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Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:36 am Tbf all these politics threads could be merged as it’s the same posts and links often

dpedin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 am So Trump and Putin meet up with Saudis to decide how they carve up Ukraine and Eastern Europe tomorrow. Putin will be given solution that lets him save face for his disastrous 'special operation' whilst Trump will be given his victory in Europe. More worryingly will be they will agree that Ukraine has to hold elections for the peace plan to work which means they will manipulate the election in order to instal a puppet in place of Zelensky. The Puppet will then concede more ground to Russia whilst signing off the agreement to let the US have free access to the rare minerals etc they want. There will also be agreement about Putins longer term acquisitions in Eastern Europe and Trump will agree the US will stand aside when he moves in return for Russia stopping all its relationships with China who Trump sees as the real and his personal enemy. It will be a feckin disaster for everyone including the US but Trump and team are too feckin dumb to see otherwise.

Meanwhile back in the good old USofA the rise of the racist & facist state continues apace as they asset strip the state, transfer vast swathes of federal wealth to big business, cut taxes for the rich, destroy what little regulatory protections the public had, destroy the independence of the judiciary, use DEI excuse to reintroduce segregation, ban women from having any control over their own reproductive systems, destroy public healthcare and make general healthcare a hugely expensive service only the rich can afford. Herr Furher Trump via his henchmen like Herman Elon Goering and Stephen Goebells Miller continue to implement their Project 2025 and it will end up with Trump getting his wish to be the biggest and most powerful Dictator the world has ever seen!

We are in a real shithole and it's coming to us all sooner than we think!

Four women who allege they were sexually abused by the social media influencer Andrew Tate have urged the US not to interfere in his case in Romania.

The women said they were "extremely concerned" by reports that US officials had asked Romania to relax travel restrictions against Tate and his brother, Tristan Tate, who have dual UK-US nationality.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:04 am

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:36 am Tbf all these politics threads could be merged as it’s the same posts and links often

No it’s not

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:44 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:04 am

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:36 am Tbf all these politics threads could be merged as it’s the same posts and links often

No it’s not

Yes it is, several Trump links appear on multiple threads , latest one that Ukraine blame one

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:44 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:04 am
No it’s not

Yes it is, several Trump links appear on multiple threads , latest one that Ukraine blame one

Tough. They should remain separate threads

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:44 am

Yes it is, several Trump links appear on multiple threads , latest one that Ukraine blame one

Tough. They should remain separate threads

You really do argue the toss with anyone who disagrees with you , it’s amusing

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:44 am

Yes it is, several Trump links appear on multiple threads , latest one that Ukraine blame one

Tough. They should remain separate threads

You really do argue the toss with anyone who disagrees with you , it’s amusing

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:11 pm

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am
Tough. They should remain separate threads

You really do argue the toss with anyone who disagrees with you , it’s amusing

The Ukraine thread has been, and is, an amazingly informational thread on the war, mainly through Hellraiser and Flockwitt and a couple of others. Just because Trump is now interested shouldn't derail it.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:31 pm

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:07 am
Tough. They should remain separate threads

You really do argue the toss with anyone who disagrees with you , it’s amusing

No I don't...twat

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:38 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:31 pm

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:12 am
You really do argue the toss with anyone who disagrees with you , it’s amusing

No I don't...twat

You do Waldorf - u bellend

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:53 pm Apart from trading a few insults with the odd troll this is the first time I've argued with anyone on here since we migrated.
But as a blow-in after being perma-banned finally from the other place you probably wouldn't know that.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:57 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:53 pm Apart from trading a few insults with the odd troll this is the first time I've argued with anyone on here since we migrated.
But as a blow-in after being perma-banned finally from the other place you probably wouldn't know that.

Yeeb hasn't made the leap of understanding yet that this place isn't PR and shitfighting doesn't carry. It'll be interesting to see if he develops that awareness... but in the meantime, can we not indulge him every time he gets bored with his own reflection and tries to stir someone up?

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:57 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:53 pm Apart from trading a few insults with the odd troll this is the first time I've argued with anyone on here since we migrated.
But as a blow-in after being perma-banned finally from the other place you probably wouldn't know that.

Yeeb hasn't made the leap of understanding yet that this place isn't PR and shitfighting doesn't carry. It'll be interesting to see if he develops that awareness... but in the meantime, can we not indulge him every time he gets bored with his own reflection and tries to stir someone up?

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:01 pm

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:57 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:53 pm Apart from trading a few insults with the odd troll this is the first time I've argued with anyone on here since we migrated.
But as a blow-in after being perma-banned finally from the other place you probably wouldn't know that.

Yeeb hasn't made the leap of understanding yet that this place isn't PR and shitfighting doesn't carry. It'll be interesting to see if he develops that awareness... but in the meantime, can we not indulge him every time he gets bored with his own reflection and tries to stir someone up?

Bullshit this place is exactly PR, only slower.

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:13 pm Again, amusing at the assertion that somehow they are better and different on here.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:24 pm

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:13 pm Again, amusing at the assertion that somehow they are better and different on here.

That's your take on it. What I said was that this place isn't PR and that the shitfighting doesn't carry here. Because it's slower here, less posters active, the pattern of repetitive, petty point scoring over trivia that was the whole vibe of PR just looks fucking boring and self indulgent.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:24 pm

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:13 pm Again, amusing at the assertion that somehow they are better and different on here.

That's your take on it. What I said was that this place isn't PR and that the shitfighting doesn't carry here. Because it's slower here, less posters active, the pattern of repetitive, petty point scoring over trivia that was the whole vibe of PR just looks fucking boring and self indulgent.

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:01 pm

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:24 pm

Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:13 pm Again, amusing at the assertion that somehow they are better and different on here.

That's your take on it. What I said was that this place isn't PR and that the shitfighting doesn't carry here. Because it's slower here, less posters active, the pattern of repetitive, petty point scoring over trivia that was the whole vibe of PR just looks fucking boring and self indulgent.

Well, and we are better and different

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:38 pm One of the new executive orders declares Trump or his AG as the arbiters of what is legal.

Meanwhile this is literarlly carved into the SCOTUS walls.


Now that's yet another thing that is likely going to be challenged and end up in front of the SCOTUS. Are his appointees and the bought and paid for conservative judges like Clarence Thomas craven enough to surrender their institutional authority by overruling that case and in favour of the executive order?

inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:55 pm And now Trump has called Zelensky a dictator - because he hasn't held an election due in 2024 due to the fact there's martial law due to the great big fucking war going on.

Fuck my old boots, how have we come to this. It's just so obviously stupid.

Clearly Putin wants Trump to help get a puppet in there, Trump just cannot be this craven.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:21 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:55 pm And now Trump has called Zelensky a dictator - because he hasn't held an election due in 2024 due to the fact there's martial law due to the great big fucking war going on.

Fuck my old boots, how have we come to this. It's just so obviously stupid.

Clearly Putin wants Trump to help get a puppet in there, Trump just cannot be this craven.

If he had been a bit more subtle, he might have got a lot of this through but he's gone way over the top and galvanised Europe + Ukraine to keep going.

The BBC wrote: US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend, US media report.

The layoffs were a part of a cost-cutting mission across the US government by Trump and his Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) leader Elon Musk.

The terminations came as the latest outbreak of the bird flu has wreaked havoc on poultry and cattle farms, causing egg prices to skyrocket and raising concerns among public health experts.

A USDA spokesperson told the BBC that although "several" officials working on bird flu were "notified of their terminations" over the weekend, "we are working to swiftly rectify the situation and rescind those letters".

"USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service frontline positions are considered public safety positions, and we are continuing to hire the workforce necessary to ensure the safety and adequate supply of food to fulfil our statutory mission," the spokesperson added.

...

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:22 pm

The BBC wrote: US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend, US media report.

The layoffs were a part of a cost-cutting mission across the US government by Trump and his Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) leader Elon Musk.

The terminations came as the latest outbreak of the bird flu has wreaked havoc on poultry and cattle farms, causing egg prices to skyrocket and raising concerns among public health experts.

A USDA spokesperson told the BBC that although "several" officials working on bird flu were "notified of their terminations" over the weekend, "we are working to swiftly rectify the situation and rescind those letters".

"USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service frontline positions are considered public safety positions, and we are continuing to hire the workforce necessary to ensure the safety and adequate supply of food to fulfil our statutory mission," the spokesperson added.

...

It's just possible that in a few months time the revelation will break thru the thick skulls of the GOP, that possibly it's worse for this Administration to kill thousands of their constituents, than for Space Karen to claim victory in slashing spending.

inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:55 pm And now Trump has called Zelensky a dictator - because he hasn't held an election due in 2024 due to the fact there's martial law due to the great big fucking war going on.

Fuck my old boots, how have we come to this. It's just so obviously stupid.

Clearly Putin wants Trump to help get a puppet in there, Trump just cannot be this craven.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:45 pm We're all aware that if H5N1 breaks the species barrier and we have hospitals overflowing with the dying in the USA in six months time, that's going to be called a bio weapon attack by China, right? And be used as an excuse to strike back?

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:22 pm

The BBC wrote: US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend, US media report.

The layoffs were a part of a cost-cutting mission across the US government by Trump and his Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) leader Elon Musk.

The terminations came as the latest outbreak of the bird flu has wreaked havoc on poultry and cattle farms, causing egg prices to skyrocket and raising concerns among public health experts.

A USDA spokesperson told the BBC that although "several" officials working on bird flu were "notified of their terminations" over the weekend, "we are working to swiftly rectify the situation and rescind those letters".

"USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service frontline positions are considered public safety positions, and we are continuing to hire the workforce necessary to ensure the safety and adequate supply of food to fulfil our statutory mission," the spokesperson added.

...

It's just possible that in a few months time the revelation will break thru the thick skulls of the GOP, that possibly it's worse for this Administration to kill thousands of their constituents, than for Space Karen to claim victory in slashing spending.

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:16 pm I’ve just left the recording of Debate Night (Scotlands Question Time)in Edinburgh, was quite surprised at the number of Trump fans, particularly younger ones

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:16 pm I’ve just left the recording of Debate Night (Scotlands Question Time)in Edinburgh, was quite surprised at the number of Trump fans, particularly younger ones

Niegs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:36 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:16 pm I’ve just left the recording of Debate Night (Scotlands Question Time)in Edinburgh, was quite surprised at the number of Trump fans, particularly younger ones

I can almost see the support for Trump 1.0 as a potential disrupter to politics run by 'elites'. But it's clear now he's both a grifter and even if they don't believe that, he's a big crybaby who complains about everything.

How do future gens break global echo chambers thay have been so damaging?

... maybe that asteroid will do us a favour?

inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:55 pm And now Trump has called Zelensky a dictator - because he hasn't held an election due in 2024 due to the fact there's martial law due to the great big fucking war going on.

Fuck my old boots, how have we come to this. It's just so obviously stupid.

Clearly Putin wants Trump to help get a puppet in there, Trump just cannot be this craven.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:33 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:16 pm I’ve just left the recording of Debate Night (Scotlands Question Time)in Edinburgh, was quite surprised at the number of Trump fans, particularly younger ones

Young men are only becoming bigger fans of strongman leadership in the west.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:33 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:16 pm I’ve just left the recording of Debate Night (Scotlands Question Time)in Edinburgh, was quite surprised at the number of Trump fans, particularly younger ones

Young men are only becoming bigger fans of strongman leadership in the west.