NPR

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:00 pm Surely there's no worse place to be a chubster doing marathon training than in Kenya? All those whippets sprinting passed you on the way to another world record....

handyman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:33 pm Have done fark all since mid January. Don't want to break down with unnecessary injuries.

ASMO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:56 pm The simple answer is don't, walking briskly is good enough for us mortals, leave the running to dogs and horses.

sorCrer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:57 pm Yeah it's not good currently.

Pre lockdown I'd run 8 x 21's, 2 x 32's and a 42 excluding all the in between training. Dropped from 91 to 83kg's. Now I'm back to 91.5kg's. I have managed to walk 8km every day this week and will start running again tomorrow.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:20 pm

sorCrer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:57 pm Yeah it's not good currently.

Pre lockdown I'd run 8 x 21's, 2 x 32's and a 42 excluding all the in between training. Dropped from 91 to 83kg's. Now I'm back to 91.5kg's. I have managed to walk 8km every day this week and will start running again tomorrow.

I've been walking every day for the last 3 months with the wife (she doesn't like running, so we walk fast). However it doesn't keep you as nearly as fit as running and the weight refuses to shift at walking pace.

Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:23 am Had signed up for a half marathon that was due May and training on track to do it comfortably.

However once lockdown hit that went out the window and only just now getting back to 5k since we dropped to level 2.

At this stage I really cant see me singing up for anything longer than 10k in next 12 months

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:04 am I'd planned to get back to marathon/ultra fitness this year after taking a bit of time off last year due to the missus having a baby.

Fangle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:26 pm Sorc, It looks as if you now have at least a strong foundation to go for faster times. You should be able to get close to a nine hour comrades with all this background. Or have you done that already?

sorCrer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:20 pm

Fangle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:26 pm Sorc, It looks as if you now have at least a strong foundation to go for faster times. You should be able to get close to a nine hour comrades with all this background. Or have you done that already?

Nah. Always just ran at the back and enjoyed it. Was going to attempt a sub-10 this year. I'm built more like a sprinter though with big muscular legs. I'd probably be way more suited to but hate cycling. Also getting older.

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:33 pm I'm running every day now but the progress is much slower than it was 3 years ago, in fact, I'm still stuck around a mile a day... Now I'm wondering If I threw away 3 years of work and will have to start over completely. Needless to say I'm very angry at myself.

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:33 pm So I feel like absolute shit right now. I'd been running systematically for the last 3 years or so. I peaked last fall when I ran 25km in 2:10 without much trouble, felt like I had endless energy in general. I relaxed a bit in winter(to one day a week) which I usually do, thinking I'd pick it back up towards the end of February but then the pandemic hit. the gyms closed and I was stuck home for the most of it. Which extended my 2-month break all the way to June(6months). Also worth mentioning that my diet was almost perfect last year but I started eating garbage during the pandemic, probably out of pure boredom as I had nothing else to do. I started running again three weeks ago and I discovered I couldn't even run more than a mile without dropping half dead...

I'm running every day now but the progress is much slower than it was 3 years ago, in fact, I'm still stuck around a mile a day... Now I'm wondering If I threw away 3 years of work and will have to start over completely. Needless to say I'm very angry at myself.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:17 pm I've been watching various documentaries on ultra-marathons.

The Barkley Marathons must be one of the most difficult on earth, both physically and mentally.

robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:31 am It's definitely crazy.

Look at how long it takes quite strong athletes to complete one lap. Nine hours for approx. marathon distance when they are fresh? The course must be brutal.

sorCrer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:42 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:20 pm

sorCrer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:57 pm Yeah it's not good currently.

Pre lockdown I'd run 8 x 21's, 2 x 32's and a 42 excluding all the in between training. Dropped from 91 to 83kg's. Now I'm back to 91.5kg's. I have managed to walk 8km every day this week and will start running again tomorrow.

I've been walking every day for the last 3 months with the wife (she doesn't like running, so we walk fast). However it doesn't keep you as nearly as fit as running and the weight refuses to shift at walking pace.

Not the best for weight loss (does help) but IMHO a critical exercise for runners as they get older.

robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:25 am

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:33 pm So I feel like absolute shit right now. I'd been running systematically for the last 3 years or so. I peaked last fall when I ran 25km in 2:10 without much trouble, felt like I had endless energy in general. I relaxed a bit in winter(to one day a week) which I usually do, thinking I'd pick it back up towards the end of February but then the pandemic hit. the gyms closed and I was stuck home for the most of it. Which extended my 2-month break all the way to June(6months). Also worth mentioning that my diet was almost perfect last year but I started eating garbage during the pandemic, probably out of pure boredom as I had nothing else to do. I started running again three weeks ago and I discovered I couldn't even run more than a mile without dropping half dead...

I'm running every day now but the progress is much slower than it was 3 years ago, in fact, I'm still stuck around a mile a day... Now I'm wondering If I threw away 3 years of work and will have to start over completely. Needless to say I'm very angry at myself.

I'd expect you to still have decent base fitness after a 6 month break, which will enable you to get back to your old groove before too long.

handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:25 am

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:33 pm So I feel like absolute shit right now. I'd been running systematically for the last 3 years or so. I peaked last fall when I ran 25km in 2:10 without much trouble, felt like I had endless energy in general. I relaxed a bit in winter(to one day a week) which I usually do, thinking I'd pick it back up towards the end of February but then the pandemic hit. the gyms closed and I was stuck home for the most of it. Which extended my 2-month break all the way to June(6months). Also worth mentioning that my diet was almost perfect last year but I started eating garbage during the pandemic, probably out of pure boredom as I had nothing else to do. I started running again three weeks ago and I discovered I couldn't even run more than a mile without dropping half dead...

I'm running every day now but the progress is much slower than it was 3 years ago, in fact, I'm still stuck around a mile a day... Now I'm wondering If I threw away 3 years of work and will have to start over completely. Needless to say I'm very angry at myself.

I'd expect you to still have decent base fitness after a 6 month break, which will enable you to get back to your old groove before too long.

Serious question, you really can still have base fitness after 6 months of no activity? I thought you would have to start from scratch?

Asking because I'm starting now after 5 months of fark all running.

robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:25 am

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:33 pm So I feel like absolute shit right now. I'd been running systematically for the last 3 years or so. I peaked last fall when I ran 25km in 2:10 without much trouble, felt like I had endless energy in general. I relaxed a bit in winter(to one day a week) which I usually do, thinking I'd pick it back up towards the end of February but then the pandemic hit. the gyms closed and I was stuck home for the most of it. Which extended my 2-month break all the way to June(6months). Also worth mentioning that my diet was almost perfect last year but I started eating garbage during the pandemic, probably out of pure boredom as I had nothing else to do. I started running again three weeks ago and I discovered I couldn't even run more than a mile without dropping half dead...

I'm running every day now but the progress is much slower than it was 3 years ago, in fact, I'm still stuck around a mile a day... Now I'm wondering If I threw away 3 years of work and will have to start over completely. Needless to say I'm very angry at myself.

I'd expect you to still have decent base fitness after a 6 month break, which will enable you to get back to your old groove before too long.

After a long break, there are a couple of psychological factors in play I think. Firstly, your brain will be pushing you to run at your old pace when you don't have the fitness for it, so you blow up. Especially if you're carrying more weight than you were previously used to. After you get beyond that though, progress should be good because you have higher expectations of what you can achieve. For example, you might not have have psychological barriers at 5km and 10km; you'll just blast past those distances.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:17 pm anyone have any recommendations for knee and ankle supports?

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:12 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:25 am

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:33 pm So I feel like absolute shit right now. I'd been running systematically for the last 3 years or so. I peaked last fall when I ran 25km in 2:10 without much trouble, felt like I had endless energy in general. I relaxed a bit in winter(to one day a week) which I usually do, thinking I'd pick it back up towards the end of February but then the pandemic hit. the gyms closed and I was stuck home for the most of it. Which extended my 2-month break all the way to June(6months). Also worth mentioning that my diet was almost perfect last year but I started eating garbage during the pandemic, probably out of pure boredom as I had nothing else to do. I started running again three weeks ago and I discovered I couldn't even run more than a mile without dropping half dead...

I'm running every day now but the progress is much slower than it was 3 years ago, in fact, I'm still stuck around a mile a day... Now I'm wondering If I threw away 3 years of work and will have to start over completely. Needless to say I'm very angry at myself.

I'd expect you to still have decent base fitness after a 6 month break, which will enable you to get back to your old groove before too long.

After a long break, there are a couple of psychological factors in play I think. Firstly, your brain will be pushing you to run at your old pace when you don't have the fitness for it, so you blow up. Especially if you're carrying more weight than you were previously used to. After you get beyond that though, progress should be good because you have higher expectations of what you can achieve. For example, you might not have have psychological barriers at 5km and 10km; you'll just blast past those distances.

Yea you're probably right. The most frustrating part is remembering how hard I worked the first time around and knowing I have to go through it all over again.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:13 pm Do you ever do interval or low hr runs?

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:20 pm Lads back running a few weeks and struggling to get the time to move significantly downwards. Any tips? Not doing any longer runs these days due to life so just the 5-6kms a day with the dog. Have plateaued at 22.35-45 for 5 km and run that consistently. Plenty of up and down hills so not taking it easy on myself but can't seem to push it on.