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Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

sefton wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:51 pm

Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

WTF, ethnic cleansing endorsed by the leader of the free world.

sefton wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:51 pm

Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

WTF, ethnic cleansing endorsed by the leader of the free world.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:09 pm Bill being prepared to secure possibility for a third term for Trump. Carefully worded to stop Obama going for a third term.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:09 pm Carefully worded

robmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:47 pm

sefton wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:51 pm

Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

WTF, ethnic cleansing endorsed by the leader of the free world.

It's what Biden and co were tacitly supporting anyway. Trump is just uncouth enough to say it.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:39 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:09 pm Carefully worded

"Only white, republican nominees called Donald" ?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:39 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:09 pm Carefully worded

"Only white, republican nominees called Donald" ?

TB63 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:14 pm Coffee and cocaine going to be very expensive in the US tomorrow..

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:55 pm

TB63 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:14 pm Coffee and cocaine going to be very expensive in the US tomorrow..

Yeah, he hasn’t thought this through

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:31 pm Vance is a major upgrade on Pence and for that matter Harris. He is very bright and communicates well.

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:31 pm Vance is a major upgrade on Pence and for that matter Harris. He is very bright and communicates well.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:31 pm Vance is a major upgrade on Pence and for that matter Harris. He is very bright and communicates well.

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:08 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:31 pm Vance is a major upgrade on Pence and for that matter Harris. He is very bright and communicates well.

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

Pretty clearly she was a poor communicator, it’s been a big talking point from Democrats as to why they lost the election

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:27 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:08 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

Pretty clearly she was a poor communicator, it’s been a big talking point from Democrats as to why they lost the election

Wow... we are totally into the Alternative Facts Universe now.

I'll be kind... I think Harris is an excellent communicator who struck a chord with her audience. I think the Democrats let her campaign down by maintaining the stale, out of touch vibe within the rest of the party not directly involved in her campaign. The Democrats at large being a difficult sell and an inability to cut through the noise and connect with a populist led movement already sucking deeply in the teat of the Kool Aid were more the issue rather than Harris being a poor communicator.

On top of that... Trump getting his ear scratched by a passing bullet and raising his fist to the sky in the aftermath was the pivotal point in that election. From there it was always going to be an uphill battle.

But sure, yeah... Harris is a poor communicator. Right on, dude.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:27 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:08 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

Pretty clearly she was a poor communicator, it’s been a big talking point from Democrats as to why they lost the election

Wow... we are totally into the Alternative Facts Universe now.

I'll be kind... I think Harris is an excellent communicator who struck a chord with her audience. I think the Democrats let her campaign down by maintaining the stale, out of touch vibe within the rest of the party not directly involved in her campaign. The Democrats at large being a difficult sell and an inability to cut through the noise and connect with a populist led movement already sucking deeply in the teat of the Kool Aid were more the issue rather than Harris being a poor communicator.

On top of that... Trump getting his ear scratched by a passing bullet and raising his fist to the sky in the aftermath was the pivotal point in that election. From there it was always going to be an uphill battle.

But sure, yeah... Harris is a poor communicator. Right on, dude.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:31 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:27 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:08 am

Pretty clearly she was a poor communicator, it’s been a big talking point from Democrats as to why they lost the election

Wow... we are totally into the Alternative Facts Universe now.

I'll be kind... I think Harris is an excellent communicator who struck a chord with her audience. I think the Democrats let her campaign down by maintaining the stale, out of touch vibe within the rest of the party not directly involved in her campaign. The Democrats at large being a difficult sell and an inability to cut through the noise and connect with a populist led movement already sucking deeply in the teat of the Kool Aid were more the issue rather than Harris being a poor communicator.

On top of that... Trump getting his ear scratched by a passing bullet and raising his fist to the sky in the aftermath was the pivotal point in that election. From there it was always going to be an uphill battle.

But sure, yeah... Harris is a poor communicator. Right on, dude.

If only there was some way of measuring whether she was an effective communicator when compared to an opponent. Perhaps people could be given a slip of paper, let’s call it a ballot, and then we can count up which one of them had more people choose them.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:51 am

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:31 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:27 am

Wow... we are totally into the Alternative Facts Universe now.

I'll be kind... I think Harris is an excellent communicator who struck a chord with her audience. I think the Democrats let her campaign down by maintaining the stale, out of touch vibe within the rest of the party not directly involved in her campaign. The Democrats at large being a difficult sell and an inability to cut through the noise and connect with a populist led movement already sucking deeply in the teat of the Kool Aid were more the issue rather than Harris being a poor communicator.

On top of that... Trump getting his ear scratched by a passing bullet and raising his fist to the sky in the aftermath was the pivotal point in that election. From there it was always going to be an uphill battle.

But sure, yeah... Harris is a poor communicator. Right on, dude.

If only there was some way of measuring whether she was an effective communicator when compared to an opponent. Perhaps people could be given a slip of paper, let’s call it a ballot, and then we can count up which one of them had more people choose them.

Hmmm. That does somewhat ignore all the other things an election is based on, eg the big talking points and where the candidates stand, how much they are in sync with their own base, what baggage they bring.

Harris was the person who took over from a legendarily unpopular president and didn't distance herself from more of the same, didn't manage to address any of things that were hurting the base, was seen as an establishment pick, and offered absolutely jack shit to people wanting change that wasn't in the form of a Republican.

I would also argue that the last 12 years have shown that being a good personal communicator also does not matter in the USA compared to a) force of personality and b) effective campaign messaging, which is something a gigantic political machine handles (extremely badly, in this case!)

It is really interesting seeing the hot takes from the Dem pundit class, though. Most of them don't match reality in any sense and are just ways to avoid saying their preferred strategy was garbage. Anything to avoid a little self reflection or understanding of why so many people simply refused to vote for their candidate.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:51 am It is really interesting seeing the hot takes from the Dem pundit class, though. Most of them don't match reality in any sense and are just ways to avoid saying their preferred strategy was garbage. Anything to avoid a little self reflection or understanding of why so many people simply refused to vote for their candidate.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:31 pm Vance is a major upgrade on Pence and for that matter Harris. He is very bright and communicates well.

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

Hugo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:19 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:31 pm Vance is a major upgrade on Pence and for that matter Harris. He is very bright and communicates well.

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

That's not what I said. That's not what I said at all, in fact I don't know how you would construe that from what I wrote.

I said he is an upgrade on the last two VPs and I stand by that. He is.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:40 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:19 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:19 am

Harris is dumb and can't communicate well?

That's not what I said. That's not what I said at all, in fact I don't know how you would construe that from what I wrote.

I said he is an upgrade on the last two VPs and I stand by that. He is.

You gave two areas where he's an improvement/upgrade: brains and talking. I challenged you on that. So did 1/2 a dozen other Boardies....

Britain has ‘first dibs’ on Greenland, island’s last Danish minister says

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:50 pm
You do realise that one person out of two can be better at something and the other not be incapable? That there is a whole spectrum of abilities?

inactionman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:02 pm

Britain has ‘first dibs’ on Greenland, island’s last Danish minister says

Worth just for the fecking lols

Offer to swap it for the original colonies

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... c-maga-us/

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:50 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:40 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:19 pm

That's not what I said. That's not what I said at all, in fact I don't know how you would construe that from what I wrote.

I said he is an upgrade on the last two VPs and I stand by that. He is.

You gave two areas where he's an improvement/upgrade: brains and talking. I challenged you on that. So did 1/2 a dozen other Boardies....

You do realise that one person out of two can be better at something and the other not be incapable? That there is a whole spectrum of abilities?

Thousands of immigrants have simply disappeared and not turned up for work...thats the food pickers.

Eggs rose 37 percent this week in US shops as supply to retailers slumped...bread and vegetables are also rising as supply hubs realise the produce coming in is simply insufficient to meet demand...the shelves are emptying.

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:29 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:02 pm

Britain has ‘first dibs’ on Greenland, island’s last Danish minister says

Worth just for the fecking lols

Offer to swap it for the original colonies

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... c-maga-us/

Wait until he takes Canada and then swap it for that?

Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:23 pm is this true? Just a twatter post.

Thousands of immigrants have simply disappeared and not turned up for work...thats the food pickers.

Eggs rose 37 percent this week in US shops as supply to retailers slumped...bread and vegetables are also rising as supply hubs realise the produce coming in is simply insufficient to meet demand...the shelves are emptying.

U.S. reported first outbreak of H5N9 bird flu in poultry, WOAH says