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Biffer wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:28 am
Dogbert wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:25 am
Biffer wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:24 pm Mike Luckovich, editorial cartoonist for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution since 1989, has had his twitter account suspended for this cartoon

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Mike Luckovich himself has confirmed on his own twitter account that this is fake , and his account was not suspended.

Just because we want to believe things , do not make them true , the trouble these days is that social media is much better in confirming our bias , rather than spreading truth
Right, just seen that - but it was Mike himself that posted it, so it wasn't unreasonable to believe the source in this case!
So Mike himself fell into the same trap, posted fake news , possibly because he also wanted to believe that he had banned by twitter , as it would play well with his audience, and his followers then repost , so it almost becomes the truth , even if it is false

I would have be very easy for Mike to confirm with twitter whether his account was actually suspended , you have to wonder why he didn't.
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SaintK wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:46 am
Yeeb wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:16 am
SaintK wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:57 am
Yeah of course it is. I'm sure those blue collar rust belt workers, small business owners, and small scale farming communities are not going to find it quite as refreshing as you do in a couple of months.
Well there is an element of ‘they voted for it so lolz’ plus farmers may benefit if their produce goes up in price because tariffs whacked on imports.

Also, it will hopefully encourage a different type of response from the other political parties and offer something viable and successful . Around the world if you think the leaders are shit, you have to wonder at the quality of opposition.
Excellent article in the Weekend FT how tariffs are already causing issues in the supply chain and are projected to increase unemployment as Mom and Pa and SME businesses lay people off or go bust and welfare support and medical aid are slashed
Buyers remorse already started in some of the "red" states and we're only a month or so in.
Still as long as the cunt Musk and Trump cronies and funders are getting richer by the week then all is good!
It is strange he’s gone after tariffs so much when subsidies are clearly so much more effective (just look at China with EV’s, solar panels, consumer tech…).

Imposing tariffs up to the level that someone else currently charges for their shit, is fair enough though. Uk has broadly escaped for now thank god.
Trump absolutely embodies a pro trade capitalist who is actualy extremely protectionist and market distorter
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Yeeb wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:49 pm
SaintK wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:46 am
Yeeb wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:16 am
Well there is an element of ‘they voted for it so lolz’ plus farmers may benefit if their produce goes up in price because tariffs whacked on imports.

Also, it will hopefully encourage a different type of response from the other political parties and offer something viable and successful . Around the world if you think the leaders are shit, you have to wonder at the quality of opposition.
Excellent article in the Weekend FT how tariffs are already causing issues in the supply chain and are projected to increase unemployment as Mom and Pa and SME businesses lay people off or go bust and welfare support and medical aid are slashed
Buyers remorse already started in some of the "red" states and we're only a month or so in.
Still as long as the cunt Musk and Trump cronies and funders are getting richer by the week then all is good!
It is strange he’s gone after tariffs so much when subsidies are clearly so much more effective (just look at China with EV’s, solar panels, consumer tech…).

Imposing tariffs up to the level that someone else currently charges for their shit, is fair enough though. Uk has broadly escaped for now thank god.
Trump absolutely embodies a pro trade capitalist who is actualy extremely protectionist and market distorter
It seems to me that he thinks tariffs are free money he can pocket - c.f. subsidies which he'd have to pay out (even if it's taxpayer money) for someone else (even if a US taxpayer) to get the benefit.
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inactionman wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:13 pm
Yeeb wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:49 pm
SaintK wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:46 am
Excellent article in the Weekend FT how tariffs are already causing issues in the supply chain and are projected to increase unemployment as Mom and Pa and SME businesses lay people off or go bust and welfare support and medical aid are slashed
Buyers remorse already started in some of the "red" states and we're only a month or so in.
Still as long as the cunt Musk and Trump cronies and funders are getting richer by the week then all is good!
It is strange he’s gone after tariffs so much when subsidies are clearly so much more effective (just look at China with EV’s, solar panels, consumer tech…).

Imposing tariffs up to the level that someone else currently charges for their shit, is fair enough though. Uk has broadly escaped for now thank god.
Trump absolutely embodies a pro trade capitalist who is actualy extremely protectionist and market distorter
It seems to me that he thinks tariffs are free money he can pocket - c.f. subsidies which he'd have to pay out (even if it's taxpayer money) for someone else (even if a US taxpayer) to get the benefit.
The age old battle of carrot or stick. Sadly he is using them as tools to coerce will, not actual making things better for his electorate. Remains to be seen how the ‘fair and reciprocal’ thing pans out as the US does start from a low tariff base, so sadly I can see his ciewpoint on the ‘it’s not fair, it’s an atrocity’ type whinge.

Same also with nato and certain members not pulling their weight historically, another point where the UK broadly escapes his wrath at present.
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The don & his influence on Ukraine also been very good for my BAE shares this week has to be said :grin:
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Insane_Homer wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:55 pm
Lolz, very good
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Trump basically blackmailing Ukraine now - either sign over $500b worth of rights to mining deposits etc or else the US will withdraw all military support and leave Putin to do whatever he wants. So Ukraine either get financially raped by Trump or fight it out to last man standing with Putin and some meagre help from European partners. What a cunt Trump and his mobster mates are!
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dpedin wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:01 pm Trump basically blackmailing Ukraine now - either sign over $500b worth of rights to mining deposits etc or else the US will withdraw all military support and leave Putin to do whatever he wants. So Ukraine either get financially raped by Trump or fight it out to last man standing with Putin and some meagre help from European partners. What a cunt Trump and his mobster mates are!
They could use The Art of the Deal and just don't 'pay' out. Drag it out for three our four years, he's dead, done.

Once again, though, revealing his cards before any negotiations.

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Minnesota declares state of emergency over rose of aMPV, HPAI & H5N1

Eggs up 65% since start of 2024. I thought Trump was going to have that sorted on day 1?
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A good analysis of the NYC mayor scandal ... and I didn't expect a Star Wars reference at the end in something so otherwise professionally done. :grin:

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dpedin wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:01 pm Trump basically blackmailing Ukraine now - either sign over $500b worth of rights to mining deposits etc or else the US will withdraw all military support and leave Putin to do whatever he wants. So Ukraine either get financially raped by Trump or fight it out to last man standing with Putin and some meagre help from European partners. What a cunt Trump and his mobster mates are!
He's a cunt for wanting peace. And explaining the realities of this war. Ukraine will loss everything if they keep fighting (if they haven't already). That's what this war is all about. Not the West doing the righteous thing to help Ukraine and stop evil Russia. It's about the super rich making easy money from selling weapons for huge profits. And getting their hands on mining deposits for next to nothing etc.

Trump is helping the asleep to wake up
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Firewater wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:13 am
dpedin wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:01 pm Trump basically blackmailing Ukraine now - either sign over $500b worth of rights to mining deposits etc or else the US will withdraw all military support and leave Putin to do whatever he wants. So Ukraine either get financially raped by Trump or fight it out to last man standing with Putin and some meagre help from European partners. What a cunt Trump and his mobster mates are!
He's a cunt for wanting peace. And explaining the realities of this war. Ukraine will loss everything if they keep fighting (if they haven't already). That's what this war is all about. Not the West doing the righteous thing to help Ukraine and stop evil Russia. It's about the super rich making easy money from selling weapons for huge profits. And getting their hands on mining deposits for next to nothing etc.

Trump is helping the asleep to wake up
Hey, saw on another thread you are DAC - how’s it going Boyo ?

*brofist*
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Firewater wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:13 am Wibble
Here have your meds

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He did like his pills iirc - not sure they could be classified as ‘meds’ though
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Musk now uses his power as an unelected bureaucrat to sack FDA staff who were investigating neuralink. :bimbo:
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I don’t think that’s DAC. More likely it’s Convoluted. DAC wouldn’t have gone to the trouble of critiquing players in the Super rugby.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:11 am I don’t think that’s DAC. More likely it’s Convoluted. DAC wouldn’t have gone to the trouble of critiquing players in the Super rugby.
Well he couldn’t really critique wales now could he…
Jones - shit
Williams - shit
Thomas - shit
evans - shit
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Another body of water is getting a new name - at least according to Illinois.

In a social media post, Governor JB Pritzker announced the changes come after decades of studies.

“I’m here today to make an important announcement,” Gov. Pritzker started. “The world’s finest geographers, experts who study the Earth’s natural environment, have concluded a decades-long council and determined that a great lake deserves to be named after a great state. So today, I’m issuing a proclamation declaring that hereinafter, Lake Michigan shall be known as Lake Illinois. The proclamation has been forwarded to Google to ensure the world’s maps reflect this momentous change.”
https://www.wilx.com/2025/02/10/illinoi ... -illinois/
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inactionman wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:41 am
Another body of water is getting a new name - at least according to Illinois.

In a social media post, Governor JB Pritzker announced the changes come after decades of studies.

“I’m here today to make an important announcement,” Gov. Pritzker started. “The world’s finest geographers, experts who study the Earth’s natural environment, have concluded a decades-long council and determined that a great lake deserves to be named after a great state. So today, I’m issuing a proclamation declaring that hereinafter, Lake Michigan shall be known as Lake Illinois. The proclamation has been forwarded to Google to ensure the world’s maps reflect this momentous change.”
https://www.wilx.com/2025/02/10/illinoi ... -illinois/
I have it on good authority that Mexico has has requested that Google rename "Gulf of America" to "Golfo del Hombre Loco"
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President Trump’s newly installed health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., made his first address on Tuesday to employees of the Department of Health and Human Services. He said that a commission established by Trump to look into the rise of chronic disease in the United States would scrutinize the factors he has cited in the past: the childhood vaccine schedule, electromagnetic radiation, pesticides, ultra-processed foods, artificial food allergens, psychiatric drugs and microplastics. “Nothing is going to be off limits,” Kennedy said. The Times obtained access to the address via a video link.
People are going to die because this brain damaged imbecile has been put in a position of power.
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The report itself reads quite well. But when you know who's behind it, it becomes more concerning.

It opens up pointing out that the life expectancy is far worse than comparable countries, it doesn't go on to mention perhaps copying them...
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Raggs wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:42 pm The report itself reads quite well. But when you know who's behind it, it becomes more concerning.

It opens up pointing out that the life expectancy is far worse than comparable countries, it doesn't go on to mention perhaps copying them...
Yep, like the obesity epidemic from their eating/living habits. But no, they'll kill off childhood vaccinations instead.
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sefton wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:33 pm
President Trump’s newly installed health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., made his first address on Tuesday to employees of the Department of Health and Human Services. He said that a commission established by Trump to look into the rise of chronic disease in the United States would scrutinize the factors he has cited in the past: the childhood vaccine schedule, electromagnetic radiation, pesticides, ultra-processed foods, artificial food allergens, psychiatric drugs and microplastics. “Nothing is going to be off limits,” Kennedy said. The Times obtained access to the address via a video link.
People are going to die because this brain damaged imbecile has been put in a position of power.
You don't think a man who eats roadkill, has a brain worm and is clearly on excessive hormone treatments (if not steroids) is qualified to oversea a nation's health policy?
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:48 pm
Raggs wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:42 pm The report itself reads quite well. But when you know who's behind it, it becomes more concerning.

It opens up pointing out that the life expectancy is far worse than comparable countries, it doesn't go on to mention perhaps copying them...
Yep, like the obesity epidemic from their eating/living habits. But no, they'll kill off childhood vaccinations instead.
The disparity in life expectancy is five years at birth. But for a forty year old, it’s broadly the same as comparable countries.

The difference is down to three things - opiates, motor accidents and gun deaths.

On average, of a class of 25 kindergarteners in the USA, one will be dead before they’re 40.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:48 pm
Raggs wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:42 pm The report itself reads quite well. But when you know who's behind it, it becomes more concerning.

It opens up pointing out that the life expectancy is far worse than comparable countries, it doesn't go on to mention perhaps copying them...
Yep, like the obesity epidemic from their eating/living habits. But no, they'll kill off childhood vaccinations instead.
We are currently on a Caribbean cruise. The lunchtime buffet is split into sections like Asian, Chinese, Italian, French etc. There is this incredible option of beautiful fresh, reasonably healthy food but all the fat yanks are queued up at the American section which has beef patties, hot dogs, fried chicken and fucking corn dogs. They just don't understand why the world ridicules them.
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Blackmac wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:45 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:48 pm
Raggs wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:42 pm The report itself reads quite well. But when you know who's behind it, it becomes more concerning.

It opens up pointing out that the life expectancy is far worse than comparable countries, it doesn't go on to mention perhaps copying them...
Yep, like the obesity epidemic from their eating/living habits. But no, they'll kill off childhood vaccinations instead.
We are currently on a Caribbean cruise. The lunchtime buffet is split into sections like Asian, Chinese, Italian, French etc. There is this incredible option of beautiful fresh, reasonably healthy food but all the fat yanks are queued up at the American section which has beef patties, hot dogs, fried chicken and fucking corn dogs. They just don't understand why the world ridicules them.
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Ukraine started it!..

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Yeeb wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:49 pm
SaintK wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:46 am
Yeeb wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:16 am
Well there is an element of ‘they voted for it so lolz’ plus farmers may benefit if their produce goes up in price because tariffs whacked on imports.

Also, it will hopefully encourage a different type of response from the other political parties and offer something viable and successful . Around the world if you think the leaders are shit, you have to wonder at the quality of opposition.
Excellent article in the Weekend FT how tariffs are already causing issues in the supply chain and are projected to increase unemployment as Mom and Pa and SME businesses lay people off or go bust and welfare support and medical aid are slashed
Buyers remorse already started in some of the "red" states and we're only a month or so in.
Still as long as the cunt Musk and Trump cronies and funders are getting richer by the week then all is good!
It is strange he’s gone after tariffs so much when subsidies are clearly so much more effective (just look at China with EV’s, solar panels, consumer tech…).

Imposing tariffs up to the level that someone else currently charges for their shit, is fair enough though. Uk has broadly escaped for now thank god.
Trump absolutely embodies a pro trade capitalist who is actualy extremely protectionist and market distorter
.I don't think Western politicians are good at picking winners. And it would be another Govt / Treasury expense (unlike tariffs) when Western Govt's are already spending far too much.
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TB63 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:34 pm Ukraine started it!..

The MIC endorses this post.

(The disgraceful arsehole is someone who wants to stop the killing. Not those who kept it going.)
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Warren Buffet is selling off share stock, including a chunk of Apple shares.

Buckle up folks. That Delta airlines landing in Toronto was a dress rehearsal.
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Haven't seen you on the Wordle thread for a while, Comrade Smiley..?
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I needed a break. I still do it but without a nagging feeling of obligation
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:41 am Warren Buffet is selling off share stock, including a chunk of Apple shares.

Buckle up folks. That Delta airlines landing in Toronto was a dress rehearsal.
Could just be succession planning as he’s been doing that for a while now and he is about 97
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Margaret Atwood (Canadian) a real modern day Cassandra

Missouri state Rep. Phil Amato (R) has introduced a bill that would require the state to maintain a database to track pregnant women who are at "risk" of having an abortion, but not only maintain a database for those 'at risk' of having an abortion - but to share that list with people looking to adopt

10 11 shall: 12 3. In furtherance of the Missouri adoptive resources services system, the division (1) Maintain a central registry of each expectant mother who is at risk for 13 seeking an abortion of her unborn child and make the same available to a prospective 14 adoptive parent who has completed screenings as provided in subdivision (2) of this 15 subsection;

https://house.mo.gov/Bill.aspx?bill=HB8 ... 025&code=R
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Dogbert wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:11 am Margaret Atwood (Canadian) a real modern day Cassandra

Missouri state Rep. Phil Amato (R) has introduced a bill that would require the state to maintain a database to track pregnant women who are at "risk" of having an abortion, but not only maintain a database for those 'at risk' of having an abortion - but to share that list with people looking to adopt

10 11 shall: 12 3. In furtherance of the Missouri adoptive resources services system, the division (1) Maintain a central registry of each expectant mother who is at risk for 13 seeking an abortion of her unborn child and make the same available to a prospective 14 adoptive parent who has completed screenings as provided in subdivision (2) of this 15 subsection;

https://house.mo.gov/Bill.aspx?bill=HB8 ... 025&code=R
The weirdness just never ends.

I adopted kids, and I can assure you the birth parent did not willingly enter into the arrangement - very few do. They're not surrogates, they're people who had kids but could in no way, shape or form ever care for them, and who ultimately accept (grudgingly, and usually by court order) the kids are at risk of harm if they're not moved elsewhere.

It's not transactional - 'I don't want this baby, so I'll birth it and hand over the keys to someone else'.

It just ignores human nature, which sadly seems increasingly par for the course with these representatives.
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TB63 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:34 pm Ukraine started it!..

There just doesn’t seem to be any low benchmark for his idiocy and cuntishness, just keeps on going
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I'd love to know what his Generals, Admirals and Air Marshalls are thinking. Although, to be frank, they probably thought all Presidents were idiots who were to be tolerated but kept at arm's length.

It must make Staff Officer work quite tricky, not actually knowing who the perceived threat should be. Is Russia their adversary or not? Is Ukraine their regional ally or not?
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Tbf all these politics threads could be merged as it’s the same posts and links often
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