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Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
by TB63
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:08 am
by Sandstorm
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Google review allows for both options.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:11 am
by Kiwias
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
I don't know about recommending her but I certainly would not go back.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:11 am
by Sandstorm
Your barber is French?
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 am
by Raggs
I'd not go back and would recommend against.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:28 am
by Lobby
Raggs wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 am
I'd not go back and would recommend against.
Ditto.
Mind you, some idiots seem proud to advertise their own stupidity

Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:30 am
by Lemoentjie
'Viral Shedding'?

Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
by Jock42
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
I think she's a fuckwit but it wouldn't put me off going.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
by handyman
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:37 am
by TB63
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
Self employed. . No problems there..
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:50 am
by handyman
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:37 am
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
Self employed. . No problems there..
Cool. It was more of a question in general to gauge opinions.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 am
by Sandstorm
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
I’d call them out on it and announce that I’d rather work from home. I’d bring HR in too.
Fuckwittery should be challenged everywhere.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:56 am
by Sandstorm
Although I don’t know how much good it’ll do. My boss is a small business owner who trades mostly in EU and he voted for Brexit.

Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:11 am
by Tichtheid
"Anti vax" is too benign a term, in my view.
Anti science is more accurate.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:17 am
by Raggs
Tichtheid wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:11 am
"Anti vax" is too benign a term, in my view.
Anti science is more accurate.
Pro-Plague.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:47 am
by sockwithaticket
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 am
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
I’d call them out on it and announce that I’d rather work from home. I’d bring HR in too.
Fuckwittery should be challenged everywhere.
This. And if it turned out the anti-vax sentiment ran deeper than just my boss, I'd start looking for a new job. I could go a few months without one if need be.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:01 am
by Jock42
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
I rip the pish out of them and their professional opinion. I'm not worried about being in close contact with them.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:18 am
by SaintK
Raggs wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 am
I'd not go back and would recommend against.
This...................very much so!
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:47 am
by Ovals
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:18 am
Raggs wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 am
I'd not go back and would recommend against.
This...................very much so!
Yep - plenty of other Hairdressers out there - and we've survived without any of them for most of the last year.
I run a Guitar Club, which has been dormant for the last year. I'm just about to get it going again, starting off with some outdoor sessions. Seriously considering making it vaxxed members only when we return to an indoor setting - Assuming everyone has had the option for a vax by then.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:14 am
by Saint
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
I would point blank refuse to be in the same office, especially given Mrs Saint being a district nurse meaning I am potentially a direct conduit to a lot of at risk groups. If anyone wanted to call me out on it I'd get HR involved very quickly
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:27 am
by Torquemada 1420
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Presumably any customers at risk will have had the vaccination?
Methinks probably many more important things to begin worrying about boycott campaigns over.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 am
by TB63
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:27 am
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Presumably any customers at risk will have had the vaccination?
Methinks probably many more important things to begin worrying about boycott campaigns over.
No mention of a boycott campaign made.
I just wont recommend them. Nor will i allow my father to go there..
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:08 am
by Torquemada 1420
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:27 am
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Presumably any customers at risk will have had the vaccination?
Methinks probably many more important things to begin worrying about boycott campaigns over.
No mention of a boycott campaign made.
I just wont recommend them. Nor will i allow my father to go there..
That's the beauty of freedom of choice. Does she do child haircuts?
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:16 am
by TB63
Seeing as my grandson has been there..I'd say yes...
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:56 am
by Uncle fester
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Post a picture of her so we can properly consider the case.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:28 pm
by TB63
She's Welsh.
Are you a masochist?..
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:47 pm
by ASMO
I am not seeing the dilemma here, you are using her to cut your hair, not to advise you on vaccination, this is akin to not going to a barber/hairdresser because they are ginger, or catholic, or muslim.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:53 pm
by Insane_Homer
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:58 pm
by Raggs
ASMO wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:47 pm
I am not seeing the dilemma here, you are using her to cut your hair, not to advise you on vaccination, this is akin to not going to a barber/hairdresser because they are ginger, or catholic, or muslim.
I knew you could get infected by gingers!
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:50 pm
by Biffer
handyman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 am
How will you react when your boss or co-workers reveal that they are anti-vax? And to do your job properly means to be in close contact with them from time to time.
I work in a government science lab so I doubt we'll have many. If there are any they'll be laughed at for pretending to understand science for a living.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:03 pm
by Torquemada 1420
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:16 am
Seeing as my grandson has been there..I'd say yes...
My point being that children are not been vaccinated.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:45 pm
by notfatcat
Raggs wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:58 pm
ASMO wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:47 pm
I am not seeing the dilemma here, you are using her to cut your hair, not to advise you on vaccination, this is akin to not going to a barber/hairdresser because they are ginger, or catholic, or muslim.
I knew you could get infected by gingers!
Yep, you too may end up smelling of piss when it rains.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:48 pm
by Hal Jordan
Ovals wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:47 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:18 am
Raggs wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 am
I'd not go back and would recommend against.
This...................very much so!
Yep - plenty of other Hairdressers out there - and we've survived without any of them for most of the last year.
I run a Guitar Club, which has been dormant for the last year. I'm just about to get it going again, starting off with some outdoor sessions. Seriously considering making it vaxxed members only when we return to an indoor setting - Assuming everyone has had the option for a vax by then.
Anyone else now picturing Ovals throwing shapes and soloing like a GOD as a thunderstorm rages around him?
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:11 am
by Enzedder
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:56 am
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
Post a picture of her so we can properly consider the case.
Finally, a response that makes sense.
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:28 am
by Hong Kong
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
How much does she charge for a BJ and sides?
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:45 am
by stemoc
i don't blame ppl for not trusting the vaccines, the most used vaccine (astra-zeneca) around the world is only75% effective.. this is the problem, so many vaccine makers and none can guarantee you a 100% o r atleast 95% success..we were suppose to learn form the pandemic and yet somehow it became a game between countries on who can "sell" the most vaccines even if it may not be very effective..
astra-zeneca is being brought to fiji and i ain't taking it... fuck off..
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:08 am
by mat the expat
stemoc wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:45 am
i don't blame ppl for not trusting the vaccines, the most used vaccine (astra-zeneca)
around the world is only75% effective.. this is the problem, so many vaccine makers and none can guarantee you a 100% o r atleast 95% success..we were suppose to learn form the pandemic and yet somehow it became a game between countries on who can "sell" the most vaccines even if it may not be very effective..
astra-zeneca is being brought to fiji and i ain't taking it... fuck off..
It's still contributing to herd immunity you cretin
FFS - when kids were dying of Smallpox, would you have refused the vaccine?
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:10 am
by Sandstorm
mat the expat wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:08 am
stemoc wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:45 am
i don't blame ppl for not trusting the vaccines, the most used vaccine (astra-zeneca)
around the world is only75% effective.. this is the problem, so many vaccine makers and none can guarantee you a 100% o r atleast 95% success..we were suppose to learn form the pandemic and yet somehow it became a game between countries on who can "sell" the most vaccines even if it may not be very effective..
astra-zeneca is being brought to fiji and i ain't taking it... fuck off..
It's still contributing to herd immunity you cretin
FFS - when kids were dying of Smallpox, would you have refused the vaccine?
Ask a stupid person a question.....
Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:16 am
by mat the expat
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:10 am
Ask a stupid person a question.....
Sadly, there are plenty of people, including "Smart" people who are discussing picking and choosing which vaccine to get online.

Re: Moral dilemma. .
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:39 am
by TB63
Hong Kong wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:28 am
TB63 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 am
Would you support/visit a business where you knew the owner was anti vax?
Went for long overdue haircut yesterday and in conversation the barber said she would not be getting the vax as she doesn't trust it. Now considering she's in close contact with people through the day. Would you recommend her?
Especially torn as best haircut I've has for years!..
How much does she charge for a BJ and sides?
£5 with, £7 without teeth..