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you should expect far greater scrutiny of your business history

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:18 am

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:13 am

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:05 am What would absolutely force the issue is if all those who voted against him in the ballot, quit the party and crossed the floor as independents. His majority would be down the drain and he would have no choice. Will they have the balls to do it? doubtful, most of them are invertebrates

That would end their careers as MPs though.. the Tories won't give them their seats back.

Not so sure about that, especially if they threaten to run against the official Tory candidate and split the vote. Self interest of the party will come first, they will rejoin once the bumblecunt is dust

dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:44 am The Blonde Bumblecunt shitshow finishing exactly as I knew it would ... in chaos, infighting, back stabbing and scratching each others faces. As usual this empire built on 'charismatic' leadership has run into the sand a bit like others before them, the most obvious one being Trump. As soon as the glue that holds them all together - lies, deceit, crookedness, self interest, overblown egos, etc - gets fully exposed and comes out into the open then they take fright and desert the sinking ship. The McDonald letter was masterful in its timing and wording - it tore apart the whole charade in a methodical and surgeon like series of cuts.

Of course there are and always will be the loyal servants, they have too much personally invested in the BB to cut loose, they have been brain washed and believe their own shite and will cling on for as long as possible but they are a diminishing rump of idiots, such as the adorable Nadine. Those who jump ship will now be eager to distance themselves as far as possible from the BB so expect some really damaging stories to emerge from them about how they felt awful about it but want to 'cleanse their souls' before running their leadership campaign. It will be far far worse than any of us ever imagined! The influence of Russia in both Vote Leave and then funding of the Tory party will emerge and plunge the Tories into deep do do land. I strongly suspect the Civil Service and other Gov agencies will also get into the act and 'leak' some more interesting and damaging info, such as PPE contracts or 'secret' donations. It will be a complete and utter shit show and we will be astonished about the depths of criminality that will be exposed.

The Blonde Bumblecunt will end up either in jail or probably, like Trump standing at the side of the road shouting at passing lorries. However unlike Trump I don't think Carrie will be with him, she will jump ships as she has done throughout her whole life and find another rich Tory to latch onto and maintain her lifestyle. The rest of his acolytes will end up on GB News alongside Laurence Fox and other covid deniers telling porkies to UKIP supporters.

Dogbert wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:15 am

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:38 am

Dogbert wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:36 am

The Crown /Monarchy absolutely get involved in politics - they just try to keep it quiet

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... nment-memo

Sure like any vastly wealthy individual/corporation she will do some lobbying. Prince Charles loves it as well. But there is a difference between using power and influence to lobby (wrong but not constitution threatening) to outright refusing bills. Imagine she refused to give a bill that threatened Sandringham assent which had been passed in the houses.

So the monarchy do get involved in politics then

Yes of course I can't imagine the Crown refusing to sign off bills , but having them amended beforehand certainly seems to happen, and unlike any other powerful lobby group there is always that implied threat that they could refuse to sign bills.

The crown has maintained a back channel to sneak amendments into legislation in such a way as to leave no way for the public or their parliamentary representatives to ever know that changes had been requested or made . I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:26 am So, it's all Alastair Campbell's fault

Watch this space?

you should expect far greater scrutiny of your business history

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:29 am There is a heavy innuendo in Alastair Campbell's reply to Zahawi about the latter's business history coming into close scrutiny now that he is Chancellor.

Whatever can he mean?

Apart from that, I see an old story about Zahawi has resurfaced about the time he claimed £5K expenses for electricity bills for his estate, part of which was used to heat the stables.

We're all in it together, levelling up etc.

I expect my stables and horses are in the post.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:35 pm

C T wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:13 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:04 pm Steve Barclay to Health. Zahawi to no ten, likely new chancellor. He's appointing new ministers, he'll try to ride this out.

Seems about right, not entirely surprising. Perhaps going to go down as one of the most selfish PM's in history, without a single care given about the damage he's causing so long as he stays in power.

Personally I think he's lost that majority of the party now and if another no confidence vote is held I think he will lose, and I think he will lose quite heavily. Those publicly supporting are just crapping on themselves at the moment.

Beginning of the end I think, but not for a while until the 1922 committee figure out how to hold another vote.

Beginning of the end again is it?

Johnson will tear down anyone and anything to keep power. Joke of a country.

petej wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:49 am Feel like pmq's will be worth watching today.

tc27 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:57 am

petej wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:49 am Feel like pmq's will be worth watching today.

Will be an anticlimax.

I really think it will be this week now.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:21 am

tc27 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:57 am

petej wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:49 am Feel like pmq's will be worth watching today.

Will be an anticlimax.

I really think it will be this week now.

They call this Prime Ministers Questions, because there's never any Answers, & that's the damn problem.

What's the point of a Speaker, if they don't stop the evasions; indeed, what is the point of PMQs ?

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:02 pm Gove is next, you heard it here first.

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:02 pm Gove is next, you heard it here first.

One of Boris Johnson's allies claimed that Rishi Sunak and Sajid Javid had failed to "tap up" support from other cabinet ministers, before announcing their resignations on Tuesday evening, although one more minister has yet to make his intentions clear.

ia801310 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:42 pm Boris is going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming



I don't mean that as a euphemism, I actually think he will have to be physically dragged out like Julian Assange

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:31 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:23 am

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:13 am

The queen absolutely could not ever do it anyway no matter any principle. The monarchy absolutely cannot get involved in politics, that's the deal.

Yeah I get that, but there are circumstances where non-involvement is also involvement. I.e. if Labour opposed a snap election, could the Queen be certain that the wish for an early election right now commands the confidence of the House?

Yes because she has to, she absolutely cannot make the decision on what might or might not win majority support of the house. Non involvement can be involvement but it would be unprecedented in her reign if she started making political decisions about elections. Just won't happen.

ia801310 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:42 pm Boris is going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming



I don't mean that as a euphemism, I actually think he will have to be physically dragged out like Julian Assange

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:08 pm He doesn't have a mandate, that party does, and if the party do not want him as leader, he has to go. In effect, he is sacked

Dogbert wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:36 am The Crown /Monarchy absolutely get involved in politics - they just try to keep it quiet

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... nment-memo

ASMO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:08 pm He doesn't have a mandate, that party does, and if the party do not want him as leader, he has to go. In effect, he is sacked