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If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 2:32 pm
by Uncle fester

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 2:40 pm
by Raggs
In a game like sevens, I think I'd be doing exactly the same.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 2:47 pm
by Uncle fester
I genuinely hate the sevens law re mauls. It's supposed to be a game of movement and speed over and above 15's so the way they apply the maul law is an abomination.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 3:13 pm
by GogLais
Two teams cooperating to achieve a result that suits them both - isn’t that match fixing? Shades of the Germany Austria 0-0 in the 1970s.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 3:27 pm
by Biffer
Should have been penalised as an act contrary to the spirit of good sportsmanship.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:02 pm
by Torquemada 1420
GogLais wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 3:13 pm Two teams cooperating to achieve a result that suits them both - isn’t that match fixing? Shades of the Germany Austria 0-0 in the 1970s.
Wasn't that '82? And 1-0 to Germany?

Anyway, in answer to the abomination above, you should have 3 secs to dot down or no try and drop out to oppos.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:12 pm
by Mr Tim Buktoo
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 9:02 pm
GogLais wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 3:13 pm Two teams cooperating to achieve a result that suits them both - isn’t that match fixing? Shades of the Germany Austria 0-0 in the 1970s.
Wasn't that '82? And 1-0 to Germany?

Anyway, in answer to the abomination above, you should have 3 secs to dot down or no try and drop out to oppos.
Ire v Holland 1990 also.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:18 pm
by GogLais
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 9:02 pm
GogLais wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 3:13 pm Two teams cooperating to achieve a result that suits them both - isn’t that match fixing? Shades of the Germany Austria 0-0 in the 1970s.
Wasn't that '82? And 1-0 to Germany?

Anyway, in answer to the abomination above, you should have 3 secs to dot down or no try and drop out to oppos.
Indeed, just testing my memory. Tbh in this case I think Argentina's behaviour is much worse than England's. I'm not sure what a ref can do on the pitch if teams connive like this.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:22 pm
by Torquemada 1420
GogLais wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 9:18 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 9:02 pm
GogLais wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 3:13 pm Two teams cooperating to achieve a result that suits them both - isn’t that match fixing? Shades of the Germany Austria 0-0 in the 1970s.
Wasn't that '82? And 1-0 to Germany?

Anyway, in answer to the abomination above, you should have 3 secs to dot down or no try and drop out to oppos.
Indeed, just testing my memory. Tbh in this case I think Argentina's behaviour is much worse than England's. I'm not sure what a ref can do on the pitch if teams connive like this.
Argentina cheating? Who'd have thunk it?

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 1:47 am
by Niegs
I've always detested the turn, come get me... while... I... slowly... PUTTHEBALLDOWNNOW! Just as the defender arrives.

Abomination of a sport. I blame the Scots. 10s is a MUCH better abbreviated game.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 3:21 pm
by laurent
Niegs wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 1:47 am I've always detested the turn, come get me... while... I... slowly... PUTTHEBALLDOWNNOW! Just as the defender arrives.

Abomination of a sport. I blame the Scots. 10s is a MUCH better abbreviated game.
Totally agree on 10's

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 3:53 pm
by Niegs
laurent wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 3:21 pm
Niegs wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 1:47 am I've always detested the turn, come get me... while... I... slowly... PUTTHEBALLDOWNNOW! Just as the defender arrives.

Abomination of a sport. I blame the Scots. 10s is a MUCH better abbreviated game.
Totally agree on 10's
It's become a bit of a bug bear of mine, especially, in Victoria, BC. High school here has stuck to 7s, saying they don't have the numbers for 15s. But many schools have enough for 10s. 7s clearly scares away the 'bigger' girls (would have me as well as a chubby gridiron lineman convert to rugby!). I brought this up with some long-time club players and we figured out that between the two women's clubs here, just three tight five players in the last 8 years are local! The rest are all people who moved here for school or work from places where they grew up playing 15s. But being the home of the Canadian 7s programs, they LOVE the sport here, though it's barely played at the adult level. :wtf:

/rant

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:38 pm
by Kawazaki
I never played 10s, assume it's 6 forwards and 4 backs? No flankers, no back-3.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 8:40 pm
by laurent
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 6:38 pm I never played 10s, assume it's 6 forwards and 4 backs? No flankers, no back-3.
5 5 split

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 9:53 pm
by Niegs
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 6:38 pm I never played 10s, assume it's 6 forwards and 4 backs? No flankers, no back-3.
I like that you have to work a bit harder for your tries, more support for the individuals who make a break. I think 7s often makes it easier to defend if you have speed / energy left as it's fairly clear who to take. Multiple support runners and you're not so sure, but not as congested as 15s, obv.

There are full matches on youtube from the Brisbane 10s, but some top tries:

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:09 am
by Flockwitt
10s is definitely the superior game. It does allow for a bigger mix of player types and skill levels to enjoy a competition. If you're outmatched in 7s as a player or a team it is brutal.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:14 am
by Kawazaki
laurent wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 8:40 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 6:38 pm I never played 10s, assume it's 6 forwards and 4 backs? No flankers, no back-3.
5 5 split

What's a 5-man scrum like, many collapses, wheels a lot?

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:30 am
by Flockwitt
Kawazaki wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 6:14 am
laurent wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 8:40 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 6:38 pm I never played 10s, assume it's 6 forwards and 4 backs? No flankers, no back-3.
5 5 split

What's a 5-man scrum like, many collapses, wheels a lot?
They tend to be more like old school scrums, get down, the ball comes out quickly. If you've got a scrum you generally want to get your backs in motion because there's plenty of space for them with the forward bound up.

Re: If you thought caterpillar rucks were bad

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:28 am
by Kiwias
Regarding the OP, who was the AB forward who thought that would be a good idea to mimic in a test match last year?