. ....
“You know what perjury is, right?” Bankston said, referring to the crime of lying under oath. “I just want to make sure before we go further.”
If I was a defence lawyer I'd happily take one in the loss column to see Alex Jones slapped down. Which is one of many reasons I'd make a bad lawyer.
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Well the shitstain has obstructed discovery all the way; & this indeed was one of the lies he was admonished about by the Judge, when he claimed he'd complied with it; so he was the one putting pressure on his lawyers when they inevitably were forced to turn over his phone data.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:22 amI'd certainly be tempted - I can only imagine how hard it is to defend someone you'd rather just throw through a window. It's not just defending people you know are guilty, which is simply professionally executing your duties and responsibilities to the court, it's defending people who are abhorrent.Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:48 amI did wonder that as well, particularly as they didn't take any steps to protect the information when informed of their mistake. From the Guardian report:inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am
I'm wondering if there was an element of 'accidently-on-purpose' to that.
"The revelation surfaced during an exchange in an Austin, Texas, courtroom between Jones and Mark Bankston, a lawyer representing the parents of a six-year-old boy killed in the 2012 attack. ....
Bankston provided to the Infowars host a copy of a text message he received that criticized his platform’s coverage in 2020 of coronavirus and likened it to his false theory that the Sandy Hook killings were fake. This was deeply unfavorable to Jones because he had provided sworn testimony at a deposition that he had no text messages on his phone that referenced the Sandy Hook massacre.
“You did get my text messages?” Jones asked Bankston, while on the witness stand. Chuckling sarcastically, Jones added: “You said you didn’t. Nice trick.”
Bankston replied: “Do you know where I got this? Your attorneys messed up and sent me a digital copy of your entire cellphone, with every text message you’ve sent for the past two years.”
Bankston said he told Jones’s lawyers about the mistake, but they did not take “any steps” to label the texts as privileged, and thereby keep them out of court.
“That is how I know you lied when you said you didn’t have text messages about Sandy Hook,” said Bankston, whose clients are Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the father and mother of Jesse Lewis, who died in the shooting.
Jones tried to parry by saying he would not have turned his phone over to the attorneys who then inadvertently forwarded the texts to Bankston if he was trying to hide anything. ....
“You know what perjury is, right?” Bankston said, referring to the crime of lying under oath. “I just want to make sure before we go further.”
If I was a defence lawyer I'd happily take one in the loss column to see Alex Jones slapped down. Which is one of many reasons I'd make a bad lawyer.
He ran down the clock, & left them no time to discreetly purge the data; instead the Judge pointed a gun at the lawyers head, & said comply of face the consequences, & the lawyers weren't going to end their own careers for slime like Jones.
He'll probably sue his lawyersThor Sedan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:16 amAnd I'm pretty sure his defence wants him to lose.....'accidently sending the entire contents of his personal phone (including texts, voice messages and social media communications) to the prosecution'
This thread reminded me that I've been meaning to watch the film Waterloo for ages, so this week I did.
They don't make them like that any more...maybe because the Soviet army isn't around to provide thousands of extras.
Wasn't Ridley Scott supposed to be making some film about Napoleon?
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Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:07 amHe'll probably sue his lawyersThor Sedan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:16 amAnd I'm pretty sure his defence wants him to lose.....'accidently sending the entire contents of his personal phone (including texts, voice messages and social media communications) to the prosecution'
It just gets better, & better.
The plaintiffs lawyers have now been approached by multiple agencies, & lawyers, including the Jan 6th Committee, (to whom he plead the 5th); seeking the 2 years worth of text messages, & emails, & now there's no reason they can't see them
I hope all he's left with is a bucket & squigy, so he can stand at freeway exits, begging for spare change.
He asked for a mistrial too - which was denied. Watching him squirm has been quite satisfying,fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:37 pmTichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:07 amHe'll probably sue his lawyersThor Sedan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:16 am
And I'm pretty sure his defence wants him to lose.....'accidently sending the entire contents of his personal phone (including texts, voice messages and social media communications) to the prosecution'
It just gets better, & better.
The plaintiffs lawyers have now been approached by multiple agencies, & lawyers, including the Jan 6th Committee, (to whom he plead the 5th); seeking the 2 years worth of text messages, & emails, & now there's no reason they can't see them
I hope all he's left with is a bucket & squigy, so he can stand at freeway exits, begging for spare change.
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Ah well, the inevitable happened, & he's lost the case; but the Jury is only awarding $4.1m, versus the $150m that the the bereaved parents were looking for ......... but this was Texas, a notoriously difficult State for suing in, & the case turned into a complete cake walk, & now the evidence uncovered can be used in other States, & the other lawsuits.
And as an added bonus; the shit stain has now perjured himself in Texas; which is a crime they actually do take seriously, & he may also have committed bankruptcy fraud too, because hes been caught moving money around to avoid having it in the gun sights of the plaintiffs; & that could potentially have him facing Federal charges, where he has zero friends, the jeopardy, is an order of magnitude higher.
The chinless shitstain will spend the rest of his life, like the orange shitstain; being the defendant in an endless series of court cases.
And as an added bonus; the shit stain has now perjured himself in Texas; which is a crime they actually do take seriously, & he may also have committed bankruptcy fraud too, because hes been caught moving money around to avoid having it in the gun sights of the plaintiffs; & that could potentially have him facing Federal charges, where he has zero friends, the jeopardy, is an order of magnitude higher.
The chinless shitstain will spend the rest of his life, like the orange shitstain; being the defendant in an endless series of court cases.