1 Ben May
2 Dane Coles [cc]
3 Tyrel Lomax
4 James Blackwell
5 Scott Scrafton
6 Reed Prinsep
7 Du’Plessis Kirifi
8 Ardie Savea
9 TJ Perenara [cc]
10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
11 Ben Lam
12 Ngani Laumape
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Kobus Van Wyk
15 Jordie Barrett
Sure. It might, depend on who is asking though. Maybe.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:56 am
by Ymx
Ted. wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:53 am
I was just about to create a thread. It's a good thing I checked first, Ali.
Sorry mate. I did so on RBs instruction. Let us know if there’s any extra content you want in the OP.
And will happily dot this one if you want to do it.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:01 am
by ManhoodObesity
I am in Auckland sadly. Be keen to meet up with some of you insane cunce at the Kingslander or Eden Park
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:03 am
by Ymx
Not FOG then?
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:10 am
by Monkey Magic
Looking forward to this.
Blues will be hurting - physically and mentally - after the saders game. Hurricanes finding some form of mojo and bit of revenge for round 1.
Really enjoyed the first game between these two, hoping it's a repeat with fewer penalties now teams have got used/refs have eased off the interpretation.
Player wise keen to see Barrett B do some barretty things, and hope Faiane is back at 12
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:37 am
by Ymx
Fat Old Git. Thought it was a play on the user name.
But he’s a cantab. And he would unlikely use the phrase insane cunce
Who were you at PR?
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:03 am
by -RB-
Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:37 am
Fat Old Git. Thought it was a play on the user name.
But he’s a cantab. And he would unlikely use the phrase insane cunce
Who were you at PR?
Is it Kovana?
Username fits....
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:05 am
by -RB-
Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:10 am
Looking forward to this.
Blues will be hurting - physically and mentally - after the saders game. Hurricanes finding some form of mojo and bit of revenge for round 1.
Really enjoyed the first game between these two, hoping it's a repeat with fewer penalties now teams have got used/refs have eased off the interpretation.
Player wise keen to see Barrett B do some barretty things, and hope Faiane is back at 12
I hope the Barrett's are both at fullback.
Either way I'll be internally booing that traitorous cunt Beauden for all I'm worth.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Ted. wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:53 am
I was just about to create a thread. It's a good thing I checked first, Ali.
Sorry mate. I did so on RBs instruction. Let us know if there’s any extra content you want in the OP.
And will happily dot this one if you want to do it.
Nah, waste of a perfectly good thread. Plus, you snooze you lose.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:13 pm
by Ymx
I’m seeing, or at least think I’m seeing a reduction in ruck penalties.
If so, do we think this is down to
a) the players adapting
b) the realisation of it creating too many penalties and the pendulum swinging back in refs interpretations
I personally think it’s mostly b.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:14 pm
by Ymx
Also, I had expected Savea to have absolutely run riot with the new laws, but hasn’t imo.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:24 am
by FujiKiwi
A few days ago I would have said the Blues were clear favorites. But the Hurricanes showed both nous and flair yesterday. It’s not as clear cut as it was but I still pick the Blues to win this.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:50 am
by Gumboot
Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:13 pm
I’m seeing, or at least think I’m seeing a reduction in ruck penalties.
If so, do we think this is down to
a) the players adapting
b) the realisation of it creating too many penalties and the pendulum swinging back in refs interpretations
I personally think it’s mostly b.
Yeah, think you're right about there being fewer ruck penalties. Tacklers and other defenders who are off their feet seem to be getting out of the way a lot faster. Not so many players diving over the ball, not so many coming in from the side - so I think it's largely to option a rather than the refs intentionally dialling it back.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:11 am
by FujiKiwi
Doesn't it seem that more ruck penalties are going against the attacking side? In their desperation to secure ball, the attackers are diving off their feet and the refs are pinging them for it. The new rules just seem to have given too much to the defending side, for my money, meaning that enterprising teams aren't being rewarded for keeping the ball in hand.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:55 pm
by Ymx
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:11 am
Doesn't it seem that more ruck penalties are going against the attacking side? In their desperation to secure ball, the attackers are diving off their feet and the refs are pinging them for it. The new rules just seem to have given too much to the defending side, for my money, meaning that enterprising teams aren't being rewarded for keeping the ball in hand.
And it’s in a time we want to encourage the attacking team, reducing cynical play, and reducing stoppage time.
Not convinced they’ve helped in those metrics
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:56 pm
by Ymx
Although I can’t but help think certain nations in a certain part of the planet will be rejoicing in this new area of penalties (opportunity to get penalties)
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:47 pm
by Enzedder
Officials
Saturday 18 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, Wellington
Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
Assistant Referee 1: Brendon Pickerill
Assistant Referee 2: Paul Williams
TMO: James Doleman
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:32 am
by FujiKiwi
The Canes midfield of Laumape and Aso provides a real threat. I hope the Blues look to fight fire with fire and start Faiane and Ioane.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:19 am
by FujiKiwi
Some speculation that Otere Black will be dropped in order for Beauden Barrett to run the cutter from 10.
Stuart Barnes quoted AGAIN with his tired old guff about Barrett being a better 10 than a 15.
Apart from a good year in 2016, Barrett's best moments have been at 15 OR coming on as an impact player at 10.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:55 am
by Kiwias
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:32 am
The Canes midfield of Laumape and Aso provides a real threat. I hope the Blues look to fight fire with fire and start Faiane and Ioane.
Four very impressive players going head to head.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:19 am
by -RB-
Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:14 pm
Also, I had expected Savea to have absolutely run riot with the new laws, but hasn’t imo.
Yeah he's been pretty quiet of late. I was wondering if he had a niggle.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:08 am
by Gumboot
I think Kirifi's been the pick of the Canes' loosies so far, but he throws himself around with such reckless disregard that you have to worry about his longevity. Reminds me of Jordan Taufua.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Stuart Barnes quoted AGAIN with his tired old guff about Barrett being a better 10 than a 15.
Apart from a good year in 2016, Barrett's best moments have been at 15 OR coming on as an impact player at 10.
Oh dear, I expect more from MacDonald than that. I hope that's not correct.
It would be interesting to see how Barrett goes though. He'd probably make a decent fist of it given defences are not as in your face as Tier 1 test matches.
I agree with you though, Barrett's best performances in recent years have been starting at fullback or as a super sub.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:33 am
by FujiKiwi
Blues named. Carter not considered due to calf injury, Barrett at 15.
BLUES: Beauden Barrett, Mark Telea, Rieko Ioane, Harry Plummer, Emoni Narawa, Otere Black, Finlay Christie; Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii, Aaron Carroll, Josh Goodhue, Patrick Tuipulotu (capt), Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Kurt Eklund, Alex Hodgman. Reserves: Tolai Luteru, Marcel Renata, Sione Mafileo, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Tony Lamborn, Jonathan Ruru, TJ Faiane, Matt Duffie.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:34 am
by FujiKiwi
Not convinced by TJ Faiane being kept on the bench again.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:55 am
by stemoc
Canes
1 Ben May
2 Dane Coles [cc]
3 Tyrel Lomax
4 James Blackwell
5 Scott Scrafton
6 Reed Prinsep
7 Du’Plessis Kirifi
8 Ardie Savea
9 TJ Perenara [cc]
10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
11 Ben Lam
12 Ngani Laumape
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Kobus Van Wyk
15 Jordie Barrett
He’s said it before, Hurricanes coach Jason Holland, and on Thursday he said it again for effect: Jordie Barrett is “streets ahead” as best fullback in Super Rugby Aotearoa.
It’s a bold statement with the likes of rising Crusaders star Will Jordan and Chiefs All Black Damian McKenzie filling the 15 jerseys at other franchises. And, most notably, a bloke named Beauden Barrett who returns to Wellington as fullback for the Blues on Saturday night.
After a false start in round one when Jordie Barrett was ruled out with a shoulder injury, the battle of the Barrett brothers is officially on at Sky Stadium (7.05pm).
Asked the question about his Barrett, the younger, Holland was only too happy to talk him up.
“A hundred per cent: in my eyes he’s the best [fullback] in the country but he’s got to work hard to make sure he stays there and perform week in, week out,” Holland said.
It's more than fair to say Jordie is ahead of Beaudy at this stage. But at the moment, for me, Will Jordan is the fullback with all the X factor in the comp.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:32 am
The Canes midfield of Laumape and Aso provides a real threat. I hope the Blues look to fight fire with fire and start Faiane and Ioane.
Four very impressive players going head to head.
I’m starting to think that Rieko might be the best centre in the comp, he’s playing very well there, only thing is that he doesn’t have a lot of experience in a position where experience is everything imo. But he does look the goods.
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:48 am
by FujiKiwi
Interesting. As a dyed-in-the-wool Blues fan I don’t see Rieko as a standout centre. He’s not bad, certainly. But I don’t see him as being ahead of the likes of Ennor and Goodhue, who I know is playing 12 at the moment, but is probably the starting centre outside ALB for the All Blacks.
I hope you’re right, though, Trapper!
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:52 am
by Monkey Magic
FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:33 am
Blues named. Carter not considered due to calf injury, Barrett at 15.
BLUES: Beauden Barrett, Mark Telea, Rieko Ioane, Harry Plummer, Emoni Narawa, Otere Black, Finlay Christie; Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii, Aaron Carroll, Josh Goodhue, Patrick Tuipulotu (capt), Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Kurt Eklund, Alex Hodgman. Reserves: Tolai Luteru, Marcel Renata, Sione Mafileo, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Tony Lamborn, Jonathan Ruru, TJ Faiane, Matt Duffie.
What is Narawa like? Still not a Plummer fan.
Hoping the weather plays ball and both backlines get to light it up.
After being so prominent in the lineout for the blues last week losing Sotutu is a big blow. In round one every time the canes were working their way into the game they'd blow an attacking line out, hopefully the blues can still pressure that area
Re: Hurricanes v Blues : MATCH THREAD : Sat 18th Jul
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:17 am
by FujiKiwi
Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:52 am
What is Narawa like? Still not a Plummer fan.
A speedy winger. Good step, too. He's kind of slight. Not a big lad.
