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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:21 pm The report on Gaetz has apparently been released to the committee members, so should leak any time now.

We know the traitor doesn't care about the whole, rape thing, or the taking drugs thing, because he did the same shit his entire life; but you'd think someone would have pointed out that while the Traitors moron sons might think Matt is a dude, everyone else in the GOP knows what a slim ball Matt is, & it's going to be really easy for the Dems to find enough on the GOP side to foil his appointment, so the Traitor is just burning up good will, & making himself look stupid & weak for even trying to appoint such a toxic cunt.
One would almost suspect he wants the Senate to block certain nominations so he can say I've heard your advice and I'm doing it anyway, your move Congress.

It's almost like norms, say the law, don't really act as guidelines for Trump, and if the Supremes stay in his pocket rather than risk becoming enemies of the people why should he care?
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Matt Gaetz withdraws as Trump's nominee for attorney general. Presumably the report is fairly damning, though could be part of a spectacular bait and switch.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxy2qxxpzo
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Is that shorter than a Scaramucci?
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He's resigned from the House on the strength of getting this appointment, & then going into the DoJ & shredding the evidence against him, & doxing his accusers to the MAGA mob.

The Traitor has blinked !!!
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As a consolation prize, the prick probably has Trump's guarantee of a pardon when he's eventually charged and convicted of statutory rape.
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geordie_6 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:55 pm Matt Gaetz withdraws as Trump's nominee for attorney general. Presumably the report is fairly damning, though could be part of a spectacular bait and switch.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxy2qxxpzo
I was confident that at least one of them wouldn't make it as far as Xmas but what odds on not even making a week.
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Gumboot wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:56 pm As a consolation prize, the prick probably has Trump's guarantee of a pardon when he's eventually charged and convicted of statutory rape.
The map of his crimes is almost certainly going to pass thru a Blue State, & that gives that State a case.
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:00 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:55 pm Matt Gaetz withdraws as Trump's nominee for attorney general. Presumably the report is fairly damning, though could be part of a spectacular bait and switch.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxy2qxxpzo
I was confident that at least one of them wouldn't make it as far as Xmas but what odds on not even making a week.
Pretty spectacular really.
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Bulwark reporting that it was Trump himself who bailed on him.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/you-dont-h ... irect=true
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Some figures behind the distinct improbability of finding $2 trillion worth of savings.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ge-us-debt
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Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:15 pm Is that shorter than a Scaramucci?
Yup, from nomination to withdrawal it was 8 days. A Scaramucci is 11 days.

Scaramucci also actually assumed his role of Communications Director.
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There goes the economy..

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TB63 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:43 pm There goes the economy..

There's a very good article in the LRB about the flow of guns from the US into Mexico which - along with the demand from (and untreated addiction in) the US for drugs - is helping to sustain the drug trade and related violence.
I think you get a few freebies from the LRB, so you should be able to view.

Maybe Mexico should put up tariffs.
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Per the latest from the United States of Oligarchy, rather than relying on his party’s control of Congress to trim the budget, Trump and his advisers intend to test an obscure legal theory holding that presidents have sweeping power to defund programs they dislike. Litigation pending.

It will be interesting to see how the GOP Congress members react. Do they

a). Bend the knee to the God-Emperor and not get MAGA'd: or

b). Fight for their legislative influence (and the lovely money that it attracts from donors, which will otherwise go to their master as he controls the spice).

The spoon length is getting longer by the day, it seems.
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I had it my head they didn't like Tyrants
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Trump's pick to lead the treasury...

“tariffs can’t be inflationary because if the price of one thing goes up, unless you give people more money, then they have less money to spend on the other thing, so there is no inflation.”

What the fuck?..
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So most of their fresh fruit and veg is more expensive now. Fat food restaurants rejoice (leaving the spelling in).
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TB63 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:04 pm Trump's pick to lead the treasury...

“tariffs can’t be inflationary because if the price of one thing goes up, unless you give people more money, then they have less money to spend on the other thing, so there is no inflation.”

What the fuck?..
A very Trumpian line, as in is the speaker genuinely that thick, or are they spouting crap some will lap up because they're a disgusting sociopath and they know they can get away with it
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inactionman wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:55 pm
Maybe Mexico should put up tariffs.
One imagines they'd have to, else madness will follow. And yes, the USA should without doubt be looking to stop the illegal flow of arms going south
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inactionman wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:55 pm

Maybe Mexico should put up tariffs.
Well that's usually what happens in trade wars.

I'm happy to see him taking action against those disgusting Canucks though. They are a vile people.
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[/quote]

There's a very good article in the LRB about the flow of guns from the US into Mexico which - along with the demand from (and untreated addiction in) the US for drugs - is helping to sustain the drug trade and related violence.
Someone biased on the other side might word it as flow of drugs from Mexico into the US and demand from Mexico for guns.
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TB63 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:04 pm Trump's pick to lead the treasury...

“tariffs can’t be inflationary because if the price of one thing goes up, unless you give people more money, then they have less money to spend on the other thing, so there is no inflation.”

What the fuck?..
Anyone else sense the U.S economy is going to go into meltdown.

Not sure where that economic theory comes from, probably a badly run Asylum from the 1800s.
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Conor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:59 pm Someone biased on the other side might word it as flow of drugs from Mexico into the US and demand from Mexico for guns.
They're both suppliers, stop trying to whitewash the US's part here. They're the biggest arms dealer in the world. They know exactly what they're doing.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:22 am
Conor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:59 pm Someone biased on the other side might word it as flow of drugs from Mexico into the US and demand from Mexico for guns.
They're both suppliers, stop trying to whitewash the US's part here. They're the biggest arms dealer in the world. They know exactly what they're doing.
Read somewhere that the drug Trump is up in arms over is 83% supplied from within the U.S, once again the Orange One is completely whacko in his policy setting, this isn't even shot from the hip, more farted out.
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Jethro wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:40 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:22 am
Conor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:59 pm Someone biased on the other side might word it as flow of drugs from Mexico into the US and demand from Mexico for guns.
They're both suppliers, stop trying to whitewash the US's part here. They're the biggest arms dealer in the world. They know exactly what they're doing.
Read somewhere that the drug Trump is up in arms over is 83% supplied from within the U.S, once again the Orange One is completely whacko in his policy setting, this isn't even shot from the hip, more farted out.
Fubar and fupar policies for the win
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Canada’s Minister of Finance Chrystia Freeland responded to Trump’s threat to impose a 25% tariff on that country by noting that Canada would be forced to respond with an equal tariff on US products, so not only would American consumers be hurt, so would American companies and jobs: "Canada places the highest priority on border security and the integrity of our shared border. Our relationship today is balanced and mutually beneficial, particularly for American workers. Canada buys more from the US than from China, Japan, France and the UK combined."

… Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum also responded to Trump, saying that border crossings were down 75% this year and 70% of illegal guns in Mexico came from the US. She says if he starts a trade war with Mexico and Canada, everyone in all three counties with suffer

More Sheinbaum: “70% of the illegal weapons seized from criminals in Mexico come from your country. We do not produce these weapons, nor do we consume synthetic drugs. Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost to the violence resulting from meeting the drug demand in yours.”
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Naturally, Trump is claiming credit for the Israel/Hezbollah ceasefire.
“Everyone is coming to the table because of President Trump,” Florida Rep. Mike Waltz, Trump’s choice for his national security adviser, said in a post on X on Tuesday, shortly before the Israel Cabinet signed off on the agreement. “His resounding victory sent a clear message to the rest of the world that chaos won’t be tolerated. I’m glad to see concrete steps towards deescalation in the Middle East.”
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump- ... c996a2225f
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TB63 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:49 am
Canada’s Minister of Finance Chrystia Freeland responded to Trump’s threat to impose a 25% tariff on that country by noting that Canada would be forced to respond with an equal tariff on US products, so not only would American consumers be hurt, so would American companies and jobs: "Canada places the highest priority on border security and the integrity of our shared border. Our relationship today is balanced and mutually beneficial, particularly for American workers. Canada buys more from the US than from China, Japan, France and the UK combined."

… Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum also responded to Trump, saying that border crossings were down 75% this year and 70% of illegal guns in Mexico came from the US. She says if he starts a trade war with Mexico and Canada, everyone in all three counties with suffer

More Sheinbaum: “70% of the illegal weapons seized from criminals in Mexico come from your country. We do not produce these weapons, nor do we consume synthetic drugs. Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost to the violence resulting from meeting the drug demand in yours.”
Claudia isn't blonde with fake tits, so the Traitor isn't going to pay any attention to her.

Oh, & Rule 1 for the pedants :wink:

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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:24 am
TB63 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:49 am
Canada’s Minister of Finance Chrystia Freeland responded to Trump’s threat to impose a 25% tariff on that country by noting that Canada would be forced to respond with an equal tariff on US products, so not only would American consumers be hurt, so would American companies and jobs: "Canada places the highest priority on border security and the integrity of our shared border. Our relationship today is balanced and mutually beneficial, particularly for American workers. Canada buys more from the US than from China, Japan, France and the UK combined."

… Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum also responded to Trump, saying that border crossings were down 75% this year and 70% of illegal guns in Mexico came from the US. She says if he starts a trade war with Mexico and Canada, everyone in all three counties with suffer

More Sheinbaum: “70% of the illegal weapons seized from criminals in Mexico come from your country. We do not produce these weapons, nor do we consume synthetic drugs. Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost to the violence resulting from meeting the drug demand in yours.”
Claudia isn't blonde with fake tits, so the Traitor isn't going to pay any attention to her.

Oh, & Rule 1 for the pedants :wink:

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We'll be okay if Trudeau sends our Minister of Foreign Affairs (fnaar!) Melanie Joly to handle the negotiations instead of Freeland!

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For a bit of balance, she could bring along with her MP Emmanuella Lambropolous
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New Mexican leader wasn't backward in telling Trump to go fuck himself, naturally Trump folded like a wet pack of cards but did claim the border issue was resolved with Mexico. And Yanks still believe this dildo? The mind boggles at how one of the most advanced Countries in the world could be filled to the brim with the naturally stupid.
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Jethro wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:51 pm New Mexican leader wasn't backward in telling Trump to go fuck himself, naturally Trump folded like a wet pack of cards but did claim the border issue was resolved with Mexico. And Yanks still believe this dildo? The mind boggles at how one of the most advanced Countries in the world could be filled to the brim with the naturally stupid.
Linky?
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:01 pm
Jethro wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:51 pm New Mexican leader wasn't backward in telling Trump to go fuck himself, naturally Trump folded like a wet pack of cards but did claim the border issue was resolved with Mexico. And Yanks still believe this dildo? The mind boggles at how one of the most advanced Countries in the world could be filled to the brim with the naturally stupid.
Linky?
Give me a sec ....
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:24 am
Claudia isn't blonde with fake tits, so the Traitor isn't going to pay any attention to her.

Oh, & Rule 1 for the pedants :wink:

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She looks like WWE wrestler Bayley's more studious cousin.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 024-11-26/
MEXICO CITY, Nov 26 (Reuters) -
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum on Tuesday warned U.S. President-elect Donald Trump of dire economic consequences for both countries from tariffs and suggested possible retaliation following his threat of across-the-board tariffs of 25% on Mexico and Canada.

"One tariff will follow another in response and so on, until we put our common businesses at risk," Sheinbaum said in a letter to Trump, which she read aloud in a press conference, warning that tariffs would cause inflation and job losses in both countries.
Sheinbaum added she would also seek a call with Trump and send a letter to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Trump, who takes office on Jan. 20, said late on Monday he would impose a 25% tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico until they clamped down on drugs, particularly fentanyl, and migrants crossing the border.

Mexico is the United States' top trade partner as of September, representing 15.8% of total trade, followed by Canada at 13.9%. The U.S. is also Mexico's top trade partner.

"What sense is there?" in escalating cross-border tariffs, Sheinbaum added, underscoring that they would hit particularly hard U.S. carmakers with plants in Mexico, such as General Motors (GM.N)

Mexico's automotive industry is the country's most important manufacturing sector, accounting for over 35% of manufactured exports by value. The United States is by far the dominant destination for vehicles made in Mexico, with up to 79% of them heading north across the border.
Mexico represents nearly 25% of all North American vehicle production.


Tariffs could violate the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, a trade deal the countries signed in 2020 during Trump's first administration.
Sheinbaum said her administration had shown Mexico's willingness to help fight the fentanyl epidemic in the U.S., that apprehensions of migrants at the border were down, and that migrant caravans were no longer arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border.
However, Sheinbaum noted that criminal groups in Mexico were still receiving guns from the U.S.


"We do not produce weapons, we do not consume synthetic drugs. Unfortunately what we do have is the people who are being killed by the crime that is responding to the demand in your country," she said.

"Tariffs are a tax and would hurt both countries. We will find a solution," said Mexican Economy Minister Marcelo Ebrard, who earlier this month warned Mexico could retaliate with its own tariffs on U.S. imports if the incoming Trump administration imposes tariffs on Mexican exports.
His deputy, Luis Rosendo Gutierrez, said that the tariff threats from Trump were in line with the president-elect's behavior in his first term.
"It's his way of doing things," Gutierrez said in an interview with Radio Formula station. "First, he takes a really strong position, but then he sits down to negotiate. If he had just wanted to hike (tariffs), he would have done it on (Jan.) 20, he wouldn't have let us know in advance."

Financial analysts, meanwhile, reacted to Trump's announcement with commentaries ranging from pessimism to cynicism.
At CIBanco, analysts said they believed the threat was a tactic to force Mexico, Canada and China into talks, and as these measures would also damage the U.S. economy, the final result was likely to be less severe.
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Without knowing all the background, this missive to Hegseth, nominee for Sec of Def, from his mother is pretty brutal.
Son,

I have tried to keep quiet about your character and behavior, but after listening to the way you made Samantha feel today, I cannot stay silent. And as a woman and your mother I feel I must speak out..

You are an abuser of women — that is the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth.

I am not a saint, far from it.. so don’t throw that in my face,. but your abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out.

Sam is a good mother and a good person (under the circumstances that you created) and I know deep down you know that. For you to try to label her as “unstable” for your own advantage is despicable and abusive. Is there any sense of decency left in you? She did not ask for or deserve any of what has come to her by your hand. Neither did Meredith.

I know you think this is one big competition and that we have taken her side… bunk… we are on the side of good and that is not you. (Go ahead and call me self-righteous, I dont’ care)

Don’t you dare run to her and cry foul that we shared with us… that’s what babies do. It’s time for someone (I wish it was a strong man) to stand up to your abusive behavior and call it out, especially against women

We still love you, but we are broken by your behavior and lack of character. I don’t want to write emails like this and never thought I would. If it damages our relationship further, then so be it, but at least I have said my piece. [Redacted]

And yes, we are praying for you (and you don’t deserve to know how we are praying, so skip the snarky reply)

I don’t want an answer to this… I don’t want to debate with you. You twist and abuse everything I say anyway. But… On behalf of all the women (and I know it’s many) you have abused in some way, I say… get some help and take an honest look at yourself…

Mom
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/p ... -text.html
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Hunter off the hook

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Niegs wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:56 am Hunter off the hook
Good on him and I look forward to the righteous indignation from the MAGA crowd.
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Bad decision, beyond the optics for Biden himself, a vindicative Trump will likely see something utterly false concocted and charged through Kangaroo court.

Needed to be better here, even if Trump already abused it
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TheNatalShark wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:47 am Bad decision, beyond the optics for Biden himself, a vindicative Trump will likely see something utterly false concocted and charged through Kangaroo court.

Needed to be better here, even if Trump already abused it
The biggest obstacle facing the Democrats is their self proclaimed need to 'be better'. It's bullshit and it loses them support. They need to learn how to get down and dirty because that is where the fight is being fought. Trump lowers the bar every day and now he has First Lady Elon in there with him. Being nice ain't gonna cut it.

I know it's a bad look but what the hell does it matter? Biden himself is almost out of the picture now and the next election is a whole shitphase of abuse down the track. There will be other battles.
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