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Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:07 pm**

With just a year to go to the Lions tour (maybe) how come this site has so many thread titles exported over but no Lions thread??

I'll leave the official one to someone more adept with pictures than me but this is the Official selection, moaning, bitching, laughing at Gatland trolling various people thread.

So in bored tradition, here is a 23 to take on SA if it was in a few weeks so no form to go on but hopefully very few injuries. Couple of baits in here to see what can be reeled in...

Vunipola
George
Furlong
Ryan
Itoje
Wainwright
Curry
Vunipola
Webb
Farrell (c)
Watson
Tuilagi
Davies
Daly
Hogg

Genge, LCD, Sinks, Lawes, Faletau, Williams, Russell, Williams

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:38 pm**

It's just a farce with Gatland's bias selecting his Welsh players over the obviously superior Eng/Scot/Irish [delete as appropriate] ones

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:42 pm**

Wainwright??? Webb??? C’mon

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:47 pm**

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:42 pm Wainwright??? Webb??? C’mon

All day.

Webb is a genuine pick if on form though. There's a dearth of quality scrum halves in the NH (excluding France).

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:48 pm**

It's been so long since I've watched a game of rugby, I can't personally remember how good any of them are.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:51 pm**

If I was picking the team tomorrow, it would be basically England + guests.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:53 pm**

Always enjoy a good lions selection thread.

One thing's for sure. The English players are going to be fucked come next June.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:57 pm**

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:48 pm It's been so long since I've watched a game of rugby, I can't personally remember how good any of them are.

Yeah, good point. It will be interesting to see how pre-Covid form translates.

It’s a cliche that class is permanent and form is temporary. I guess this is an opportunity to test that.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:10 pm**

Un Pilier wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:42 pm Wainwright??? Webb??? C’mon

The Wainwright of the world cup goes. The Wainwright of March doesn't.

Honestly the Lions could get pumped 3-0. Wales were very poor in the Six Nations, Ireland are the worst they've been in years, Scotland are Scotland. Which leaves England. Who got pumped by the Boks.

Having said that, the rest may have done these players some good.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:03 pm**

Munch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:51 pm If I was picking the team tomorrow, it would be basically England + guests.

Honestly, I think this might be the best strategy. Although no-one really likes the English, so tour morale would be in the toilet. Maybe Ireland + guests? Not sure if Scotland + guests would be worth calling ‘Scotland’, though lots of Scots should make the tour.

Either way, you want a core of a national team, bolstered with able upgrades.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:20 pm**

George will have a year of championship behind him, surely wouldn't be up to the task? As I have said numerous times on the previous bored, I just don't get Farrell: I don't think he's in the top 3 10's in the UK and Ireland, not even England's best 10, in my opinion.

As for the series, SA to smash the Lions 3-0, I think.

Posted: **Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:30 pm**

I don’t think George would suffer that much from playing in the championship. He’d still get battle-hardened by England, wouldn’t he? The Lions will need his dynamism and youthful derring-do.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:34 am**

lack of irish in the backline is confusing.. surely one of those pretty ones will be there? can't remember name (not shrek)

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:23 am**

Silly picking the Lions team now, Wales haven't pulled their usual trick of beating all comers in the Six Nations before the Lions Tour yet.

Wales peak for the season before the Lions.

Plus the English team are so fucking deplorable I doubt Gatland would ever go near them and quite right too.

If the ref was on the ball in Twickenham, against Wales, they (England) would have received 3 red cards.

That is a massive disciplinary issue when the pressure is on.

If that happened during a Lions test my gawd, can you imagine?. These are players who Eddie Jones can barely control, poor Gatland would have no chance.

First rule of rugby, you have to keep your players on the park.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:35 am**

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:23 am Silly picking the Lions team now, Wales haven't pulled their usual trick of beating all comers in the Six Nations before the Lions Tour yet.

Wales peak for the season before the Lions.

Plus the English team are so fucking deplorable I doubt Gatland would ever go near them and quite right too.

If the ref was on the ball in Twickenham, against Wales, they (England) would have received 3 red cards.

That is a massive disciplinary issue when the pressure is on.

If that happened during a Lions test my gawd, can you imagine?. These are players who Eddie Jones can barely control, poor Gatland would have no chance.

First rule of rugby, you have to keep your players on the park.

Yes, in 2017, Wales really did smash all comers.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:50 am**

Look I am not saying English supporters will agree with me, of course not, but looking at it objectively, they basically forfeited their Lions jerseys that day. It was a disgusting, sneering, petulant spectacle I honestly hope I will never again witness,.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:04 am**

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:03 pm
Munch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:51 pm If I was picking the team tomorrow, it would be basically England + guests.
Honestly, I think this might be the best strategy. Although no-one really likes the English, so tour morale would be in the toilet. Maybe Ireland + guests? Not sure if Scotland + guests would be worth calling ‘Scotland’, though lots of Scots should make the tour.

Either way, you want a core of a national team, bolstered with able upgrades.

You what? What's the point of the Gatland Lions if all of a sudden he starts selecting Scots? Their sole purpose is for the Scots to be angry at someone else than the Scots for a change.

On recent form I'd select Sutherland, Ritchie, Watson, Russell, Johnson, Hogg for the tour party. Possibly one out of Brown and McInally too. Huw Jones if he returns to form. But I trust Gatland to do the right thing and take Hogg (severely injured by some Irish thug before the first tour match) and a token winger for the dirt-trackers (Darcy Graham probably) only.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:22 am**

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:50 am Look I am not saying English supporters will agree with me, of course not, but looking at it objectively, they basically forfeited their Lions jerseys that day. It was a disgusting, sneering, petulant spectacle I honestly hope I will never again witness,.

I have absolutely no idea what incident or game you're referring to?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:55 am**

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:03 pm
Munch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:51 pm If I was picking the team tomorrow, it would be basically England + guests.
Honestly, I think this might be the best strategy. Although no-one really likes the English, so tour morale would be in the toilet. Maybe Ireland + guests? Not sure if Scotland + guests would be worth calling ‘Scotland’, though lots of Scots should make the tour.

Either way, you want a core of a national team, bolstered with able upgrades.

Ireland are mis-firing at the moment. They seem to be in some kind of transition of players and coaching staff and don't seem to have that killer instinct of 2018.

I think more Scots should make this tour though. The question is will they make it to the test squad?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:10 am**

Caley_Red wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:22 am
Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:50 am Look I am not saying English supporters will agree with me, of course not, but looking at it objectively, they basically forfeited their Lions jerseys that day. It was a disgusting, sneering, petulant spectacle I honestly hope I will never again witness,.
I have absolutely no idea what incident or game you're referring to?

Is this C69 going full bore or the triumphant return of REFRY? It's very amusing either way.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:53 am**

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:04 am You what? What's the point of the Gatland Lions if all of a sudden he starts selecting Scots? Their sole purpose is for the Scots to be angry at someone else than the Scots for a change.

On recent form I'd select Sutherland, Ritchie, Watson, Russell, Johnson, Hogg for the tour party. Possibly one out of Brown and McInally too. Huw Jones if he returns to form. But I trust Gatland to do the right thing and take Hogg (severely injured by some Irish thug before the first tour match) and a token winger for the dirt-trackers (Darcy Graham probably) only.

Can you define "recent"?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:55 am**

It’ll be Refry, his name is a guitar effects processor.

Also, the paddies would still make the best ‘core’ of a squad. The Craig, man - just think of the Craig!

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:11 am**

Madness wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:07 pm With just a year to go to the Lions tour (maybe) how come this site has so many thread titles exported over but no Lions thread??

I'll leave the official one to someone more adept with pictures than me but this is the Official selection, moaning, bitching, laughing at Gatland trolling various people thread.

So in bored tradition, here is a 23 to take on SA if it was in a few weeks so no form to go on but hopefully very few injuries. Couple of baits in here to see what can be reeled in...

Vunipola
George
Furlong
Ryan
Itoje
Wainwright
Curry
Vunipola
Webb
Farrell (c)
Watson
Tuilagi
Davies
Daly
Hogg

Genge, LCD, Sinks, Lawes, Faletau, Williams, Russell, Williams

Daly over May ? Wtf?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:16 am**

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:55 am It’ll be Refry, his name is a guitar effects processor.

Also, the paddies would still make the best ‘core’ of a squad. The Craig, man - just think of the Craig!

Refry ?!

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:17 am**

Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:11 am
Madness wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:07 pm With just a year to go to the Lions tour (maybe) how come this site has so many thread titles exported over but no Lions thread??

I'll leave the official one to someone more adept with pictures than me but this is the Official selection, moaning, bitching, laughing at Gatland trolling various people thread.

So in bored tradition, here is a 23 to take on SA if it was in a few weeks so no form to go on but hopefully very few injuries. Couple of baits in here to see what can be reeled in...

Vunipola
George
Furlong
Ryan
Itoje
Wainwright
Curry
Vunipola
Webb
Farrell (c)
Watson
Tuilagi
Davies
Daly
Hogg

Genge, LCD, Sinks, Lawes, Faletau, Williams, Russell, Williams
Daly over May ? Wtf?

Indeed, thats a mad call, May brilliant under the high ball and has more gas than Daly.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:25 am**

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:17 am
Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:11 am
Madness wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:07 pm With just a year to go to the Lions tour (maybe) how come this site has so many thread titles exported over but no Lions thread??

I'll leave the official one to someone more adept with pictures than me but this is the Official selection, moaning, bitching, laughing at Gatland trolling various people thread.

So in bored tradition, here is a 23 to take on SA if it was in a few weeks so no form to go on but hopefully very few injuries. Couple of baits in here to see what can be reeled in...

Vunipola
George
Furlong
Ryan
Itoje
Wainwright
Curry
Vunipola
Webb
Farrell (c)
Watson
Tuilagi
Davies
Daly
Hogg

Genge, LCD, Sinks, Lawes, Faletau, Williams, Russell, Williams
Daly over May ? Wtf?
Indeed, thats a mad call, May brilliant under the high ball and has more gas than Daly.

He would be first on my list , and about the only player / position that Celts just don’t have somebody as good.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:27 am**

I wouldn't swap Josh Adams for Johnny May.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:34 am**

New guy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:27 am I wouldn't swap Josh Adams for Johnny May.

Adams is a fine player and finisher , but no ways he could create those Jonny May individual tries out of nothing against tier 1 teams that May does so often.
Would deffo have him over Daly though, didn’t he beat him to a kick for a try?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:37 am**

Chrysoprase wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:53 am
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:04 am You what? What's the point of the Gatland Lions if all of a sudden he starts selecting Scots? Their sole purpose is for the Scots to be angry at someone else than the Scots for a change.

On recent form I'd select Sutherland, Ritchie, Watson, Russell, Johnson, Hogg for the tour party. Possibly one out of Brown and McInally too. Huw Jones if he returns to form. But I trust Gatland to do the right thing and take Hogg (severely injured by some Irish thug before the first tour match) and a token winger for the dirt-trackers (Darcy Graham probably) only.
Can you define "recent"?

Depends who the player is

Rory Sutherland was the best loosehead in the 6N this year. That's a hill I'm prepared to die on. Him diamond.

Jamie Ritchie definitely one of the top B&I loose forwards in the last year.

Sam Johnson has played himself into the reckoning since his debut in the 2019 6N, has excelled at inside centre.

Watson, Russell, Hogg sustained excellence since the last Lions tour.

McInally and Brown are not notably inferior to any of the other 6N hookers, and Huw Jones looked like the best centre in the 6N when he ran through defences for fun - but needs to find that mojo again.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:40 am**

Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:34 am
New guy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:27 am I wouldn't swap Josh Adams for Johnny May.

Adams is a fine player and finisher , but no ways he could create those Jonny May individual tries out of nothing against tier 1 teams that May does so often.
Would deffo have him over Daly though, didn’t he beat him to a kick for a try?

I reckon the back 3 for the Lions may be Adams, May and Williams. Hard to say what form they'll all be in by the time they get back mind.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:50 am**

New guy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:40 am
Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:34 am
New guy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:27 am I wouldn't swap Josh Adams for Johnny May.

Adams is a fine player and finisher , but no ways he could create those Jonny May individual tries out of nothing against tier 1 teams that May does so often.
Would deffo have him over Daly though, didn’t he beat him to a kick for a try?
I reckon the back 3 for the Lions may be Adams, May and Williams. Hard to say what form they'll all be in by the time they get back mind.

Hogg will be FB as token scot

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:54 am**

Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:50 am
New guy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:40 am
Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:34 am

Adams is a fine player and finisher , but no ways he could create those Jonny May individual tries out of nothing against tier 1 teams that May does so often.
Would deffo have him over Daly though, didn’t he beat him to a kick for a try?
I reckon the back 3 for the Lions may be Adams, May and Williams. Hard to say what form they'll all be in by the time they get back mind.
Hogg will be FB as token scot

Gatland doesn't do token Scots in his test team. And Hogg will be broken by some Irish friendly fire again long before the Tests start.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:24 pm**

LRZ is my lions bolter this year. Old man May can ride the pine for the test side.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:42 pm**

Watson has to be in there somewhere, there are a lot of riches in that space.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:51 pm**

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:42 pm Watson has to be in there somewhere, there are a lot of riches in that space.

Anthony? Hamish? Both?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:49 pm**

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:17 am
Yeeb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:11 am
Madness wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:07 pm With just a year to go to the Lions tour (maybe) how come this site has so many thread titles exported over but no Lions thread??

I'll leave the official one to someone more adept with pictures than me but this is the Official selection, moaning, bitching, laughing at Gatland trolling various people thread.

So in bored tradition, here is a 23 to take on SA if it was in a few weeks so no form to go on but hopefully very few injuries. Couple of baits in here to see what can be reeled in...

Vunipola
George
Furlong
Ryan
Itoje
Wainwright
Curry
Vunipola
Webb
Farrell (c)
Watson
Tuilagi
Davies
Daly
Hogg

Genge, LCD, Sinks, Lawes, Faletau, Williams, Russell, Williams
Daly over May ? Wtf?
Indeed, thats a mad call, May brilliant under the high ball and has more gas than Daly.

Horrendously over rated player. Has gas and has scored a coupe of good trys from nothing but poor basic skills (decent under a high ball to be fair), can’t pass, dodgy defence. Not on a wind up, he would be well down my list for a Lions place, would maybe make the wider squad

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:58 pm**

May's defence is decent enough. Better than plenty of wings England have played over the last decade or so anyway.

He'll be 31 by the time of the tour though. Which is getting towards the upper end of the threshold for a wing whose USP is gas at that level.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:48 pm**

Not sure May will be losing top end pace at just 31... he's a snakey racer so will probably be lightning for a lot longer than the big fast units (eg. Ben Cohen) who tend to lose pace more rapidly (aha!). And he does bring a lot of nous, too. I like him. Does he have a Welsh grandparent?

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:53 pm**

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:51 pm
ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:42 pm Watson has to be in there somewhere, there are a lot of riches in that space.
Anthony? Hamish? Both?

You're fighting the good fight here, pretty much single-handedly but no-one is going to take you on. It's an illustration of how significant Scotland really is in these discussions.

Posted: **Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:59 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:10 am
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:22 am
Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:50 am Look I am not saying English supporters will agree with me, of course not, but looking at it objectively, they basically forfeited their Lions jerseys that day. It was a disgusting, sneering, petulant spectacle I honestly hope I will never again witness,.
I have absolutely no idea what incident or game you're referring to?
Is this C69 going full bore or the triumphant return of REFRY? It's very amusing either way.

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