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All it takes is a good toddler with a gun! Arm all toddlers!!
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Raggs wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 9:32 am All it takes is a good toddler with a gun! Arm all toddlers!!
The NRA have been right all along. :wtf
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Again not a mass shooting but another one for the America is Fucked Up file
11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by responding police officer after calling 911 is released from the hospital


An 11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by a police officer after he called 911 for help is recovering after being released from the hospital, according to his family.

The family is calling for the officer to be fired and charged with the shooting.

Aderrien Murry was shot in the chest by an Indianola Police Department officer early Saturday morning while the officer was responding to a domestic disturbance call at the child’s home, according to his mother, Nakala Murry, and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation.

Murry told CNN that the father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m., “irate.”

Concerned about her safety, Murry asked Aderrien to call the police.

Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room.

“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.

The shooting happened within what felt like “one to two minutes” after the officer asked those in the house to come outside, Murry said.

The boy was given a chest tube and placed on a ventilator at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson after developing a collapsed lung, fractured ribs and a lacerated liver because of the shooting, his mother said. He was released from the hospital Wednesday. CNN has reached out to the hospital.

Two other children, including Murry’s daughter and 2-year-old nephew, were also in the home at the time of the shooting, she said.

Body camera footage has not been released
Murry’s family attorney Carlos Moore told CNN the incident was captured on police body camera.

The attorney said his request for the body camera footage was denied due to “an ongoing investigation.”

The body camera video of the incident has not been released publicly.

Moore also said he was told there is video of the incident from a nearby gas station.

The Indianola Police Department confirmed that the officer involved in the shooting is named Greg Capers but did not provide any additional details on the shooting, telling CNN the police chief was unavailable.

CNN reached out to Capers for comment but did not immediately hear back.

On Monday evening, the Indianola Board of Aldermen voted to place Capers on paid administrative leave while the shooting is investigated, according to the family attorney.

In a statement over the weekend, the MBI said the agency is “currently assessing this critical incident and gathering evidence” and would turn over its findings to the state attorney general’s office after the investigation is complete.

On Wednesday, MBI spokesperson Bailey Martin declined to answer additional questions, telling CNN in an email, “Due to this being an open and ongoing investigation, no further comment will be made.”

CNN has contacted the District Attorney’s Office for the Fourth Circuit Court and the Mississippi Attorney General’s Office for comment.

Family angry police officer remains employed by department
Murry said that after her son was shot, she placed her hand on his wound to apply pressure as he “sang gospel songs and prayed while bleeding out.” The officer, she said, tried to help render first aid and placed his hand on top of hers to try to stop Aderrien’s bleeding.

When an ambulance arrived, medics were “very attentive,” she said.

“Aderrien came within an inch of losing his life,” Moore said. “It’s not OK for a cop to do this and get away with this. The mother asked Aderrien to call the police on her daughter’s father. He walked out of his room as directed by the police and he got shot.”

Murry said police told her that her daughter’s father was taken into custody later in the day on Saturday but eventually released because she had not filed a police report against him.

“When was I going to have time to do that? I was in the hospital with my son,” she said, reacting to the news of the man’s release from custody.

Four days after the shooting, Murry told CNN that “no one came to the hospital from the police station” nor had she spoken to any police investigators about the shooting.

“I’m just happy my son is alive,” she said through tears.

Moore told CNN that he is furious that Capers remains employed by the Indianola Police Department.

“We believe that the city and the officer should be liable to Aderrien Murray, for the damages they have caused,” the attorney said.

Moore said they will hold a sit-in protest at the Indianola City Hall on Thursday morning.

Indianola is a small, mostly African American town with 31% of the population below the poverty line. It lies in the Mississippi Delta, about 100 miles north of Jackson.
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30 people shot, 2 fatally, at site of Baltimore block party

Thirty people were injured, two fatally, during an overnight shooting in southern Baltimore, police said Sunday.

The shooting occurred around 12:35 a.m., acting Baltimore police commissioner Richard Worley said during a news conference. There was a block party underway at the address, he said.

Officers received calls about a shooting at 800 Gretna Court in the Brooklyn neighborhood and arrived to find “multiple victims” with gunshot wounds, Worley said.

An 18-year-old woman was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 20-year-old man was pronounced dead at a hospital “a short time later,” according to the Baltimore Police Department.

Twenty-eight other victims were taken to or walked into hospitals, police said, adding that three victims were in critical condition early Sunday.

Police are looking for those responsible and their motive, Worley said. Detectives “are going to be here quite a while,” he said, to comb through what he called “an extensive crime scene.”

“This morning, all of Baltimore is grieving for the lives that we lost here,” Mayor Brandon Scott (D) said during the news conference.

Scott called the shooting “a reckless, cowardly act” that “did not have to happen.”

Speaking directly to those responsible, he said, “We will not stop until we find you, and we will find you. Until then, I hope with every single breath that you take that you think about the lives that you took.”

Scott, elected in 2020 with a pledge to reduce gun violence, wrote in an editorial for The Washington Post in January that authorities must work harder and more holistically to tackle gun violence.

“The reality is that one homicide is one too many,” he wrote at the time. “Violence does not exist in a vacuum, and elected officials, advocates, law enforcement leaders and policymakers owe it to our residents to look toward comprehensive, coordinated solutions.”
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Jacksonville shooting: Racist gunman kills three black people in Florida store

A gunman killed three black people in a racially motivated attack then killed himself in Jacksonville, Florida, the city's sheriff said.

The man, described as white and in his early 20s, entered a Dollar General store and opened fire, triggering a standoff with police.

Sheriff T K Waters said two men and a woman were killed by the gunman, who wore body armour and left manifestos.

Mayor Donna Deegan said it was a "hate-filled crime" driven by racist hatred.

The sheriff said the shooter - who has not yet been officially named - carried a lightweight semi-automatic rifle and a handgun.

He is believed to have acted alone and allegedly wanted to kill himself. He lived in Jacksonville's Clay County with his parents and left several messages about his intentions, Sheriff Waters said, including one to his parents and another to the media. The sheriff added that at least one of the guns had a swastika drawn on it.
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Presumably that's in reference to the Maine shooting spree? Two different incidents so far, believed to be the same gunman; 16 dead, dozens injured.

Just absurd that these are a normal part of life in America.
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I read 22 dead over 3 places, same gunman..
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The Guardian are behind the curve then. So senseless.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:44 am Presumably that's in reference to the Maine shooting spree? Two different incidents so far, believed to be the same gunman; 16 dead, dozens injured.

Just absurd that these are a normal part of life in America.
Yes, I saw an interview with a woman from there who basically said, of course we knew it would come at some point but it's still surprising when it does happen..... what a way to live
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Gun instructor, trained by the military - in and out of hospital with mental health issues - including admitting that he wanted to commit a mass shooting - and STILL he can buy guns and ammo.

The right wing is correct - it isn't the guns that are the problem - it is the complete lack of mental health care in the world's richest country that is the issue.
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A bit of column A and a bit from column B for the mass shootings. You have to be somewhat unhinged to carry one out. Massive restrictions on guns would make it much more difficult for the mentally ill to obtain one or drastically increasing the funding of mental health services while also taking steps to make the States (or certain states) less of a dystopic look into the future of late stage capitalism might help curb the number of people looking to use a firearm for such purposes. Republicans will back neither and so you have to live with the possibility of your life suddenly incorporating a hail of bullets.


The Yanks do, however, have a level of everyday low level gun violence, from teenagers getting shot at for simply using a driveway to make a turn to toddlers accidentally shooting parents by fiddling with a gun in a purse/out in the open, that cannot be explained away by citing mental health issues. It is everything to do with the proliferation of weapons and cultural attitudes towards them. Other developed nations with high gun ownership still typically have 3 to 4 times fewer guns per person than the US and greater restrictions on everything from type of weapon available to the public to how they can be stored.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:31 am Gun instructor, trained by the military - in and out of hospital with mental health issues - including admitting that he wanted to commit a mass shooting - and STILL he can buy guns and ammo.

The right wing is correct - it isn't the guns that are the problem - it is the complete lack of mental health care in the world's richest country that is the issue.
They are the only country in the world where this happens regularly, but not the only one with a lack of mental health care.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:42 am A bit of column A and a bit from column B for the mass shootings. You have to be somewhat unhinged to carry one out. Massive restrictions on guns would make it much more difficult for the mentally ill to obtain one or drastically increasing the funding of mental health services while also taking steps to make the States (or certain states) less of a dystopic look into the future of late stage capitalism might help curb the number of people looking to use a firearm for such purposes. Republicans will back neither and so you have to live with the possibility of your life suddenly incorporating a hail of bullets.


The Yanks do, however, have a level of everyday low level gun violence, from teenagers getting shot at for simply using a driveway to make a turn to toddlers accidentally shooting parents by fiddling with a gun in a purse/out in the open, that cannot be explained away by citing mental health issues. It is everything to do with the proliferation of weapons and cultural attitudes towards them. Other developed nations with high gun ownership still typically have 3 to 4 times fewer guns per person than the US and greater restrictions on everything from type of weapon available to the public to how they can be stored.
Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

Life expectancy in the US is five years less than in Western Europe. The difference is due to guns, opiates and car accidents. If you live to 40, your life expectancy is then the same as in Western Europe. On average, one child in every kindergarten class will be dead by 40 from one of those three causes.
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New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution
Johnson’s comments ultimately imply science teachers are to blame for school shootings

While preaching a sermon in 2016, newly elected GOP Speaker Mike Johnson blamed mass shootings on the teaching of evolution.

Johnson remarks were delivered in a sermon titled Preserving Liberty at Christian Center Shreveport in 2016 in which he promoted his “legal ministry.”

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tabascoboy wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:54 am 'Merica, man
New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution
Johnson’s comments ultimately imply science teachers are to blame for school shootings

While preaching a sermon in 2016, newly elected GOP Speaker Mike Johnson blamed mass shootings on the teaching of evolution.

Johnson remarks were delivered in a sermon titled Preserving Liberty at Christian Center Shreveport in 2016 in which he promoted his “legal ministry.”

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/new-sp ... -evolution
Yeah I'm going to blame terrorism on the Big Bang Theory, stupid physics :cry:
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Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:30 pm
Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

A close friend of mine is now deaf in one ear and even more depressed than he was due to attempting suicide with a pistol

Has to rely on Meetup groups for support, can't work and yet, still has a gun....
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mat the expat wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:50 am
Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:30 pm
Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

A close friend of mine is now deaf in one ear and even more depressed than he was due to attempting suicide with a pistol

Has to rely on Meetup groups for support, can't work and yet, still has a gun....
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Gumboot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:39 am
mat the expat wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:50 am
Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:30 pm
Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

A close friend of mine is now deaf in one ear and even more depressed than he was due to attempting suicide with a pistol

Has to rely on Meetup groups for support, can't work and yet, still has a gun....
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I help him out when I can but sadly, the feeling is always there that he'll do it again one day ....
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Police in Las Vegas are responding to an active shooter alert at the Las Vegas campus of the University of Nevada.

They said there appeared to be "multiple victims at this time" near the university's Beam Hall building.

Las Vegas police later said the suspect had been found dead.

The university first tweeted at around 11:53 local time (19:53 GMT) that police were responding to reports of shots fired on campus.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:32 pm
Police in Las Vegas are responding to an active shooter alert at the Las Vegas campus of the University of Nevada.

They said there appeared to be "multiple victims at this time" near the university's Beam Hall building.

Las Vegas police later said the suspect had been found dead.

The university first tweeted at around 11:53 local time (19:53 GMT) that police were responding to reports of shots fired on campus.
Meanwhile another nutcase has killed a half-dozen or so people down in Austin, & injured others over the course of a couple of days, & Police are trying to put together the pieces of this latest spree killer
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Not a mass shooting (though I'm sure there's been a couple at least in the past week).

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Indeed, as of Sunday morning, more than 42,000 people have died from guns in 2023, according to the Gun Violence Archive. More than 18,400 of them were the result of a homicide.
Imagine the entire population of Dover, or Bury being killed by a preventable cause ...... every year, & doing nothing about it !

For the UK it's the equivalent of what 8,000 preventable deaths ?
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My ‘favourite’ argument for ‘needing’ guns is home protection and criminals with illegal guns (we’re hearing some people on this with a new Canadian crackdown on handguns). But they don’t want to hear how many of those ‘illegal’ guns were stolen from homes and cars of those concerned citizens ‘needing’ them for protection.
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"You got better Xmas presents than I did! BANG-BANG!!"" :crazy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67825635
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:45 am "You got better Xmas presents than I did! BANG-BANG!!"" :crazy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67825635
Holy shit. 14 year old shot and killed his 23 year old sister (who had a baby in a carrier at the time!) out of jealousy of present numbers. The 15 year old brother then used *his* gun to shoot and wound the 14 year old brother! 14 year old will be taken into custody once released from hospital, 15 year old is being charged with attempted murder and tampering with evidence (he ran and threw his gun away).
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Obviously we don't have all the details, but, on the face of it, it seems a bit harsh to be charging the 15 year old.
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According to the Gun Violence Archive, there were almost 43,000 gun violence deaths and more than 650 mass shooting in the USA in 2023.

Fucking insane.
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:45 am "You got better Xmas presents than I did! BANG-BANG!!"" :crazy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67825635
Press conference I saw had a message from the top cop about guns stolen from homes/cars (sounded like both lads' guns were stolen).

And as I'd just said a few days ago, the YT comments were all "It's not about guns, it's about 'their' culture!" :wtf: ... racists AND 2nd Amendment nuts, ignoring that guns were nicked from 'law abiding' people just like them.
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TB63 wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:08 pm
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One victim only luckily so far but could have been far worse with 5 - 10 seriously wounded with sources giving different details

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-u ... a-68300903
One person was killed and nine others seriously injured in a shooting at Kansas City's Union Station
The incident followed a parade celebrating the Kansas City Chiefs' victory in Sunday's Super Bowl
Police say they have arrested two armed suspects
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:48 pm
Indeed, as of Sunday morning, more than 42,000 people have died from guns in 2023, according to the Gun Violence Archive. More than 18,400 of them were the result of a homicide.
Imagine the entire population of Dover, or Bury being killed by a preventable cause ...... every year, & doing nothing about it !

For the UK it's the equivalent of what 8,000 preventable deaths ?
Have you been to Dover?
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