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... and a few mates, or deceased/incarcerated mates, in common!Dogbert wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:35 pmAt least they will have common interestsHal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:10 pm I understand that Trump's meeting with the King has been downgraded to lunch with Prince Andrew.
I must have had a mental 7 month long fever dream in '09 because I swear I was involved in a war at the request of the Yanks. Spunktrumpet!
Fair enough, it was a tough interview by the looks of it.
He's now saying he wasn't talking about the UK and France: "I don’t even mention the UK or France in the clip, both of whom have fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond" even though both countries have been the only ones talking about boots on the ground in Ukraine.
It's just the Kiwi's & Ozzies so !, because he certainly isn't talking about any of the Arabs, 'cause they have all the money now, so they are immune from criticism.tabascoboy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:25 pmHe's now saying he wasn't talking about the UK and France: "I don’t even mention the UK or France in the clip, both of whom have fought bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years, and beyond" even though both countries have been the only ones talking about boots on the ground in Ukraine.
This is going to be a trademark of these morons isn't it, veiled insults followed "oh I didn't mean you" when pulled up on it...
.....Mmmmm, perhaps the Canucks have discovered the spirit they had when they burned the WH down !
Lest we forget, a few things the Canadians did during WW1 ended up in the Geneva Convention.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:08 pm.....Mmmmm, perhaps the Canucks have discovered the spirit they had when they burned the WH down !
Turning off the power they generously supply to the US would be a good start, along with the 100% tariff on Space Karens cremation boxes.
I agree, most blend into the background a lot of the time. Vance actually shares top billing, more a co-star than supporting actor.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Trump has already said that Vance will not be his successor.Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:59 amI agree, most blend into the background a lot of the time. Vance actually shares top billing, more a co-star than supporting actor.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Yes, that would be my read, he will be the continuation MAGA candidate in 2028 and by that point in time I think they want him to be seen almost as the incumbent.
It is a complete revision of the role of the VP and actually somewhat interesting in that he clearly has a bigger voice and a more defined role in this admin than Harris was able to carve out in the last one. Maybe the MAGA political strategists have looked at that (and say, Gores inability to move out of Clintons shadow in 2000) and decided that this is the best way to make him electable in 2028.
The next President will be whoever Putin has decided will be the next President!Chilli2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 amTrump has already said that Vance will not be his successor.Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:59 amI agree, most blend into the background a lot of the time. Vance actually shares top billing, more a co-star than supporting actor.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Yes, that would be my read, he will be the continuation MAGA candidate in 2028 and by that point in time I think they want him to be seen almost as the incumbent.
It is a complete revision of the role of the VP and actually somewhat interesting in that he clearly has a bigger voice and a more defined role in this admin than Harris was able to carve out in the last one. Maybe the MAGA political strategists have looked at that (and say, Gores inability to move out of Clintons shadow in 2000) and decided that this is the best way to make him electable in 2028.
The only similarly vociferous VP I can think of is Spiro Agnew with the student protests against the Vietnam War and Kent State.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Trump won't get a say. He ran to stay out of prison, stroke his ego and keep funneling money into his pockets, he gives not a single fuck about governing beyond the opportunities presented to strut in front of a camera. Musk, Thiel. Bezos and the rest of the meddlesome oligarchs are the ones directing things now, Trump just signs the executive orders they draw up.Chilli2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 amTrump has already said that Vance will not be his successor.Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:59 amI agree, most blend into the background a lot of the time. Vance actually shares top billing, more a co-star than supporting actor.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Yes, that would be my read, he will be the continuation MAGA candidate in 2028 and by that point in time I think they want him to be seen almost as the incumbent.
It is a complete revision of the role of the VP and actually somewhat interesting in that he clearly has a bigger voice and a more defined role in this admin than Harris was able to carve out in the last one. Maybe the MAGA political strategists have looked at that (and say, Gores inability to move out of Clintons shadow in 2000) and decided that this is the best way to make him electable in 2028.
I think this is completely wrong to be honest. He didn't give a fuck in his first term but he has come into this one better organised and with a full agenda. He is directing it.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:10 amTrump won't get a say. He ran to stay out of prison, stroke his ego and keep funneling money into his pockets, he gives not a single fuck about governing beyond the opportunities presented to strut in front of a camera. Musk, Thiel. Bezos and the rest of the meddlesome oligarchs are the ones directing things now, Trump just signs the executive orders they draw up.Chilli2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 amTrump has already said that Vance will not be his successor.Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:59 am
I agree, most blend into the background a lot of the time. Vance actually shares top billing, more a co-star than supporting actor.
Yes, that would be my read, he will be the continuation MAGA candidate in 2028 and by that point in time I think they want him to be seen almost as the incumbent.
It is a complete revision of the role of the VP and actually somewhat interesting in that he clearly has a bigger voice and a more defined role in this admin than Harris was able to carve out in the last one. Maybe the MAGA political strategists have looked at that (and say, Gores inability to move out of Clintons shadow in 2000) and decided that this is the best way to make him electable in 2028.
There's a good chance Trump doesn't even make it to the end of his term, given how unhealthy he is it's a suprise he's made it this far.
Dick Cheney, surely? Bush actually deferred to him when Iraq was being debated with Blair.geordie_6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:05 amThe only similarly vociferous VP I can think of is Spiro Agnew with the student protests against the Vietnam War and Kent State.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Or being set up as the useful idiot, can be used as an escape goat if things go to shit too much and they want to protect the shitgibbonTichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
You've pooh-poohed the Project 2025 stuff before, but it's those people who created the agenda and brought it to the Whitehouse, it's all their ideas that are being put into place. There's been plenty of footage of Musk holding court in the Oval and during Cabinet meetings while Trump just sits there. even when the assumption would be that it's his time to speak.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:15 amI think this is completely wrong to be honest. He didn't give a fuck in his first term but he has come into this one better organised and with a full agenda. He is directing it.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:10 amTrump won't get a say. He ran to stay out of prison, stroke his ego and keep funneling money into his pockets, he gives not a single fuck about governing beyond the opportunities presented to strut in front of a camera. Musk, Thiel. Bezos and the rest of the meddlesome oligarchs are the ones directing things now, Trump just signs the executive orders they draw up.
There's a good chance Trump doesn't even make it to the end of his term, given how unhealthy he is it's a suprise he's made it this far.
They're making sure he's prominent in case Trump's mental decline accelerates or he suddenly pops it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Agree with this. I don’t see how you can look at the flurry of meaningful activity in this administration, compare it to the flapping and performative stuff of his last one and claim that this is a man who just wants to be saluted. He was clearly stung by what happened during his last term and by the attempts to prosecute him, and has understood far better how to get things done in government this time around.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:15 amI think this is completely wrong to be honest. He didn't give a fuck in his first term but he has come into this one better organised and with a full agenda. He is directing it.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:10 amTrump won't get a say. He ran to stay out of prison, stroke his ego and keep funneling money into his pockets, he gives not a single fuck about governing beyond the opportunities presented to strut in front of a camera. Musk, Thiel. Bezos and the rest of the meddlesome oligarchs are the ones directing things now, Trump just signs the executive orders they draw up.
There's a good chance Trump doesn't even make it to the end of his term, given how unhealthy he is it's a suprise he's made it this far.
The fact is that he didn’t say Britain or France in his original answer, and then when he saw that it was being alleged that he had, he came out and clarified that he wasn’t talking about Britain and France.
the party’s chief whip had told MPs “that views don’t necessarily need to be aired on Twitter”.
I think I'd gotten used to seeing him as the then defacto President, to the point of forgetting about himBrazil wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:18 amDick Cheney, surely? Bush actually deferred to him when Iraq was being debated with Blair.geordie_6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:05 amThe only similarly vociferous VP I can think of is Spiro Agnew with the student protests against the Vietnam War and Kent State.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:35 am I don't recall any US vice president being so vocal or so, err, ubiquitous. Most of the time a lot of people, including myself, have no idea who the VP is. They appear on the ticket but for years after the election it's "who the fox hat?"
He's being used as the Top Goon, it would seem. Is he being lined up for the next run already?
Astonishing that four judges would agree that it's legal to not pay for contracted work that has already been completed.geordie_6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:01 pm Supreme Court reject Trump's request to withhold payment from foreign aid groups. Coney Barrett and Roberts joined the liberal judges for a 5-4 decision.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-suprem ... 025-03-05/
But he's decided the way to get things done is to act illegally.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 2:57 pmAgree with this. I don’t see how you can look at the flurry of meaningful activity in this administration, compare it to the flapping and performative stuff of his last one and claim that this is a man who just wants to be saluted. He was clearly stung by what happened during his last term and by the attempts to prosecute him, and has understood far better how to get things done in government this time around.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:15 amI think this is completely wrong to be honest. He didn't give a fuck in his first term but he has come into this one better organised and with a full agenda. He is directing it.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:10 am
Trump won't get a say. He ran to stay out of prison, stroke his ego and keep funneling money into his pockets, he gives not a single fuck about governing beyond the opportunities presented to strut in front of a camera. Musk, Thiel. Bezos and the rest of the meddlesome oligarchs are the ones directing things now, Trump just signs the executive orders they draw up.
There's a good chance Trump doesn't even make it to the end of his term, given how unhealthy he is it's a suprise he's made it this far.
Vance is a significant factor in that as a younger smarter man with a legal background, but that is exactly why Trump appointed him when just about everyone told him it was a bad idea.
The Trump administration is preparing to overhaul a $42.5bn Biden-era program designed to connect tens of millions of rural Americans to reliable and affordable high-speed internet, in a move that is expected to benefit billionaire Elon Musk.
Howard Lutnick, the commerce department secretary who has oversight of the federal program, recently told senior officials inside the department that he wants to make significant changes to the federal program, sources with knowledge of the matter told the Guardian.
Instead of promoting an expensive buildout of fiber optic networks – as the Biden administration sought to do – Lutnick has said he wants states to choose the internet technology that would be low cost for taxpayers.
That, experts agree, would favor satellite companies such as Musk’s Starlink.
Do those satellites only have a short life? Is it really cheaper to run short lived space based tech than earth bound?SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:56 pm You'd never have guessed it!!!The Trump administration is preparing to overhaul a $42.5bn Biden-era program designed to connect tens of millions of rural Americans to reliable and affordable high-speed internet, in a move that is expected to benefit billionaire Elon Musk.
Howard Lutnick, the commerce department secretary who has oversight of the federal program, recently told senior officials inside the department that he wants to make significant changes to the federal program, sources with knowledge of the matter told the Guardian.
Instead of promoting an expensive buildout of fiber optic networks – as the Biden administration sought to do – Lutnick has said he wants states to choose the internet technology that would be low cost for taxpayers.
That, experts agree, would favor satellite companies such as Musk’s Starlink.
Yes they do, it's the nature of putting objects in LEO, they fall to earth sooner, & you have to put more of them up, because they aren't in geostationary orbits, that are further out; but because the fuckwit in charge thinks he's a gamer & so is obsessed with ping times, that's where they are.Niegs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:29 pmDo those satellites only have a short life? Is it really cheaper to run short lived space based tech than earth bound?SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:56 pm You'd never have guessed it!!!The Trump administration is preparing to overhaul a $42.5bn Biden-era program designed to connect tens of millions of rural Americans to reliable and affordable high-speed internet, in a move that is expected to benefit billionaire Elon Musk.
Howard Lutnick, the commerce department secretary who has oversight of the federal program, recently told senior officials inside the department that he wants to make significant changes to the federal program, sources with knowledge of the matter told the Guardian.
Instead of promoting an expensive buildout of fiber optic networks – as the Biden administration sought to do – Lutnick has said he wants states to choose the internet technology that would be low cost for taxpayers.
That, experts agree, would favor satellite companies such as Musk’s Starlink.
The capital outlay on satellites is over $60billion. The have a life of about eight years. After that they need replaced to keep the network complete.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:08 pmYes they do, it's the nature of putting objects in LEO, they fall to earth sooner, & you have to put more of them up, because they aren't in geostationary orbits, that are further out; but because the fuckwit in charge thinks he's a gamer & so is obsessed with ping times, that's where they are.
So no they aren't cheaper, & as a result every starlink unit that sold is sold at a loss, & there's zero chance of the system ever washing it's face.
