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I am starting to think the Leinster 1st XV do not play enough rugby in a season, so even though they are more rested than any team they come up against, they lack the mental and physical toughness you get from playing games when it comes to these important games towards the end of the season. They are basically undercooked for the tough games. I saw some stats a while back (cannot remember where) that the Leinster players on average play far less games in a season compared to any of the other teams in the top leagues (excluding Japan)Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 8:27 amThe schedule is Kinder to them this year so they'll be able to go fully loaded for all the games, instead of trying to rotate.
This sort of nonsense gets trotted out all the time. Any time an Irish team wins its because they rest all their players. Any time an Irish team loses its because their players aren't battle hardened enough! It can't be both lads, and I'm quite certain it's neither!bok_viking wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:48 amI am starting to think the Leinster 1st XV do not play enough rugby in a season, so even though they are more rested than any team they come up against, they lack the mental and physical toughness you get from playing games when it comes to these important games towards the end of the season. They are basically undercooked for the tough games. I saw some stats a while back (cannot remember where) that the Leinster players on average play far less games in a season compared to any of the other teams in the top leagues (excluding Japan)Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 8:27 amThe schedule is Kinder to them this year so they'll be able to go fully loaded for all the games, instead of trying to rotate.
Somebody on the other bored said that Doris has played 32 games so far this year. I'm sure that's not breaking any records, but I'm also sure it doesn't count as "not playing enough rugby".
(Having said that, I've been calling out for Frawley to get more game time at 10, which he hasn't had, but that's more of a positional question rather than a "battle hardened" gametime one)
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Just figure out why Sards don't want the Sharks to win. He is bang the Stormers win the SA Shield again.
Don't worry Sards, we won it two years on the trot, nobody rate the shields.
What a fucking doos.
Don't worry Sards, we won it two years on the trot, nobody rate the shields.
What a fucking doos.
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There are a lot of X Stormers in the Sharks team. They,ll spoil Sards party.
I don't buy the argument either tbf.PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:36 pmThis sort of nonsense gets trotted out all the time. Any time an Irish team wins its because they rest all their players. Any time an Irish team loses its because their players aren't battle hardened enough! It can't be both lads, and I'm quite certain it's neither!bok_viking wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:48 amI am starting to think the Leinster 1st XV do not play enough rugby in a season, so even though they are more rested than any team they come up against, they lack the mental and physical toughness you get from playing games when it comes to these important games towards the end of the season. They are basically undercooked for the tough games. I saw some stats a while back (cannot remember where) that the Leinster players on average play far less games in a season compared to any of the other teams in the top leagues (excluding Japan)Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 8:27 am
The schedule is Kinder to them this year so they'll be able to go fully loaded for all the games, instead of trying to rotate.
Somebody on the other bored said that Doris has played 32 games so far this year. I'm sure that's not breaking any records, but I'm also sure it doesn't count as "not playing enough rugby".
(Having said that, I've been calling out for Frawley to get more game time at 10, which he hasn't had, but that's more of a positional question rather than a "battle hardened" gametime one)
My view is that rugby teams, and sport teams in general, are built on momentum. Chopping and changing players every week messes that up. Leinster were utter shite the week before against Ulster. Dreadful in fact. Dropping balls, missing tackles, making basic errors etc. This is off the back of a shite tour to SA. Not playing your best players is obviously a factor but seeing relatively senior guys like James Ryan and Harry Byrne playing like donkeys against an Ulster side that is down in the dumps, is piss poor. That stuff filters through to the wider squad at training on Monday morning.
My view is that Leinster are simply not as good as they were 3 or 4 years ago. Facing a teamsheet with the likes Furlong, Porter, VDF, Doris, Henshaw and Keenan isn't the same death sentance as it once was, for opponents. Plus, Leinster lack a box office player that can pull a rabbit out of the hat with a moment of individual brilliance, like a Dupont, Kolbe, Finn Russell etc.
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Targeting this one for a live ticket:OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 9:04 am 2024/25 fixture list
https://www.unitedrugby.com/content-pag ... 5-fixtures
Sat, Mar 22 Scarlets v DHL Stormers Parc Y Scarlets
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I had it working the other day, but I could only see doom and despair from an Edinburgh perspective.
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message I get.
The spreadsheet is a master piece, when can we connect for zoom training on Xcell?
The Sprays aren't playing at the football ground next season. It'll be either Bridgends ground (The Brewery Field) or Swansea's (Sports Ground), visiting some old fashioned rugby grounds will be "interesting" for visiting fans and players alike.
Bollocks! Neither of those is convenient for a weekend without a car in Swansea Town Centre, especially Brig-fucking-end!
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I've uploaded a new version so that should hopefully work:OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 1:56 pm"This item might not exist or is no longer availabletopofthemoon wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 12:41 pmI've logged back into it and everything seems to be working again from my end. Try again and let me know if you still can't get in.
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The spreadsheet is a master piece, when can we connect for zoom training on Xcell?
https://1drv.ms/x/s!AvvixG1z7ESBywMbaix ... 6?e=vxd3tR
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There's a train surely?Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 7:24 pmBollocks! Neither of those is convenient for a weekend without a car in Swansea Town Centre, especially Brig-fucking-end!
There is a train to Bridgend. However I'm coming from England and will travel thru that Bridgend station on the way to Swansea where my hotel is 3 hours earlier! Then I have to catch a train 30 mins back to Bridgend. Then get the train back again (with several 1000 other people possibly) to have a pint in the evening. Not going to spend more time than I have to in Bridgend because it's a dumpUncle fester wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 6:30 amThere's a train surely?
Dropping £500+ to Edinburgh or Dublin games looking less like a hardship now.
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Stormers B vs Lions
DHL Stormers: 15 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, 14 Suleiman Hartzenberg, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Dan du Plessis, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Hacjivah Dayimani, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Evan Roos, 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Andre-Hugo Venter, 1 Sti Sithole.
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Adre Smith, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Stefan Ungerer, 22 Jean-Luc du Plessis, 23 Ben Loader.
DHL Stormers: 15 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, 14 Suleiman Hartzenberg, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Dan du Plessis, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Hacjivah Dayimani, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Evan Roos, 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Andre-Hugo Venter, 1 Sti Sithole.
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Adre Smith, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Stefan Ungerer, 22 Jean-Luc du Plessis, 23 Ben Loader.
Finally they get the starting order right!!!
Bastards. Don't know many of these lads. Are the Stormers throwing this one then? Not good news for Ulster FFS as we'll likely get tanked in Limerick.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:34 am Stormers B vs Lions
DHL Stormers: 15 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, 14 Suleiman Hartzenberg, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Dan du Plessis, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Hacjivah Dayimani, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Evan Roos, 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Andre-Hugo Venter, 1 Sti Sithole.
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Adre Smith, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Stefan Ungerer, 22 Jean-Luc du Plessis, 23 Ben Loader.
Ian Madigan for Ireland.
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Nah not really, Gelant is out with a light strain. Otherwise is the best available team.Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:49 amBastards. Don't know many of these lads. Are the Stormers throwing this one then? Not good news for Ulster FFS as we'll likely get tanked in Limerick.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:34 am Stormers B vs Lions
DHL Stormers: 15 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, 14 Suleiman Hartzenberg, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Dan du Plessis, 11 Angelo Davids, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Hacjivah Dayimani, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Evan Roos, 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Andre-Hugo Venter, 1 Sti Sithole.
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Adre Smith, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Stefan Ungerer, 22 Jean-Luc du Plessis, 23 Ben Loader.
Lions – 15 Quan Horn, 14 Rabz Maxwane, 13 Erich Cronje, 12 Jordan Hendrikse, 11 Edwill van der Merwe, 10 Sanele Nohamba, 9 Morne van den Berg, 8 Francke Horn, 7 Emmanuel Tshituka, 6 JC Pretorius, 5 Ruan Delport, 4 Willem Alberts (c), 3 Asenathi Ntlabakanye, 2 PJ Botha, 1 Morgan Naude.
Subs: 16 Jaco Visagie, 17 JP Smith, 18 Ruan Dreyer, 19 Etienne Oosthuizen, 20 Reinhardt Nothnagel, 21 Izan Esterhuizen, 22 Marius Louw, 23 Gianni Lombard.
Date: Saturday, June 1
Venue: Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town
Kick-off: 13.45 (11.45 GMT)
Referee: Marius van der Westhuizen (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Griffin Colby (South Africa) and Hanru van Rooyen (South Africa)
TMO: Christi du Preez (South Africa)
Ref = Sards in 3.2.1.
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Sharks: 15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Werner Kok, 13 Ethan Hooker, 12 Francois Venter (Captain), 11 Eduan Keyter, 10 Siya Masuku, 9 Cameron Wright, 8 Phepsi Buthelezi, 7 Vincent Tshituka, 6 James Venter, 5 Gerbrandt Grobler, 4 Corne Rahl, 3 Vincent Koch, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Ox Nche
Replacements: 16 Fez Mbatha, 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 18 Khwezi Mona, 19 Jeandre Labuschagne, 20 Dylan Richardson, 21 Bradley Davids, 22 Boeta Chamberlain, 23 Diego Appollis.
Bulls: 15 Willie Le Roux, 14 Canan Moodie, 13 David Kriel, 12 Harold Voster, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Embrose Papier, 8 Cameron Hanekom, 7 Elrigh Louw, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje (captain), 4 Ruan Vermaak, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Simphiwe Matanzima, 18 Francois Klopper, 19 Reinhardt Ludwig, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Keagan Johannes, 22 Chris Smith, 23 Sebastian de Klerk.
Date: Saturday, June 1
Venue: Kings Park, Durban
Kick-off: 16.00 (14.00 GMT)
Referee: Morne Ferreira (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadzweni (South Africa) and Dylen November (South Africa)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
Bulls by 50
Replacements: 16 Fez Mbatha, 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 18 Khwezi Mona, 19 Jeandre Labuschagne, 20 Dylan Richardson, 21 Bradley Davids, 22 Boeta Chamberlain, 23 Diego Appollis.
Bulls: 15 Willie Le Roux, 14 Canan Moodie, 13 David Kriel, 12 Harold Voster, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Embrose Papier, 8 Cameron Hanekom, 7 Elrigh Louw, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje (captain), 4 Ruan Vermaak, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Simphiwe Matanzima, 18 Francois Klopper, 19 Reinhardt Ludwig, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Keagan Johannes, 22 Chris Smith, 23 Sebastian de Klerk.
Date: Saturday, June 1
Venue: Kings Park, Durban
Kick-off: 16.00 (14.00 GMT)
Referee: Morne Ferreira (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadzweni (South Africa) and Dylen November (South Africa)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
Bulls by 50
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Saffers love to spoil in derbies. They will try and knock the kak out of each other.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 1:22 pmNah not really, Gelant is out with a light strain. Otherwise is the best available team.
Its only cockroach supporters like Sards that want his team to throw the result or blame the ref when the Stormers win.
Truth hurts.
Or it's the most the most ridiculous coincidence.
I called long ago that everything depended on whether Marius got the whistle or not.
Because let's be honest. He hasn't been doing much reffing in the URC. But.....here's Marius.
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Not a huge amount of jeopardy left in the URC's Shields these days but there is a still trophy, bragging rights plus a bit of charity promotion for each winner - and all based only on head to results.
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What's wrong with Glasgow?
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They’ve gone to absolute shit haven’t they. They pride themselves on their fitness both in-game and late-season but they look leggy and tired out there and their skills are falling apart because of it.
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Oh well they got the 5 points in the end.
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Pressure mounting on the Bulls.
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So staying in Bridgend is completely and absolutely out of the question then?Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:25 amThere is a train to Bridgend. However I'm coming from England and will travel thru that Bridgend station on the way to Swansea where my hotel is 3 hours earlier! Then I have to catch a train 30 mins back to Bridgend. Then get the train back again (with several 1000 other people possibly) to have a pint in the evening. Not going to spend more time than I have to in Bridgend because it's a dump
Dropping £500+ to Edinburgh or Dublin games looking less like a hardship now.