Worst terrorist ever
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Proper rubber dinghy rapids stuff thankfully.
Mrs is off to Liverpool Women's this afternoon. Slightly disconcerting, but I doubt there are many safer places in the city today.
Mrs is off to Liverpool Women's this afternoon. Slightly disconcerting, but I doubt there are many safer places in the city today.
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Defo safer than Stanley Park. Even if the terrorists wanted another try.Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:17 pm Proper rubber dinghy rapids stuff thankfully.
Mrs is off to Liverpool Women's this afternoon. Slightly disconcerting, but I doubt there are many safer places in the city today.
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I've been told, by someone in the office, that the taxi driver thought the twat was behaving suspiciously, so locked him in the car
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
I think it was after the bomb went off, which in fairness was quite suspicious.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:03 pm I've been told, by someone in the office, that the taxi driver thought the twat was behaving suspiciously, so locked him in the car
I read the bomb knocked the driver out and when he came to, he scrambled out and locked the door behind him,
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Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:03 pm I've been told, by someone in the office, that the taxi driver thought the twat was behaving suspiciously, so locked him in the car
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Oh fark, never seen this one before , not the thread for butTorquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:43 pmInsane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:03 pm I've been told, by someone in the office, that the taxi driver thought the twat was behaving suspiciously, so locked him in the car
Since the driver got away I think it went off perfectly
Fucking brave security guy running straight towards it to help the guy out
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That cabbie should buy himself a lottery ticket.
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Not sure it is, the beeb saying he's converted to Christianity. Although could've lapsed or cynically used the conversion for asylum I guess.
Agree though what a scumbag. Very lucky nobody died.
If he's a failed asylum seeker I thought he'd be in a yarls wood type place?
Yes, all others released, suggestions of him being mentally ill - although they all are. All very strangeI like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:57 pmNot sure it is, the beeb saying he's converted to Christianity. Although could've lapsed or cynically used the conversion for asylum I guess.
Agree though what a scumbag. Very lucky nobody died.
If he's a failed asylum seeker I thought he'd be in a yarls wood type place?
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Can the op please change the thread title, not a terrorist afterall
Turns out he's Christian, with mental health issues...
Turns out he's Christian, with mental health issues...
... in recent years he may have converted to Christianity and also suffered from mental health issues.
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Apparently a "Christian convert". Evidently could not decide which god ordered him to murder innocents.
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As an aside, why do we never hear of any of these plums' family members being arrested? Hard to believe no family or close friends ever had suspicions that these arseholes were demented, god botherers.
But they still think the target was the Cathedral, not a terribly Christian act. Plus the explosive used was the same one used by the Manchester bomber and others. Looks like a lot more to come out about this. As I said, they are all fucked in the heid anyway.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:31 am Can the op please change the thread title, not a terrorist afterall
Turns out he's Christian, with mental health issues...
... in recent years he may have converted to Christianity and also suffered from mental health issues.
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I don't think that's right, they always seem to arrest family members, usually the first ones to be arrested.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:36 am As an aside, why do we never hear of any of these plums' family members being arrested? Hard to believe no family or close friends ever had suspicions that these arseholes were demented, god botherers.
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Will take your word for it. I'm leaning towards the Keyser Soze/Walter Kurtz solution to this.Slick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:37 amI don't think that's right, they always seem to arrest family members, usually the first ones to be arrested.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:36 am As an aside, why do we never hear of any of these plums' family members being arrested? Hard to believe no family or close friends ever had suspicions that these arseholes were demented, god botherers.
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Ball bearing bombs don't work in tightly confined spaces. They are designed for the opposite. In that level of proximity, the explosive itself will do all the damage. Good job the **** f*cked up his attack.
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I wonder what was going through his mind in the last few seconds as he self immolated - hopefully something like "serves me right for being a cunt"Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:46 amBall bearing bombs don't work in tightly confined spaces. They are designed for the opposite. In that level of proximity, the explosive itself will do all the damage. Good job the **** f*cked up his attack.
Hang on, you think the solution to people being radicalised is to go after their families?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:39 amWill take your word for it. I'm leaning towards the Keyser Soze/Walter Kurtz solution to this.Slick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:37 amI don't think that's right, they always seem to arrest family members, usually the first ones to be arrested.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:36 am As an aside, why do we never hear of any of these plums' family members being arrested? Hard to believe no family or close friends ever had suspicions that these arseholes were demented, god botherers.
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:56 amHang on, you think the solution to people being radicalised is to go after their families?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:39 amWill take your word for it. I'm leaning towards the Keyser Soze/Walter Kurtz solution to this.
They do it for five generations in North Korea.
Slightly odd given that seems to be the number 1 reason they become radicalised.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:56 amHang on, you think the solution to people being radicalised is to go after their families?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:39 amWill take your word for it. I'm leaning towards the Keyser Soze/Walter Kurtz solution to this.
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Truly the gold standard that we should aspire to.Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:58 amJM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:56 amHang on, you think the solution to people being radicalised is to go after their families?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:39 am
Will take your word for it. I'm leaning towards the Keyser Soze/Walter Kurtz solution to this.
They do it for five generations in North Korea.
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Quite a sad story in the Mail about a retired army officer and his wife who met this guy at church during his conversion and then took him into their house for 8 months. What good people and it's very sad this happened to them.
Also seems very lucky he totally failed in his mission. Would've been truly horrific if he got in the hospital or rememberance day services. I guess we never know how lucky we are sometimes.
Also seems very lucky he totally failed in his mission. Would've been truly horrific if he got in the hospital or rememberance day services. I guess we never know how lucky we are sometimes.
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I was being sarcastic. However, it's an interesting moral intellectual exercise whether when faced with an enemy whose modus operandi is to "die to the last man or victory", the only practical solutions are surrender or total annihilation.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:56 amHang on, you think the solution to people being radicalised is to go after their families?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:39 amWill take your word for it. I'm leaning towards the Keyser Soze/Walter Kurtz solution to this.
Here, the enemy does not care about his own life and so the threat of death is meaningless (setting aside the practical implications of detecting individuals amongst a concealing mass of anything: forests or people). What credible deterrent does that leave you with?
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The man took a taxi to his own suicide bombing. There are probably other ways of stopping this happening aside from killing his whole family.
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I suspect that rooted in Islam is a seed of such destruction that has inevitable flowerings. The Umayyads ran a model of tolerance, prosperity art and culture..... only for most of them to have their heads cut off by the radical Abbasyds.
I don't doubt that what you say is is a contributory factor. However, part of the failing (be it in subjugation/conquest or seeking peace/isolation) is in seeing the matters through Western tinted glasses. You simply cannot find solutions** using a moral or logical framework that does not map on to your subject.
{EDIT}** I should have said "solutions to your satisfaction".
Well, you're the one demanding solutions that can cover even bizarre people like this guy, so what's your idea beyond silly "salt the earth" reprisals?Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:16 pmI suspect that rooted in Islam is a seed of such destruction that has inevitable flowerings. The Umayyads ran a model of tolerance, prosperity art and culture..... only for most of them to have their heads cut off by the radical Abbasyds.
I don't doubt that what you say is is a contributory factor. However, part of the failing (be it in subjugation/conquest or seeking peace/isolation) is in seeing the matters through Western tinted glasses. You simply cannot find solutions** using a moral or logical framework that does not map on to your subject.
{EDIT}** I should have said "solutions to your satisfaction".
No one should buy this converted to Christianity shit. His ‘conversion’ was only so the bedwetters wouldn’t send the cunt home as it would be dangerous for him in his backwards medieval country as a supposed apostateI like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:57 pmNot sure it is, the beeb saying he's converted to Christianity. Although could've lapsed or cynically used the conversion for asylum I guess.
Agree though what a scumbag. Very lucky nobody died.
If he's a failed asylum seeker I thought he'd be in a yarls wood type place?