ONS pilot survey suggests an increase last week.Saint wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:37 pm Positive tests in the UK plateauing a bit, even creeping up slightly. It would be good to understand how many of these were tests triggered by track and trace methods, particularly of asymptomatic cases. If they form a decent chunk of that number then I would actually see this as a positive that over time will lead to the number really being driven down.
So, coronavirus...
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
This is definitely the case.
Looking at the death rate dropping despite the new cases remaining static.
But there is also the other variable that we might be better at testing and diagnosing it than before.
So many historical unreported cases.
My wife just received a random antibody test. Any others received one through the post?
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There's also a changing demographic in who are the new cases.Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:30 pmThis is definitely the case.
Looking at the death rate dropping despite the new cases remaining static.
But there is also the other variable that we might be better at testing and diagnosing it than before.
So many historical unreported cases.
My wife just received a random antibody test. Any others received one through the post?
The older demographics are more conscious of their vulnerability, so they are being careful; the young think their invulnerable, & they go back out partying.
There's been a major change in the group of people who are now getting infected; & they have the advantage of having a better chance of getting thru a hospitalization.
We're still overall in the same situation as we were in March; where the important thing is keeping the number of cases down, so the Health service isn't swamped by the percentage that need care; the difference is that the people being hospitalized are 30/40 years younger, & are only being hospitalized because they thought this wouldn't affect them !
. No dining in, mask wearing in all public places, no exceptions even for smoking or exercising (
‘kenoath! There’s a good chance Of HK setting himself alight while simultaneously smoking, drinking OP liquor and doing preacher curls in the privacy of his own etc.
One of the other things about the US is how long it takes for testing to go through its cycle. From what’s circulating on line, it’s taking a few days to get a test appointment and then anything up to a week (in extreme cases more than that) to get results through. So the stated figures are up to a week behind what the actual situation is.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Surge of new cases in Europe linked to the yoof. Maybe they should offer free covid infections to all those who want it.
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Just another 68% to get to the magical, 'Herd Immunity' numbers ...
Of course by then, knowing Florida, we'll be about 3 months past the; 'cracking each others skulls & feasting on the goo inside', threshold.
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More about having a moron for a Govenor, & being a destination for Spring Breakers.
The Retirees are significant; if I remember correctly ~20% of the population are >60; but the demographics of the infected over the last number of weeks, is of a significantly younger group.
Plus the spring break morons.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:16 pmMore about having a moron for a Govenor, & being a destination for Spring Breakers.
The Retirees are significant; if I remember correctly ~20% of the population are >60; but the demographics of the infected over the last number of weeks, is of a significantly younger group.
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If the Governor had closed their destinations, like he was advised to; they wouldn't have been a problem; for Florida.BnM wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:22 pmPlus the spring break morons.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:16 pmMore about having a moron for a Governor, & being a destination for Spring Breakers.
The Retirees are significant; if I remember correctly ~20% of the population are >60; but the demographics of the infected over the last number of weeks, is of a significantly younger group.
Remember; most of them come to Florida for 7-10 days, drink the bars dry, burn on the beaches, & piss off back home.
The people who are testing positive now, aren't Spring Breakers; they're the people who worked in the bars, or stood in line with them at supermarkets, etc etc.
So many now ignoring it all.
People hugging in the streets, not even trying to keep a distance any more.
The way I see it...
The guidance may be flawed. But if people can fall in line and follow it, then our chief science guys can tweak it and measure noticeable effect.
The youngsters are now completely ignoring it. So it’s pretty much impossible to make appropriate changes to manage the R
People hugging in the streets, not even trying to keep a distance any more.
The way I see it...
The guidance may be flawed. But if people can fall in line and follow it, then our chief science guys can tweak it and measure noticeable effect.
The youngsters are now completely ignoring it. So it’s pretty much impossible to make appropriate changes to manage the R
Our only realistic long term hope is in better treating those infected.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
You can bet your bottom dollar that our slug of a PM won't be anywhere near a microphone today.
World class response to the Coronavirus my arse
World class response to the Coronavirus my arse
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881England had the highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between the end of February and the middle of June, official analysis shows
This is why Spain's numbers have sky-rocketed. Young people know it won't affect them much, so they just wear the mask (for legal reasons) when walking around in view.
As soon as they are out of site, they all sit 1/2 foot apart like usual. And you can be sure they aren't washing their bloody hands either.
Edit: 1st round of super-spreaders: Care-home workers. 2nd round: teenagers
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Err he is in N Yorkshire today, already done a press conference.SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:35 pm You can bet your bottom dollar that our slug of a PM won't be anywhere near a microphone today.
World class response to the Coronavirus my arsehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881England had the highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between the end of February and the middle of June, official analysis shows
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As much as Boris is a buffoon at times, you can hardly blame him for all the deaths. There will be many factors why our death rate is so high, but having the most internationally connected city in the world will be one. The government were playing catch up from day one, and hopefully now they have "learned lessons". How governments deal with a second wave/surge will be the test IMO
Apologies. I'd read it was a pre-recorded clip. He was asked questionsGlaston wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:11 pmErr he is in N Yorkshire today, already done a press conference.SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:35 pm You can bet your bottom dollar that our slug of a PM won't be anywhere near a microphone today.
World class response to the Coronavirus my arsehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881England had the highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between the end of February and the middle of June, official analysis shows
As usual very upbeat about the way the government are handling it
We mourn every loss of life that we’ve had throughout the coronavirus epidemic.
What I would say to them [families of the deceased] is that we really owe it to them to continue our work in driving the virus down.
Clearly this country has had a massive success now in reducing the numbers of those tragic deaths.
We’ve got it at the moment under some measure of control. The numbers of deaths are well, well down.
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Aye right. We should have forgotten about vaccines for endemic diseases like polio, Tetanus, Measles, smallpox and just lived with them. Sheesh. Think before engaging your typing finger.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:28 pm Our only realistic long term hope is in better treating those infected.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
No, we need a vaccine for anything like normality as we have known it.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:28 pm Our only realistic long term hope is in better treating those infected.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
You are right about the current issue of controlling transmission though. Some people are either not up to rational thought or are too selfish to observe some simple common sense measures.
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Surely this is an instance where fewer is correct rather than less.
Also *massive eyeroll*. I know people inked from neck to toe with more and better quality teeth than coffee addicts and smokers whose skin is blank.
A bit dismissive.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:46 pmAye right. We should have forgotten about vaccines for endemic diseases like polio, Tetanus, Measles, smallpox and just lived with them. Sheesh. Think before engaging your typing finger.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:28 pm Our only realistic long term hope is in better treating those infected.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
I think this is now with us. Vaccine to be rolled out is too far away in a global manner. And let’s face it it’s just going to mutate so even then a vaccine will at best be seasonal.
I’ve caught a cold and also the flu more than once.
All the evidence is that it mutates a lot more slowly than flu. So not seasonal. And flu has multiple strains all mutating differently. More like a five to ten year booster shot.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:25 pmA bit dismissive.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:46 pmAye right. We should have forgotten about vaccines for endemic diseases like polio, Tetanus, Measles, smallpox and just lived with them. Sheesh. Think before engaging your typing finger.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:28 pm Our only realistic long term hope is in better treating those infected.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
I think this is now with us. Vaccine to be rolled out is too far away in a global manner. And let’s face it it’s just going to mutate so even then a vaccine will at best be seasonal.
I’ve caught a cold and also the flu more than once.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Another internet expert.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:25 pmA bit dismissive.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:46 pmAye right. We should have forgotten about vaccines for endemic diseases like polio, Tetanus, Measles, smallpox and just lived with them. Sheesh. Think before engaging your typing finger.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:28 pm Our only realistic long term hope is in better treating those infected.
Forget eradicating it and vaccine. Too late for that.
Though until the treating of it is of high enough standard, transmission is the only thing we can control.
But not when people ignore it.
I think this is now with us. Vaccine to be rolled out is too far away in a global manner. And let’s face it it’s just going to mutate so even then a vaccine will at best be seasonal.
I’ve caught a cold and also the flu more than once.
All those scientists at oxford and around the world, stop what you're doing and listen to this guy!
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