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Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:10 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:08 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:07 pm Fuck off Aki, ought to cop a ban for that. Graceless one eyed pricks
100% should be a ban.

The kind of thing you see in lower league football. It was clear as day on the screen he wasn’t in touch.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:11 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:08 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:06 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:05 pm Hell of a try. Hell of a game. No idea why the crowd are booing and this carry on from the players is so poor, it was clearly a try.

Connacht tried to kill the game from 60 mins and let Leicester run at them, probably the inevitable outcome
See above ^^^
Come on Torq, they clearly thought it was in touch, nothing to do with a marginal breakdown call. The crowd were jubilant because they thought he was in touch even though the foot was about 8 inches off the ground at the point of the replay they started cheering

Yeah. Looks that way too and very poor behaviour by the players regardless.

Don't think the call was marginal. It was poor. But the breakdown is becoming a lottery again in every game. Surprised Connacht simply didn't give away the pen and risk the lineout.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:11 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:09 pm
Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:03 pm Just watching the Wasps game now. 20 minutes in, a Toulouse player kicks the ball back across the dead ball line whilst lying on the floor. The ref says it's all part of the motion, but the replay clearly shows he falls to the ground when trying to get it in his arms, and whilst on the ground, then lashes out with a foot. That's a penalty try and yellow card surely.
I thought that, but it passed by with so little incident I thought I'd remembered the law wrong.

A player asked about it, and the ref said he thought it was OK. Considering the ball went dead, and it's a potential penalty try, I'd have thought it was worth a second look. The replay in my mind is pretty conclusive.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:12 pm**

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:03 pm Just watching the Wasps game now. 20 minutes in, a Toulouse player kicks the ball back across the dead ball line whilst lying on the floor. The ref says it's all part of the motion, but the replay clearly shows he falls to the ground when trying to get it in his arms, and whilst on the ground, then lashes out with a foot. That's a penalty try and yellow card surely.

Yes, that's how it looked to me. Also there was a charge-down by a Wasps player in Toulouse's right hand corner that looked like a goalkeeper's save to me. Maybe my eyes deceived me.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:15 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:10 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:08 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:07 pm Fuck off Aki, ought to cop a ban for that. Graceless one eyed pricks
100% should be a ban.
The kind of thing you see in lower league football. It was clear as day on the screen he wasn’t in touch.

it doesn't even matter if the ref's decision is right. Once they've made it players have no place going at them like that, particularly after the final whistle.

What's the intended outcome there? Ref suddenly goes 'Oh you know what, actually I was mistaken and I'm now going to overturn the result'?

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:16 pm**

Just on the red card now. First contact is technically on the ball, but I can't really argue the red card to honest. Balls. I don't see that being overturned. That's going to be a 5-6 week ban for Umaga.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:19 pm**

Back to the Toulouse game and specifically Jelonch

À l’image de ses dernières sorties, le troisième ligne toulousain n’a pas eu le rendement habituel sur la pelouse du CBS Arena. Positionné en numéro huit, il n’a jamais ou presque mis le Stade toulousain dans l’avancée. Discret ballon en main, il s’est montré actif en défense sans pour autant marquer ses adversaires. Passé près du carton rouge à la 54ème minute, il n’a "finalement" reçu qu’un carton jaune. Une biscotte qui a mis un point d’honneur à une prestation médiocre.

- Basically he contributed f**k all, never getting his team on the front foot and nothing with ball in hand and it's been like that in games recently
- He was very lucky not to be red carded for his stupidity

Really needs to be jettisoned from the French squad on current form.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:19 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:15 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:10 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:08 pm

100% should be a ban.
The kind of thing you see in lower league football. It was clear as day on the screen he wasn’t in touch.
it doesn't even matter if the ref's decision is right. Once they've made it players have no place going at them like that, particularly after the final whistle.

What's the intended outcome there? Ref suddenly goes 'Oh you know what, actually I was mistaken and I'm now going to overturn the result'?

Players, particularly senior ones, have been allowed to carry on with the refs for a few seasons now. This is the inevitable end result and the refs have woken up to it too late

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:22 pm**

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:16 pm Just on the red card now. First contact is technically on the ball, but I can't really argue the red card to honest. Balls. I don't see that being overturned. That's going to be a 5-6 week ban for Umaga.

Is that the lowest ban possible for that? Seems very harsh. I would have thought 3weeks max.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:23 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:19 pm Players, particularly senior ones, have been allowed to carry on with the refs for a few seasons now. This is the inevitable end result and the refs have woken up to it too late

I've been banging on about this for decades now. No player should be allowed to speak with the ref, bar the captain, unless it's to bring attention to something like an injury. All this yabbering ("Ref, ref") to stop. Pen every time it happens.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:24 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:22 pm
Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:16 pm Just on the red card now. First contact is technically on the ball, but I can't really argue the red card to honest. Balls. I don't see that being overturned. That's going to be a 5-6 week ban for Umaga.
Is that the lowest ban possible for that? Seems very harsh. I would have thought 3weeks max.

He's literally just come back off a 2 week ban for a high upright tackle, and just done a tackle course to reduce that down from 3. There's no way he's getting significant reduction off the 6 weeks this time.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:25 pm**

petej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:22 pm
Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:16 pm Just on the red card now. First contact is technically on the ball, but I can't really argue the red card to honest. Balls. I don't see that being overturned. That's going to be a 5-6 week ban for Umaga.
Is that the lowest ban possible for that? Seems very harsh. I would have thought 3weeks max.

It’s his second red card in as many games, so he won’t get any time knocked off for good behaviour, even if the ban is as the lower end of the tariff.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:28 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:23 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:19 pm Players, particularly senior ones, have been allowed to carry on with the refs for a few seasons now. This is the inevitable end result and the refs have woken up to it too late
I've been banging on about this for decades now. No player should be allowed to speak with the ref, bar the captain, unless it's to bring attention to something like an injury. All this yabbering ("Ref, ref") to stop. Pen every time it happens.

And the ref had already warned Aki for complaining during the match, and told him that he would only talk to Connaught’s Captain.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:47 pm**

RIP anyone playing a drinking game that involves Andy Nichol referencing the last game in Scotstoun.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:49 pm**

Stating the obvious, but Bath really are pathetic.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:58 pm**

Chief's physically dominating Glasgow at the moment.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:08 pm**

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:14 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Happyhooker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:09 pm I'll happily take that. I like the way our season is going. The last 2 games have been so much better than anything earlier in the season.
HH, did you know a guy called Micky Ireland when you were at the club?
I think you've asked me this before, but no, not off hand, but then I did leave when I was 18 and have an appalling memory for names.

Ahh OK, sorry. Just i thought I saw him in the crowd but I also thought he was dead

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:14 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:23 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:19 pm Players, particularly senior ones, have been allowed to carry on with the refs for a few seasons now. This is the inevitable end result and the refs have woken up to it too late
I've been banging on about this for decades now. No player should be allowed to speak with the ref, bar the captain, unless it's to bring attention to something like an injury. All this yabbering ("Ref, ref") to stop. Pen every time it happens.

Exactly.

I was quite surprised earlier at the amount of appealing the Wasps team were doing.

It’s easy enough to stop it so I’ve no idea why the authorities keep letting it go. I’ve heard it said that football allows it because it adds to the drama but I really hope we are not going down that route

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:17 pm**

La Rochelle cruising through their game it seems.

Annoyed I can't watch any of this in the US.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:23 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:17 pm La Rochelle cruising through their game it seems.

Annoyed I can't watch any of this in the US.

http://www.live7v.com/c/rugby-union/eur ... vs-bath/1/

Should work. With a VPN maybe?

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:27 pm**

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:14 pm Exactly.

I was quite surprised earlier at the amount of appealing the Wasps team were doing.

It’s easy enough to stop it so I’ve no idea why the authorities keep letting it go. I’ve heard it said that football allows it because it adds to the drama but I really hope we are not going down that route

Just runs into the ridiculous. In a football game today, a goal was scored and awarded. Might have been an offside but would have been impossible for the officials to see. No VAR. The players and dugout of the defending team basically complained for a couple of minutes and the goal was overturned after the replay was seen on a mobile phone!

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:44 pm**

Very different try to Glasgow's that one, but they all count.

Good to vary the quick tap approach.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:46 pm**

Interesting to see both sets of flankers apoplectic at not being given pens as soon as they get hands on the ball carrier, even when they steal the ball. Rucks following scrums in existing to win penalties rather than anything else.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:47 pm**

Just watching the Exeter game and off an Exeter lineout 5m out they set up the catch & drive. No problem. However, Whitten decides to run in from centre and joins the maul from the side but also at least a metre ahead of the actual ball carrier. This happened right in front of where the ref was looking.

That is against the Laws isn't it or am I wrong (again)?

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:49 pm**

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:47 pm Just watching the Exeter game and off an Exeter lineout 5m out they set up the catch & drive. No problem. However, Whitten decides to run in from centre and joins the maul from the side but also at least a metre ahead of the actual ball carrier. This happened right in front of where the ref was looking.

That is against the Laws isn't it or am I wrong (again)?

As I understand it, it's against the laws. Enforcement of maul offences committed by the team in possession is a once in a blue moon event, though.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:52 pm**

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:47 pm Just watching the Exeter game and off an Exeter lineout 5m out they set up the catch & drive. No problem. However, Whitten decides to run in from centre and joins the maul from the side but also at least a metre ahead of the actual ball carrier. This happened right in front of where the ref was looking.

That is against the Laws isn't it or am I wrong (again)?

Players joining a maul must: Do so from an onside position. Bind on to the hindmost player in the maul.

Seems pretty clear to me

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:54 pm**

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:47 pm Just watching the Exeter game and off an Exeter lineout 5m out they set up the catch & drive. No problem. However, Whitten decides to run in from centre and joins the maul from the side but also at least a metre ahead of the actual ball carrier. This happened right in front of where the ref was looking.

That is against the Laws isn't it or am I wrong (again)?

Refs ignore joining by the ball carrying side all the time.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:55 pm**

Bath need to f**k off.This is abject.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:59 pm**

Exeter really starting to run away with this now. Shickerling's really transformed the Chiefs' set piece. Really don't see the point of Iosefa-Scott.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:55 pm Bath need to f**k off.This is abject.

Just looked at the score. Not exactly unexpected, but even still

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:02 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:59 pm Exeter really starting to run away with this now. Shickerling's really transformed the Chiefs' set piece. Really don't see the point of Iosefa-Scott.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:55 pm Bath need to f**k off.This is abject.
Just looked at the score. Not exactly unexpected, but even still

It's alright. LaR have switched off to allow some respectability now

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:04 pm**

I don't think there can be a side in the NH as sh*t at the rolling maul as LaR. Given the size of their pack, it's pitifully poor.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:12 pm**

A dominant second half from Exeter after the early Glasgow try. Half century comes up on the scoreboard.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:31 pm**

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:08 pm
Happyhooker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:14 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:10 pm

HH, did you know a guy called Micky Ireland when you were at the club?
I think you've asked me this before, but no, not off hand, but then I did leave when I was 18 and have an appalling memory for names.
Ahh OK, sorry. Just i thought I saw him in the crowd but I also thought he was dead

Are we all just letting them NG this pass without comment

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:47 pm**

Something I've never seen before in the LI v Edinburgh game earlier. Scuffle off the ball was looked at by the TMO and Creevy shown a yellow card for a hand to the face. He complained so much about what had happened before that the ref actually told the TMO to look at it again.

At which point he unearthed pictures of Creevy headbutting an Edinburgh player and he was red carded instead.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:52 pm**

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:47 pm Something I've never seen before in the LI v Edinburgh game earlier. Scuffle off the ball was looked at by the TMO and Creevy shown a yellow card for a hand to the face. He complained so much about what had happened before and the ref actually told the TMO to look at it again.

At which point he unearthed pictures of Creevy headbutting an Edinburgh player and he was red carded instead.

And still Ed contrived to lose.....

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:07 pm**

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:47 pm Something I've never seen before in the LI v Edinburgh game earlier. Scuffle off the ball was looked at by the TMO and Creevy shown a yellow card for a hand to the face. He complained so much about what had happened before that the ref actually told the TMO to look at it again.

At which point he unearthed pictures of Creevy headbutting an Edinburgh player and he was red carded instead.

Surreal!

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:17 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:52 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:47 pm Something I've never seen before in the LI v Edinburgh game earlier. Scuffle off the ball was looked at by the TMO and Creevy shown a yellow card for a hand to the face. He complained so much about what had happened before and the ref actually told the TMO to look at it again.

At which point he unearthed pictures of Creevy headbutting an Edinburgh player and he was red carded instead.
And still Ed contrived to lose.....

I didn't see the game but I'm told the ref bottled it at the last scrum in front of LI's posts on 80 mins, LI front row folded but got the penalty.

Shit happens.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:27 pm**

That was a lovely try. Really well worked.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:28 pm**

Bristol are going well tonight.

When Radradra is playing like this you have to think everyone needs a Semi,

ahem

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:35 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:28 pm Bristol are going well tonight.

When Radradra is playing like this you have to think everyone needs a Semi,

ahem

Don't read too much into that. Hard to fathom how Quesda still has a job at Paris. Highest budget in T14 I think and been playing like drains for 2 years. Lumpy recently got the top award with Sopaga as the "biggest flops" this season to date. In a relegation battle when they field their 1st team. This is something less than that and it's clear those on the pitch aren't even trying.

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