Wait till the prices skyrocket due to his tariffs....
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:43 am
by Sards
TB63 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:10 pm
Wait till the prices skyrocket due to his tariffs....
Its a long game. We had a very competitive textiles industry employing a lot of people in the Cape until Asian imports started flooding the market and basically closed down the local industry. You need to protect local jobs.
TB63 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:10 pm
Wait till the prices skyrocket due to his tariffs....
Its a long game. We had a very competitive textiles industry employing a lot of people in the Cape until Asian imports started flooding the market and basically closed down the local industry. You need to protect local jobs.
We had a very competitive textiles industry in the UK, especially Lancashire, until the sceptics rather took over the scene. (And of course even whilst we had that market we were importing much of the raw material and adding value for ourselves rather than the producer, and by ourselves I mean the owners of the cotton mills rather than the workers)
Anyway, things change, and you can try being protectionist but others respond and the whole is less than good. That doesn't mean you simply abandon those left behind in a global market, but unless you're going to cancel things like air/sea travel, phones, the internet even then the market is global, so why advance less productive aims?
What there is scope for rather than the more simplistic tariff system is agreements between nations and supranational bodies that in essence establish NTBs, minimum standards if you will around worker, environmental considerations and whatnot, and that can alleviate some concerns around 'unfair' competition. What there shouldn't be scope for is going out of our way to avoid change, because that's backwards thinking
TB63 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:10 pm
Wait till the prices skyrocket due to his tariffs....
Its a long game. We had a very competitive textiles industry employing a lot of people in the Cape until Asian imports started flooding the market and basically closed down the local industry. You need to protect local jobs.
We had a very competitive textiles industry in the UK, especially Lancashire, until the sceptics rather took over the scene. (And of course even whilst we had that market we were importing much of the raw material and adding value for ourselves rather than the producer, and by ourselves I mean the owners of the cotton mills rather than the workers)
Anyway, things change, and you can try being protectionist but others respond and the whole is less than good. That doesn't mean you simply abandon those left behind in a global market, but unless you're going to cancel things like air/sea travel, phones, the internet even then the market is global, so why advance less productive aims?
What there is scope for rather than the more simplistic tariff system is agreements between nations and supranational bodies that in essence establish NTBs, minimum standards if you will around worker, environmental considerations and whatnot, and that can alleviate some concerns around 'unfair' competition. What there shouldn't be scope for is going out of our way to avoid change, because that's backwards thinking
Moving to higher value jobs that are hard to offshore is the thing. Sounds easy but it's not.
TB63 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:10 pm
Wait till the prices skyrocket due to his tariffs....
Its a long game. We had a very competitive textiles industry employing a lot of people in the Cape until Asian imports started flooding the market and basically closed down the local industry. You need to protect local jobs.
There's so little info given that it reads like it might be a more straightforward shakedown. Trump's mind probably thinks that other countries owe them tribute.
TB63 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:10 pm
Wait till the prices skyrocket due to his tariffs....
Its a long game. We had a very competitive textiles industry employing a lot of people in the Cape until Asian imports started flooding the market and basically closed down the local industry. You need to protect local jobs.
There's so little info given that it reads like it might be a more straightforward shakedown. Trump's mind probably thinks that other countries owe him tribute.
Fixed etc.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:00 pm
by Gumboot
Has Trump claimed credit for the Gaza ceasefire deal yet?
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:25 pm
by C T
Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:00 pm
Has Trump claimed credit for the Gaza ceasefire deal yet?
He has indeed.
Perfectly understandable given he's a narcissist through and through. Crazy thing is a lot of people will believe him.
Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:00 pm
Has Trump claimed credit for the Gaza ceasefire deal yet?
He has indeed.
Perfectly understandable given he's a narcissist through and through. Crazy thing is a lot of people will believe him.
has he really? I was listening to the news in the car earlier and laughed to myself that he would try and take credit
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:41 pm
by fishfoodie
I'm a bit surprised that the GOP didn't try & stop any deal before the Inauguration, like they did with Iran, but I suppose Bibi is under intense pressure, & he needs the win.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:58 am
by Niegs
Republicans in-fighting at a lower level.
A Georgia state senator who was previously banned from the state House chamber was arrested Thursday when he tried to enter the chamber for the governor’s state of the state speech and got into a shoving match with House employees.
State Sen. Colton Moore, a Republican from Trenton, is among the chamber’s most right-wing members. He signaled Wednesday that he would seek a showdown when he called House Speaker Jon Burns, a fellow Republican, a “tyrant” on social media.
The arrest is one of several examples of state officials trying to restrain lawmakers or onlookers as legislative sessions begin in 2025.
Burns banned Moore from the House chamber last year after Moore denounced late House Speaker David Ralston on a day when Ralston was being honored and his relatives were watching. In a speech, Moore called Ralston “one of the most corrupt Georgia leaders we’ll ever see” over allegations that Ralston improperly delayed court cases he handled as a lawyer. Burns called Moore’s remarks “vile” when he announced the ban, saying it would remain until Moore apologized.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:40 pm
by Hal Jordan
Strong Vl"hurg vs G'gugvunt energy there.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:38 pm
by Sandstorm
Annoyed they’re moving the President’s inauguration indoors. An elderly man catching a chronic chill on his lungs while reciting the pledge would be ideal.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:47 pm
by Biffer
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:38 pm
Annoyed they’re moving the President’s inauguration indoors. An elderly man catching a chronic chill on his lungs while reciting the pledge would be ideal.
Comparisons online to JFK. It was 22 degrees Fahrenheit when he was sworn in, and he spoke without an overcoat.
* Begin deportation program
* End birthright citizenship
* End Biden border policies
* Pardon Jan 6 defendants
* End war in Ukraine
* Implement tariffs
* Cancel EV 'mandate'
* Drill, baby...
* Re-Americanize the auto industry
* Limit trans rights
* End gender-affirming care
I thought Newsome was holding back a bit at the start and while he didn't go into the attack mode I'd have, he had a good shot at Trump and an even bigger one at Elon-ia.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:43 am
by Guy Smiley
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:51 am
by Biffer
More and more, I'm seeing the world through the lens of Terry Pratchett books
'You tell them a lie, and then when you don't need it anymore you tell them another lie and tell them they're progressing along the road to wisdom. Then instead of laughing they follow you even more, hoping that at the heart of the lies they'll find the truth. And bit by bit they accept the unacceptable. (Guards Guards 1989).
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:09 pm
by Uncle fester
Pre-emptive pardons for Fauci and others by Biden.
National emergency declared at US-Mexican border by Trump.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:18 pm
by inactionman
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:09 pm
Pre-emptive pardons for Fauci and others by Biden.
National emergency declared at US-Mexican border by Trump.
He's sending the Army, presumably just in case the dehydrated and malnourished migrants have snuck a tank across the Rio Grande.
He does play to a very venal, cynical crowd.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:18 pm
by Slick
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:09 pm
Pre-emptive pardons for Fauci and others by Biden.
National emergency declared at US-Mexican border by Trump.
It's literally 3rd world Junta stuff.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:02 pm
by inactionman
Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) program is expected to be sued within minutes of Donald Trump being sworn in.
The 30-page lawsuit, obtained by The Washington Post, challenges the legality of the government advisory committee Trump claims he’ll create, by alleging it violates federal transparency rules on disclosure, hiring and other practices.
Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) program is expected to be sued within minutes of Donald Trump being sworn in.
The 30-page lawsuit, obtained by The Washington Post, challenges the legality of the government advisory committee Trump claims he’ll create, by alleging it violates federal transparency rules on disclosure, hiring and other practices.
Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) program is expected to be sued within minutes of Donald Trump being sworn in.
The 30-page lawsuit, obtained by The Washington Post, challenges the legality of the government advisory committee Trump claims he’ll create, by alleging it violates federal transparency rules on disclosure, hiring and other practices.
In any sane world you'd have Musk nowhere near anything.
Nor Trump
Pains me to think it, but at least he was elected
That's absolutely true.
Though you do wonder how, in a sane world, out of all of the millions of Americans, Trump gets elected president. And not once, but twice.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:44 pm
by convoluted
As per myself, are y"all feeling suddenly and gloriously unburdened of what has been?
Suck it up guys.
And gee whizz, the '10 percent for the Big Guy fella' has just slipped in a last-second pardon for all members of the Biden Crime Family literally just moments before Trump was inaugurated.
Done while everyone was otherwise distracted.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:54 pm
by Niegs
Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:37 pm
Bit woke going inside because it’s a bit chilly
Snowflakes ... for snowflakes?
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:32 pm
by Hal Jordan
Going to Mars, eh? I wonder who's getting that contract?
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:15 pm
by Gumboot
"I was saved by God to make America great again."
No one could ever accuse St Donald of having delusions of grandeur.
Re: President Biden and US politics catchall
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:46 pm
by Enzedder
The pardons make good sense. Drumpf's attacks on them would be purely political so why not cut off the fool before he can get his revenge strokes in.
has he really? I was listening to the news in the car earlier and laughed to myself that he would try and take credit
