NPR

Final weekend.

Sat

1pm GMT | 2pm CET | 3pm SAST | 2am NZT (Sun)

Scotland v Japan
Italy v Uruguay


3.15pm GMT | 4.15pm CET | 5.15pm SAST | 4.15am NZT (Sun)

England v South Africa


5.30pm GMT | 6.30 CET | 7.30pm SAST | 6.30am NZT (Sun)

Wales v Australia


8pm GMT | 9pm CET | 10pm SAST | 9am NZT (Mon)

France v New Zealand


Sun

2.15pm GMT | 3.15pm CET | 4.15pm SAST | 3.15am NZT

Ireland v Argentina

Thought I’d pop this up as the SA team has probably already been announced!!

ABs by some very large numbers.

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:37 pm Thought I’d pop this up as the SA team has probably already been announced!!

Bitch

Scotland by 20
Italy by 15
England by 3. Edit: Just heard Farrell is out. England by 10.
Australia by 14
New Zealand by 10
Ireland by 18

PCPhil wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:52 pm Scotland by 20
Italy by 15
England by 3. Edit: Just heard Farrell is out. England by 10.
Australia by 14
New Zealand by 10
Ireland by 18

Sexy is out too; so you might want to adjust our spread too

Springbokke vs England is going to be a royal battle. Eddie Jones is already claiming our scalp. Nothing better then beating England. Anglo Boer war time.

In Eddie we …. er….trust.

Scotland by 30
Italy by 40
SA by 3
Aus by 15
France NZ draw
Ireland by 25

Scotland by 30
Uruguay by 1
South Africa by 9
Australia by 10
NZ by 25
Ireland by 15

Gumboot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:00 pm Scotland by 30
Uruguay by 1
South Africa by 9
Australia by 10
NZ by 25
Ireland by 15

You bully. Now we are going to lose our one Italian poster on here !

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:33 pm Springbokke vs England is going to be a royal battle. Eddie Jones is already claiming our scalp. Nothing better then beating England. Anglo Boer war time.

Weakened as it is, you're going to have your way with our tight five at the set piece. From there you'll have a comfortable win where you rarely looked under threat.

Our faintest hope is that without Farrell around Marcus Smith might go full Quins and come up with some batshit running rugby magic that touches the rest of the team, but the backs probably aren't going to see the ball.

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:08 pm

Gumboot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:00 pm Scotland by 30
Uruguay by 1
South Africa by 9
Australia by 10
NZ by 25
Ireland by 15

You bully. Now we are going to lose our one Italian poster on here !

We have an Italian poster?

England forward pack looks vulnerable. I think they could be in for a long afternoon. Send them packing backwards and see how Smith responds.

I reckon they'll start with Marler, despite him being in isolation all this time. They need some serious grunt up front and I think he's the only one who can bring it.

I haven't look so forward to a match in a long time.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:46 am England forward pack looks vulnerable. I think they could be in for a long afternoon. Send them packing backwards and see how Smith responds.

I reckon they'll start with Marler, despite him being in isolation all this time. They need some serious grunt up front and I think he's the only one who can bring it.

I haven't look so forward to a match in a long time.

Although I agree with you, there is a lingering memory of England dismantling the All Blacks in 2019.

As usual I feel nauseous and pessimistic about the forthcoming test match. My dreams are wracked by Willie and Hersh doing silly things.

I'm still not sure whether Rassie is just a jammy king troll genius or is the real deal. He is very lucky to have one of the very best tight 5s of all time and quality in other key positions.

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:53 am Although I agree with you, there is a lingering memory of England dismantling the All Blacks in 2019.

My lingering memory is of the week following that

Compared to that team, England will be without both Vunipolas and no Jamie George either. I don't think Curry is a natural 8 either. Hill will give away half a dozen penalties.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:09 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:53 am Although I agree with you, there is a lingering memory of England dismantling the All Blacks in 2019.

My lingering memory is of the week following that

Compared to that team, England will be without both Vunipolas and no Jamie George either. I don't think Curry is a natural 8 either. Hill will give away half a dozen penalties.

Yes, but......

If Jones picks thst big #8, I think his name is Marchand? And Marler it will be a really good pack.

Smith at 10
Tuigalagi at 12
The new guy at 15

It could be a pretty dangerous team.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:00 am As usual I feel nauseous and pessimistic about the forthcoming test match. My dreams are wracked by Willie and Hersh doing silly things.

I'm still not sure whether Rassie is just a jammy king troll genius or is the real deal. He is very lucky to have one of the very best tight 5s of all time and quality in other key positions.

Did we not have more or less the same tight 5 players available with previous coaches?

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:33 pm Springbokke vs England is going to be a royal battle. Eddie Jones is already claiming our scalp. Nothing better then beating England. Anglo Boer war time.

Eddie always shoots his mouth off.....do you still bother with him. ....We should walk this tbh

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:35 am If Jones picks thst big #8, I think his name is Marchand? And Marler it will be a really good pack.

Smith at 10
Tuigalagi at 12
The new guy at 15

It could be a pretty dangerous team.

Marchand is a 13. Jones' other options at 8 are Simmonds and Dombrandt. Both are excellent, so I'm not sure why he picks Curry at 8.

Backline could be very good though. I think England will be a more dangerous team with Tuilagi at 12 instead of Farrel.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:52 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:35 am If Jones picks thst big #8, I think his name is Marchand? And Marler it will be a really good pack.

Smith at 10
Tuigalagi at 12
The new guy at 15

It could be a pretty dangerous team.

Marchand is a 13. Jones' other options at 8 are Simmonds and Dombrandt. Both are excellent, so I'm not sure why he picks Curry at 8.

Backline could be very good though. I think England will be a more dangerous team with Tuilagi at 12 instead of Farrel.

Dombrandt. That's him yes.
He looked pretty damn good.

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:22 am Dombrandt. That's him yes.
He looked pretty damn good.

Yea he's damn good. But I doubt Jones will start with him as he's only got a couple of caps under his belt.

Ginga

We feel that it’s the most important game of the season,” he explained.

“It has been a tough, long year, but there is a lot of energy in the camp to get a good result. It is an important game for us to keep our No 1 spot in the world rankings until the international season starts again next year.

“This is a game of a lot of importance and it’s great just to go three on the trot.”

Bit of a banana peel match for the Boks. We've traditionally dropped our test against England in our end of year tours.
Jones is also a sly old fox. When he takes the Boks seriously, he has always come up with creative ways to handle us.
They are not saying it out loud, but I'm sure he and a couple of players, want to look at this as a RWC final rematch and just put that disappointment behind them.

That being said, I'm cautiously optimistic. We are going to have to come to play though.
I don't think we are going to have the same dominance we enjoyed against Wales and Scotland at scrum time or at the lineout.
Itoje is going to be a massive nuisance like he was for the Lions. Neutralising him is going to have to be a priority.
Smith is the wildcard. He might manage to pull off some magic out wide; so the defense will need to keep him in check.
Freddie Steward was phenomenal under the high ball against Australia. If he manages a similar performance I don't think we are going to get a lot out of our main attacking weapon, which is a concern.

Hoping for a good match. Boks by 6.

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:08 pm

Gumboot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:00 pm Scotland by 30
Uruguay by 1
South Africa by 9
Australia by 10
NZ by 25
Ireland by 15

You bully. Now we are going to lose our one Italian poster on here !

Uruguay did lose against Italy A at the weekend, so it'd be quite impressive if the senior team managed to lose against them. Which is why it will probably happen

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:09 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:53 am Although I agree with you, there is a lingering memory of England dismantling the All Blacks in 2019.

My lingering memory is of the week following that

Compared to that team, England will be without both Vunipolas and no Jamie George either. I don't think Curry is a natural 8 either. Hill will give away half a dozen penalties.

Only gave 1 away last week and probably had his best game in an England shirt. Will need his bulk to counter the Saffa behemoths!

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:52 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:35 am If Jones picks thst big #8, I think his name is Marchand? And Marler it will be a really good pack.

Smith at 10
Tuigalagi at 12
The new guy at 15

It could be a pretty dangerous team.

Marchand is a 13. Jones' other options at 8 are Simmonds and Dombrandt. Both are excellent, so I'm not sure why he picks Curry at 8.

Backline could be very good though. I think England will be a more dangerous team with Tuilagi at 12 instead of Farrel.

Marchant is a an outside centre/wing who should certainly be starting ahead of Slade.

Marchand is one of France's many excellent hookers.

Eddie should absolutely go with Dombrandt, but he's been astonishingly reluctant to pick him in the past and has already publicly wafflled about Curry potentially being a world class 8, so he'll probably stick with the latter.

Our backline could well be one of the best we've put out in years, however it will probably only see the ball from kicks given the monstering your tight five is going to give ours.

Can't see how we win enough ball and don't get monstered up front so hard to see us being able to go the distance.

Going to Murrayfield with the lads from school as we first did 40 years ago. My 19 year old son is coming along too and has been doing some serious training during his first year at Uni. I have a feeling he will out pace us old boys in the drinking stakes. Still will be a superb day I hope.

Scotland by 23 points.

The expected side for the English
Lood starting. Reinach starting. Pollard starting

Mostert on the bench as well as Herschel......and the other Jantjies

Team as expected, but I'm not sure what Pollard or EJ did to warrant that switch.

But anyway. Pack looks ace. That front row are going to fuck shit up

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:41 am Team as expected, but I'm not sure what Pollard or EJ did to warrant that switch.

But anyway. Pack looks ace. That front row are going to fuck shit up

I would have preferred Elton and Frans to start, Handre and Willie on the bench.

On a sidenote, imagine injecting RG Snyman, PSDT, Marco van Staden and Cheslin Kolbe into that squad.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:41 am Team as expected, but I'm not sure what Pollard or EJ did to warrant that switch.

But anyway. Pack looks ace. That front row are going to fuck shit up

Probably our best side this tour.
Planning on monstering England.

The English forwards are going to be raped

How the fuck is Willie still starting?????

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:57 am

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:41 am Team as expected, but I'm not sure what Pollard or EJ did to warrant that switch.

But anyway. Pack looks ace. That front row are going to fuck shit up

Probably our best side this tour.
Planning on monstering England.

The English forwards are going to be raped

Charming

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:01 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:57 am

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:41 am Team as expected, but I'm not sure what Pollard or EJ did to warrant that switch.

But anyway. Pack looks ace. That front row are going to fuck shit up

Probably our best side this tour.
Planning on monstering England.

The English forwards are going to be raped

Charming

Quite, a wonderful way with words

Springbok Team vs England:

15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 71 caps, 60 pts (12t)
14 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 50 caps, 60 pts (12t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 25 caps, 25 pts (5t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 57 caps, 35 pts (7t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 24 caps, 95 pts (19t)
10 – Handré Pollard (Montpellier) – 59 caps, 586 pts (6t, 83c, 126p, 4d)
9 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 20 caps, 40pts (8t)
8 – Duane Vermeulen (Ulster) – 60 caps, 15 pts (3t)
7 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 18 caps, 5 pts (1t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 62 caps, 30 pts (6t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 55 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 96 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 53 caps, 5pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks) – 47 caps, 45 pts (9t)
1 – Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks) – 8 caps, 0pts

Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 45 caps, 50 pts (10t)
17 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 58 caps, 5pts (1t)
18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 30 caps, 0 pts
19 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 50 caps, 5pts (1t)
20 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 10 caps, 0 pts
21 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 20 caps, 25 pts (5t)
22 – Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes) – 43 caps, 323 pts (2t, 65c, 60p, 1d)
23 – Frans Steyn (Toyota Cheetahs) – 73 caps, 147pts (11t, 7c, 23p, 3d)

Pity they are persisting with Kriel on the wing and not getting Nkosi or Fassi in there.
Also think Elton Jantjies is a bit hard done by as he had a decent showing against Scotland.
Happy with the rest.

Think England are going to be up for it though. Hope our forwards don't go into the match overconfident.
I'm expecting Itoje to have a blinder with his back against the wall. He is just one of those players.

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:15 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:01 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:57 am

Probably our best side this tour.
Planning on monstering England.

The English forwards are going to be raped

Charming

Quite, a wonderful way with words

Projection???