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Geez how good was that. Test cricket at its finest. Very hard to pick a MOTM. Thakur 7 wickets for the match and his first innings 67. Siraj with his first ever 5-fa. Sundar with 4 wickets on debut, a crucial first innings 60, and 22 in the second innings to get them close. Gill's 91 to even give them a chance of winning. Pujaras 200 balls to tire the bowlers and ensure they couldn't lose. And obviously Pant getting them home.
Probably give it to Pant but a true team effort.
To do that at a venue Australia haven't lost at in 30 years, after being bowled out for 36 in the first test, missing your entire first choice bowling attack and your best batsman is really remarkable.
Couldn't happen to a nicer team, either.
Probably give it to Pant but a true team effort.
To do that at a venue Australia haven't lost at in 30 years, after being bowled out for 36 in the first test, missing your entire first choice bowling attack and your best batsman is really remarkable.
Couldn't happen to a nicer team, either.
All of this. How many of the team were playing the first or second test?mrbrownstone wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:45 am Geez how good was that. Test cricket at its finest. Very hard to pick a MOTM. Thakur 7 wickets for the match and his first innings 67. Siraj with his first ever 5-fa. Sundar with 4 wickets on debut, a crucial first innings 60, and 22 in the second innings to get them close. Gill's 91 to even give them a chance of winning. Pujaras 200 balls to tire the bowlers and ensure they couldn't lose. And obviously Pant getting them home.
Probably give it to Pant but a true team effort.
To do that at a venue Australia haven't lost at in 30 years, after being bowled out for 36 in the first test, missing your entire first choice bowling attack and your best batsman is really remarkable.
Couldn't happen to a nicer team, either.
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The good news for NZ is twofold.
That result means we stay atop the test rankings. It also makes the WTC equation clearer.
For Australia to qualify they need to win at least 2-0 in South Africa. 2-1 wouldn't be enough. If they lose a game then fate is out of their hands and would require India shitting the bed against England. The funniest result would be if that tour is cancelled - currently they're on 69.12% to NZ's 70% so would just miss out.
For India to qualify they need 2 wins and 1 draw. So any result 2-1 or better against England guarantees their place.
For England to qualify they need to win their next test vs SL and then win 3-0 or better in India. Unlikely but technically possible.
From an NZ perspective, go the Proteas!!!
That result means we stay atop the test rankings. It also makes the WTC equation clearer.
For Australia to qualify they need to win at least 2-0 in South Africa. 2-1 wouldn't be enough. If they lose a game then fate is out of their hands and would require India shitting the bed against England. The funniest result would be if that tour is cancelled - currently they're on 69.12% to NZ's 70% so would just miss out.
For India to qualify they need 2 wins and 1 draw. So any result 2-1 or better against England guarantees their place.
For England to qualify they need to win their next test vs SL and then win 3-0 or better in India. Unlikely but technically possible.
From an NZ perspective, go the Proteas!!!
From RahaneKiwias wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:50 amAll of this. How many of the team were playing the first or second test?mrbrownstone wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:45 am Geez how good was that. Test cricket at its finest. Very hard to pick a MOTM. Thakur 7 wickets for the match and his first innings 67. Siraj with his first ever 5-fa. Sundar with 4 wickets on debut, a crucial first innings 60, and 22 in the second innings to get them close. Gill's 91 to even give them a chance of winning. Pujaras 200 balls to tire the bowlers and ensure they couldn't lose. And obviously Pant getting them home.
Probably give it to Pant but a true team effort.
To do that at a venue Australia haven't lost at in 30 years, after being bowled out for 36 in the first test, missing your entire first choice bowling attack and your best batsman is really remarkable.
Couldn't happen to a nicer team, either.
Siraj had played two Test matches, Saini one, Thakur one, Natarajan on debut
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Green light echo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:19 am We will be ok mate. Probably still win the Test Championship.......
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The number of youngsters who rose to the challenge for India is incredible. Australia couldn't keep up.Kiwias wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:08 amFrom RahaneKiwias wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:50 amAll of this. How many of the team were playing the first or second test?mrbrownstone wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:45 am Geez how good was that. Test cricket at its finest. Very hard to pick a MOTM. Thakur 7 wickets for the match and his first innings 67. Siraj with his first ever 5-fa. Sundar with 4 wickets on debut, a crucial first innings 60, and 22 in the second innings to get them close. Gill's 91 to even give them a chance of winning. Pujaras 200 balls to tire the bowlers and ensure they couldn't lose. And obviously Pant getting them home.
Probably give it to Pant but a true team effort.
To do that at a venue Australia haven't lost at in 30 years, after being bowled out for 36 in the first test, missing your entire first choice bowling attack and your best batsman is really remarkable.
Couldn't happen to a nicer team, either.Siraj had played two Test matches, Saini one, Thakur one, Natarajan on debut
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Steve Smith could probably walk out wearing a baggy green cap made of the skin of the last of an endangered species and I’d still support them over India.
I'm still on the fence.ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:42 amSteve Smith could probably walk out wearing a baggy green cap made of the skin of the last of an endangered species and I’d still support them over India.
I'm normally inclined to agree.
However, the general crowing and hubris before the match and the lack of sportsmanship shown during the game made it difficult to support them.
Edit: not that the Indians are completely innocent of using excessive gamesmanship, I hasten to add...
However, the general crowing and hubris before the match and the lack of sportsmanship shown during the game made it difficult to support them.
Edit: not that the Indians are completely innocent of using excessive gamesmanship, I hasten to add...
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Indians are a bunch of entitled cnuts
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Look at the score board.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:54 amIndians are a bunch of entitled cnuts
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There was not enough space for Labuschagne?Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:26 amWhat the hell is Greene doing there? He is not bowling any long spells and is dead average with the bat
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I hope Rabada and Nortje have some sweet chin music for the Aussies later this summer.mrbrownstone wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:41 am https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... c8a3c23a47
Classy til the end.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
beemur....Gumboot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:26 am I don't understand why Australia batted on after the rain/dinner break rather than declaring. Now the total's far too big for India to consider chasing down, and they won't have to bat for as long to get the draw than they would've. Then there's the weather. I guess the Aussies are just being as supremely confident as only they can be, though. Confidence, or hubris?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
There's a saying which you could have a keyboard shortcut for.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Truly fantastic win for India. Up there with the Laxman-led victory after following on against Waugh's Australia in 2001 (at home, but against probably the 1st= greatest side in the history of cricket who were on a run of 16 straight wins), including for the captaincy to go for the win rather than settle for a draw. Great stuff, no matter what one thinks of the sides involved (India do not normally get too many positive character references here).
And as a series, that has to be one of the all-time goodies. Humiliating collapse and defeat, followed by avenging wins and backs-against-the-wall displays for a draw and historic run-chase at the enemy fortress, all while dealing with injuries legion and a change in leadership.
Some selection headaches coming up for India - how do you drop heroes? Most of all for the captaincy: is it a coincidence that India have responded so resolutely with Rahane in charge rather than Kohli? Several pundits had been pushing for the change anyway as Rahane's teams in the IPL made more of themselves than Kohli's. Kohli could still be the Bollywood superstar without being skipper; Tendulkar managed it, but the success of Dhoni being superman has perhaps tempted India into seeking a similar style of skipper when maybe they would be better suited otherwise.
And as a series, that has to be one of the all-time goodies. Humiliating collapse and defeat, followed by avenging wins and backs-against-the-wall displays for a draw and historic run-chase at the enemy fortress, all while dealing with injuries legion and a change in leadership.
Some selection headaches coming up for India - how do you drop heroes? Most of all for the captaincy: is it a coincidence that India have responded so resolutely with Rahane in charge rather than Kohli? Several pundits had been pushing for the change anyway as Rahane's teams in the IPL made more of themselves than Kohli's. Kohli could still be the Bollywood superstar without being skipper; Tendulkar managed it, but the success of Dhoni being superman has perhaps tempted India into seeking a similar style of skipper when maybe they would be better suited otherwise.
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Truly outstanding effort by India. That they did so well with what in the end was basically a B team really puts NZ's effort in Oz a year ago into perspective — it was actually even more dismal than I thought at the time!
It also puts out 2 ~ 0 series win against India last February in a different perspective, back when they had all their top players.Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:07 am Truly outstanding effort by India. That they did so well with what in the end was basically a B team really puts NZ's effort in Oz a year ago into perspective — it was actually even more dismal than I thought at the time!
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Well said. We beat India, India beat Aus, Aus beat us. Very little between the top 3 on the moment, with conditions, injuries, and preparation having a huge impact.Kiwias wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:12 amIt also puts out 2 ~ 0 series win against India last February in a different perspective, back when they had all their top players.Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:07 am Truly outstanding effort by India. That they did so well with what in the end was basically a B team really puts NZ's effort in Oz a year ago into perspective — it was actually even more dismal than I thought at the time!
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Er, mixing up apples and oranges... Both the NZ-Oz and India-Oz series were in Oz; NZ-India wasn't.Kiwias wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:12 amIt also puts out 2 ~ 0 series win against India last February in a different perspective, back when they had all their top players.Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:07 am Truly outstanding effort by India. That they did so well with what in the end was basically a B team really puts NZ's effort in Oz a year ago into perspective — it was actually even more dismal than I thought at the time!
Next up for NZ Fans is a return to the short format, now the interesting thing is and I'm not sure it has happened before but there will be 2 Australian teams playing at the same time (Covid Willing) as the Aus test team will be in South Africa and they are sending effectively a B team to New Zealand. Players like Darcy Short, Riley Meredith, Adam Zampa, Ben McDermott etc will be fresh from the BBL and ready to go. In my opinion some of these players could cause an upset or three, Australia has some quality T20 talent even with the top guys out.
Mon Feb 22 - 19:00 local | 06:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 1st T20
Hagley Oval, Christchurch
Thu Feb 25 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 2nd T20
D/N University Oval, Dunedin
Wed Mar 3 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 3rd T20
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
Fri Mar 5 - 19:00 local | 06:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 4th T20
D/N Eden Park, Auckland
Sun Mar 7 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 5th T20
D/N Bay Oval, Mt Maunganui
Nice to see the Hagley Oval game already sold out and the Dunedin game has a handful of tickets left
Mon Feb 22 - 19:00 local | 06:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 1st T20
Hagley Oval, Christchurch
Thu Feb 25 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 2nd T20
D/N University Oval, Dunedin
Wed Mar 3 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 3rd T20
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
Fri Mar 5 - 19:00 local | 06:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 4th T20
D/N Eden Park, Auckland
Sun Mar 7 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 5th T20
D/N Bay Oval, Mt Maunganui
Nice to see the Hagley Oval game already sold out and the Dunedin game has a handful of tickets left
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Yeah it's a strange scenario with two teams playing at once. Tbh I'm not sure how much it hampers them anyway - a fair chunk of the test side (Puckovski, Labuschane, Green, Paine, Lyon) don't feature In their T20 team anyway. Can still put out a good BBL XI:JPNZ wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:45 pm Next up for NZ Fans is a return to the short format, now the interesting thing is and I'm not sure it has happened before but there will be 2 Australian teams playing at the same time (Covid Willing) as the Aus test team will be in South Africa and they are sending effectively a B team to New Zealand. Players like Darcy Short, Riley Meredith, Adam Zampa, Ben McDermott etc will be fresh from the BBL and ready to go. In my opinion some of these players could cause an upset or three, Australia has some quality T20 talent even with the top guys out.
Mon Feb 22 - 19:00 local | 06:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 1st T20
Hagley Oval, Christchurch
Thu Feb 25 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 2nd T20
D/N University Oval, Dunedin
Wed Mar 3 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 3rd T20
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
Fri Mar 5 - 19:00 local | 06:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 4th T20
D/N Eden Park, Auckland
Sun Mar 7 - 14:00 local | 01:00 GMT
New Zealand vs Australia, 5th T20
D/N Bay Oval, Mt Maunganui
Nice to see the Hagley Oval game already sold out and the Dunedin game has a handful of tickets left
1. Finch (c)
2. Phillipe
3. McDermott
4. Lynn
5. Maxwell
6. Stoinis
7. Sams/Carey/M.Marsh/Christian/Agar/Cutting - depends on team balance
8. J. Richardson
9. Meredith
10. Zampa
11. K. Richardson
Depends on test selection I guess, but something along those lines I imagine.
In both the India-Aus and India-BC series, India was playing away from home, on pitches prepared for the home team.Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:40 pmEr, mixing up apples and oranges... Both the NZ-Oz and India-Oz series were in Oz; NZ-India wasn't.Kiwias wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:12 amIt also puts out 2 ~ 0 series win against India last February in a different perspective, back when they had all their top players.Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:07 am Truly outstanding effort by India. That they did so well with what in the end was basically a B team really puts NZ's effort in Oz a year ago into perspective — it was actually even more dismal than I thought at the time!
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Afghanistan set a very competitive 287/9 after and excellent start, mini collapse and back end recovery v Ireland.
Ireland in a bit of bother at 98/4 after ~20 overs and Rashid Khan just starting his first over.
Ireland in a bit of bother at 98/4 after ~20 overs and Rashid Khan just starting his first over.
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
Blimey, Khan hit 5 sixes in his 55* off 30 balls. Good turnaround.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:03 pm Afghanistan set a very competitive 287/9 after and excellent start, mini collapse and back end recovery v Ireland.
Ireland in a bit of bother at 98/4 after ~20 overs and Rashid Khan just starting his first over.