Longshanks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:02 pm
He's just so tedious
It's not a fun thing to engage with Bimbo for too long.
Indeed.
Yet a whole bunch of posters who seem to despise him, for some reason followed him over once he was banned.
To set him and the world straight, no doubt!
I realise your persona on PR was one of trying to ape the bigger trolls, but you're not really fooling anyone here. Bimbo is by some distance the most prolific poster on PR and has aggravated the vast majority of the board at one point or another. Any diaspora containing a cross-section of PR posters is likely to have people with strong opinions on Bimbo, and his posting style is one of total war on every topic.
To be honest. I’m not hugely proud of my PR persona. But I am liking this new joint.
So I’m just keen to just avoid the hate/shit posting.
For the record I’m not backing bimbo. Just bored to fvck of the hate between your tribe and bimbo tribe.
Longshanks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:02 pm
He's just so tedious
It's not a fun thing to engage with Bimbo for too long.
Indeed.
Yet a whole bunch of posters who seem to despise him, for some reason followed him over once he was banned.
To set him and the world straight, no doubt!
It was much better over here until that prick wandered over as well after being banned.
But as was noticeable on PR, if you ignore him, he gets bored and wanders away to try to annoy someone else. It's the only reason he does it, so I've got him on ignore now. If I see something egregious I might call him out on his complete ignorance or deliberate misunderstanding of something, but apart from that he can carry on covering himself in his own shit.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:54 pm
by BnM
I'm really hoping the tedious shit fights that often dominate PR don't come here. I looked at this thread last night, theatrically sighed, stopped reading and left.
They will be nipped in the bud once they become tediously painful.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:09 pm
by Sandstorm
sefton wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:39 pm
When did ASMO put Ymx in charge?
Yet a whole bunch of posters who seem to despise him, for some reason followed him over once he was banned.
To set him and the world straight, no doubt!
I realise your persona on PR was one of trying to ape the bigger trolls, but you're not really fooling anyone here. Bimbo is by some distance the most prolific poster on PR and has aggravated the vast majority of the board at one point or another. Any diaspora containing a cross-section of PR posters is likely to have people with strong opinions on Bimbo, and his posting style is one of total war on every topic.
To be honest. I’m not hugely proud of my PR persona. But I am liking this new joint.
So I’m just keen to just avoid the hate/shit posting.
For the record I’m not backing bimbo. Just bored to fvck of the hate between your tribe and bimbo tribe.
Which can Fvck right off back to PR IMO.
My tribe? I don't really interact with Bimbo on PR, and largely stay out of the threads he infests. I think you're just inventing a group that doesn't exist beyond it being "most people". That's all!
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:01 pm
by Sandstorm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:50 pm
My tribe? I don't really interact with Bimbo on PR, and largely stay out of the threads he infests. I think you're just inventing a group that doesn't exist beyond it being "most people". That's all!
If Bimbot had a hate tribe on PR it would largely be HH, C69 and a couple of the Swarm.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:58 pm
by Ymx
And many of those in the last couple of pages. Read the posts and his hate tribe is fairly clear to see. Especially those who barely posted over here until he was banned.
But he’s gone. And sounds like he will next turn up at PR. So this is good news.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:24 pm
by JM2K6
Again, you're confusing "people who find the stuff bimbo posts to be disagreeable" with some sort of coterie. Everyone disagrees with him, it's kind of his thing. But yes, let's be glad he's gone and we can get back to uh <checks notes> being nice about NZ rugby?
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:28 pm
by Line6 HXFX
Bimbo is a perfect representative of the Boris, Cummings age. The age of the resent'tard, I call it.
I actually find reading his opinions educational.
We have to remember what a crazy world we live in where basically Bill (remember him) won the debate for Britain.
All he believed in, every little crazy narrative he got derided for, all of it is or has come true.
It is just good to get a heads up.
Whatever you can say about Bimbo or Bill, their shit flies.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:41 pm
by Saint
Getting back on track, the Moderna vaccine started Phase III trials today
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:59 pm
by fishfoodie
The American Public have made their feelings known; on who they support, & trust. ...
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:58 pm
And many of those in the last couple of pages. Read the posts and his hate tribe is fairly clear to see. Especially those who barely posted over here until he was banned.
But he’s gone. And sounds like he will next turn up at PR. So this is good news.
I'd be surprised if many actually hated him. He's pretty much harmless. But incredibly infuriating because he lacks any ability/will to be objective. As such people either ignore him, prod him, temporarily engage with him only to get annoyed with his lack of ever attempting to see another viewpoint or, rarely, get genuinely angry with him. He's a perfect troll but I'm still not sure if he's a troll. Which just makes it more perfect if he is.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:33 pm
by Ali Cadoo
He's intensely frustrating because both here and PR are such good, vital sources of intelligent, rational discourse and information from many good posters and sources. When someone like Bimbo comes in and starts smearing his own shit around the walls in some sort of intellectual dirty protest, it ruins it.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:47 pm
by Line6 HXFX
Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:33 pm
He's intensely frustrating because both here and PR are such good, vital sources of intelligent, rational discourse and information from many good posters and sources. When someone like Bimbo comes in and starts smearing his own shit around the walls in some sort of intellectual dirty protest, it ruins it.
Nah, there will be another target for the bullying and abuse any minute now. It is like the same crowd constantly need a new target or hate figure to chew up and spit out.
There will be none of that - it will be nipped in the bud
I will never understand just the sheer viciousness of it.
Some people have something seriously lacking in their lives.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:23 am
by FujiKiwi
I went to the dentist today here in Osaka. Out and about in town, I’d estimate about 90-95% of people wearing masks. Is this a lot more than other countries?
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:51 am
by Kiwias
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:23 am
I went to the dentist today here in Osaka. Out and about in town, I’d estimate about 90-95% of people wearing masks. Is this a lot more than other countries?
I'd put the %age at about that here in Tottori but there was a case found yesterday of a bloke who went to Tokyo then Hiroshima on business, was not feeling very good on his return, was running a temperature, so what did he do?
Went out to a bar with some friends then to a restaurant. Then his wife told him to get his sorry ass to the public health agency where he was tested and bunged straight in hospital with covid-19.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:56 am
by FujiKiwi
Yeah. We have some idiots here in Japan alright. On the bus today, there was an old guy who was wearing a mask, but he would pull it down to cough, then put it back up again.
He wiped his mouth with a cloth after one cough, then lay the cloth over the railing in front of him. Then he coughed again, picked the cloth off the rail, wiped his mouth again, put it back.
A tiny minority are this stupid, anywhere in the world, I guess.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:38 am
by Ymx
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:56 am
Yeah. We have some idiots here in Japan alright. On the bus today, there was an old guy who was wearing a mask, but he would pull it down to cough, then put it back up again.
He wiped his mouth with a cloth after one cough, then lay the cloth over the railing in front of him. Then he coughed again, picked the cloth off the rail, wiped his mouth again, put it back.
A tiny minority are this stupid, anywhere in the world, I guess.
You must be kidding me!
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:02 am
by Yeeb
Am currently in a hotel in Torquay - about 20% of the normal guest numbers, but still the normal mix of ‘lots of oldies’ from Wales , the midland and the north. Very few of them in masks (not mandatory for guests, just the staff) and they are coughing all over the place.
In Devon , in shops now the wearing masks thing often means people pulling their t shirt uonover their mouth for 30 seconds - surprisingly large number of medical reasons for non wearing either .
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:09 am
by Ovals
My wife went to Waitrose last week and again this week to pick up a few items that didn't come in our delivery. Last week almost no one was wearing a mask (other than her) - this week 100% wearing masks and all wearing them properly. And everyone was following social distancing guidelines as well.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:16 am
by Slick
Here in Edinburgh it is pretty much 100% from what I've seen so far
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:39 am
by Line6 HXFX
They are not wearing masks in Wales in shops and supermarkets.
Think we only just insisted people wear them in buses.
0 deaths for 4 days in Wales though.
"Here in Wales we know that the transmission of the virus is really at low levels at the moment so the question arises as to why we would introduce such a mandation at this point in time.
Johnson makes face coverings compulsory in England’s shops
As of July 24, it will be mandatory to wear a face covering whilst shopping in England. The Government have announced this fresh move to aid other measures to stop the spread of Covid-19.
"The things that really matter like the social distancing, personal hygiene, having the track and trace in place, and down at the end of the list comes the PPE and face coverings.
"I know everybody gets very excited about the issue of face coverings, but at the moment we don't believe that bar is high enough, the public health hurdle has been passed."
The Welsh Assembly is petty awesome.
#independenceforWales
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am
by Raggs
Daft way of looking at it. Unless you can cut yourself off from potential infection, or can be sure there is no infection (not deaths, but cases), then it only makes sense to try and keep it that way, rather than wait for it to come back and introduce a relatively simple measure.
Deaths is a bad way of looking at things now, UK case rates will equate to maybe 10-15 deaths a day, but that's still 10's of thousands infected per week. And if that gets a hold and has a week or two to spread before we get on top of it, we'll be in trouble again. Wales is in a good position, now wear the masks to stay there.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:12 am
by Sandstorm
Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am
Daft way of looking at it. Unless you can cut yourself off from potential infection, or can be sure there is no infection (not deaths, but cases), then it only makes sense to try and keep it that way, rather than wait for it to come back and introduce a relatively simple measure.
Deaths is a bad way of looking at things now, UK case rates will equate to maybe 10-15 deaths a day, but that's still 10's of thousands infected per week. And if that gets a hold and has a week or two to spread before we get on top of it, we'll be in trouble again. Wales is in a good position, now wear the masks to stay there.
Wiki says:
The death of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd in 1282 led to the conquest of the last independent Welsh kingdom by Edward I of England. The Welsh revolted against English rule several times over the next years, with the last significant attempt being the Glyndŵr Rising of 1400–1415, which briefly restored independence.
"We will not wear the mask of English oppression any longer!!"
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:38 am
by ASMO
Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am
Daft way of looking at it. Unless you can cut yourself off from potential infection, or can be sure there is no infection (not deaths, but cases), then it only makes sense to try and keep it that way, rather than wait for it to come back and introduce a relatively simple measure.
Deaths is a bad way of looking at things now, UK case rates will equate to maybe 10-15 deaths a day, but that's still 10's of thousands infected per week. And if that gets a hold and has a week or two to spread before we get on top of it, we'll be in trouble again. Wales is in a good position, now wear the masks to stay there.
I think what also needs to be considered in is that a lot of the most susceptible/weaker patients infected have died in the first wave, those left will be likely better physically equipped to handle the infection so death rates v infections will drop.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:44 am
by Mahoney
We're also hopefully getting better at treating it.
Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am
Daft way of looking at it. Unless you can cut yourself off from potential infection, or can be sure there is no infection (not deaths, but cases), then it only makes sense to try and keep it that way, rather than wait for it to come back and introduce a relatively simple measure.
Deaths is a bad way of looking at things now, UK case rates will equate to maybe 10-15 deaths a day, but that's still 10's of thousands infected per week. And if that gets a hold and has a week or two to spread before we get on top of it, we'll be in trouble again. Wales is in a good position, now wear the masks to stay there.
I think what also needs to be considered in is that a lot of the most susceptible/weaker patients infected have died in the first wave, those left will be likely better physically equipped to handle the infection so death rates v infections will drop.
Only if a large proportion of them got infected first time round. A huge % of the population hasn't been infected by all accounts; I don't think you can assume the virus just culled the weakest.
Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am
Daft way of looking at it. Unless you can cut yourself off from potential infection, or can be sure there is no infection (not deaths, but cases), then it only makes sense to try and keep it that way, rather than wait for it to come back and introduce a relatively simple measure.
Deaths is a bad way of looking at things now, UK case rates will equate to maybe 10-15 deaths a day, but that's still 10's of thousands infected per week. And if that gets a hold and has a week or two to spread before we get on top of it, we'll be in trouble again. Wales is in a good position, now wear the masks to stay there.
I think what also needs to be considered in is that a lot of the most susceptible/weaker patients infected have died in the first wave, those left will be likely better physically equipped to handle the infection so death rates v infections will drop.
Only if a large proportion of them got infected first time round. A huge % of the population hasn't been infected by all accounts; I don't think you can assume the virus just culled the weakest.
Exactly this. A minority of the country has been infected, a very small minority. The suggestion that it included most the at risk patients is daft.
And even if it did somehow achieve this, what about all the adults it can still kill, or leave with long term damage through blood clots.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:49 am
by Line6 HXFX
Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am
Daft way of looking at it. Unless you can cut yourself off from potential infection, or can be sure there is no infection (not deaths, but cases), then it only makes sense to try and keep it that way, rather than wait for it to come back and introduce a relatively simple measure.
Deaths is a bad way of looking at things now, UK case rates will equate to maybe 10-15 deaths a day, but that's still 10's of thousands infected per week. And if that gets a hold and has a week or two to spread before we get on top of it, we'll be in trouble again. Wales is in a good position, now wear the masks to stay there.
Well, I wear a mask as the Mrs works in and around Covid. Every day is an adventure.
But his point was the science only says that medical masks work and sticking any old material over your mouth has very limited effect and there is no need to go there yet.
Mahoney wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:44 am
We're also hopefully getting better at treating it.
Scary thing is that we still don't know about the long term issues this things causes and how long they last.
Thinking about the blood clots etc which had been found in seemingly healthy / recovered people think one of them posts here/pr.
Mortality might drop which is fantastic, but could end up with a lot of people still needing hospital level care
Mahoney wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:44 am
We're also hopefully getting better at treating it.
Scary thing is that we still don't know about the long term issues this things causes and how long they last.
Thinking about the blood clots etc which had been found in seemingly healthy / recovered people think one of them posts here/pr.
Mortality might drop which is fantastic, but could end up with a lot of people still needing hospital level care
Yup; if you can't get ready access to qualified doctors who can administer steroids, anti-clotting drugs and tonnes of oxygen (see most of the Developing World), you're fugged.
1st World hospitals hopefully can keep up, but people still have to take social distancing seriously and cancel their annual holiday to Spain for 2020. And stop whinging about it.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:04 pm
by Tilly Orifice
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:56 am
Yeah. We have some idiots here in Japan alright. On the bus today, there was an old guy who was wearing a mask, but he would pull it down to cough, then put it back up again.
He wiped his mouth with a cloth after one cough, then lay the cloth over the railing in front of him. Then he coughed again, picked the cloth off the rail, wiped his mouth again, put it back.
A tiny minority are this stupid, anywhere in the world, I guess.
In Thailand we probably have about 90% wearing masks in public, but maybe 25% of those are wearing them on their chins.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:37 pm
by Saint
Positive tests in the UK plateauing a bit, even creeping up slightly. It would be good to understand how many of these were tests triggered by track and trace methods, particularly of asymptomatic cases. If they form a decent chunk of that number then I would actually see this as a positive that over time will lead to the number really being driven down.
