Me tooSlick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pmJust been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:17 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66407099
When We find this, it's fucking huge. Another fundamental force rewrites everything we know in the same way Einstein rewrote Newton.
The science is cool thread
Anyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pmJust been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:17 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66407099
When We find this, it's fucking huge. Another fundamental force rewrites everything we know in the same way Einstein rewrote Newton.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
It’s all about magnets and wobbling you see.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 pmAnyone who tells you they really understand it is probably lying.Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 pmJust been reading about this. As usual with anything to do with particles and such like I only understood 1 in four or 5 words but sounded cool.Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:17 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66407099
When We find this, it's fucking huge. Another fundamental force rewrites everything we know in the same way Einstein rewrote Newton.
Anyway, still fascinating
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My eldest son has started watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos series.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
What’s this on?assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:12 am My eldest son has started watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos series.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
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It was on Netflix a while ago, but I think they removed it (at least for Kenyan Netflix). Otherwise you can get both series on PirateBay.
But I think you can find most of the episodes on YouTube, even if they're small clips: https://www.youtube.com/@cosmos9651/videos
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What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Ptolemy was an Egyptian mathmetician and atronomer in the 2nd century. He built a model of the solar system that accurately predicted the positions of the planets in the nights sky. It's an incredibly accurate model and you can even use it today and it will tell you where all of the planets are.
The problem is that he had Earth at the center of the solar system. In order to explain the orbits of the planets, he had them make these corkscrew type movements as they revolved around the Earth, instead of in a normal orbit.
Now his model was correct by every ability to test it available at the time. All you had to do is look up to the sky and see that Mars is exactly where Ptolemy said it would be, and next week it will be in this position and lo and behold there it goes.
He was demonstrably correct, yet at the same time he was completely wrong due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what it was he was looking at.
Likewise, I believe that in time Dark Energy, Dark Flow and even Dark Matter will prove to be Ptolemaic Corkscrews. They are used to make sense of what it is that we are looking at, but ultimately I believe we have a fundamental misunderstanding about what that actually is.
Maybe "Muon Power" will lift the veil?
The problem is that he had Earth at the center of the solar system. In order to explain the orbits of the planets, he had them make these corkscrew type movements as they revolved around the Earth, instead of in a normal orbit.
Now his model was correct by every ability to test it available at the time. All you had to do is look up to the sky and see that Mars is exactly where Ptolemy said it would be, and next week it will be in this position and lo and behold there it goes.
He was demonstrably correct, yet at the same time he was completely wrong due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what it was he was looking at.
Likewise, I believe that in time Dark Energy, Dark Flow and even Dark Matter will prove to be Ptolemaic Corkscrews. They are used to make sense of what it is that we are looking at, but ultimately I believe we have a fundamental misunderstanding about what that actually is.
Maybe "Muon Power" will lift the veil?
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Hang on! Weren't they all trying to build a Lucy Liu-bot and only then saw some strange wobble in the particle generator they thought could be worth a second look?Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
Tbh that's what physicists do most of the time. They're very happy with a metaphorical chainsaw or hammer.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
NoSandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:59 amHang on! Weren't they all trying to build a Lucy Liu-bot and only then saw some strange wobble in the particle generator they thought could be worth a second look?Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Well, he was kinda wrong, but there's no privileged frame of reference, so in a way he was kinda right. If you look at a broader frame of reference than the sun, say our galaxy, the planets move in a 200,000 year corkscrewing orbit around galactic centre.PornDog wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 am Ptolemy was an Egyptian mathmetician and atronomer in the 2nd century. He built a model of the solar system that accurately predicted the positions of the planets in the nights sky. It's an incredibly accurate model and you can even use it today and it will tell you where all of the planets are.
The problem is that he had Earth at the center of the solar system. In order to explain the orbits of the planets, he had them make these corkscrew type movements as they revolved around the Earth, instead of in a normal orbit.
Now his model was correct by every ability to test it available at the time. All you had to do is look up to the sky and see that Mars is exactly where Ptolemy said it would be, and next week it will be in this position and lo and behold there it goes.
He was demonstrably correct, yet at the same time he was completely wrong due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what it was he was looking at.
Likewise, I believe that in time Dark Energy, Dark Flow and even Dark Matter will prove to be Ptolemaic Corkscrews. They are used to make sense of what it is that we are looking at, but ultimately I believe we have a fundamental misunderstanding about what that actually is.
Maybe "Muon Power" will lift the veil?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:12 am My eldest son has started watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos series.
I've seen it before, but I seem to find it even more interesting now.
Some of the stuff he goes through is truly mind-blowing. I can sometimes struggle to sleep after watching an episode.
The episode on the Cosmic Calendar is incredible, it's the first time I've been able to truly understand the age of the universe and how how brief we have been around. It actually changed my perception on life and history.
Absolutely brilliant series.
The Cosmic Address section was a mind-blower for me
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:12 amNoSandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:59 amHang on! Weren't they all trying to build a Lucy Liu-bot and only then saw some strange wobble in the particle generator they thought could be worth a second look?Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:32 am What I love is how unwedded to the standard model that these scientists are.
They have a model that explains "most" things and they are going at it with a chainsaw to find a better model. Makes a change from scientists holding onto old ideas.
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Carl Sagan > Neil deGrasse Tyson when it comes to presentation. I find Neil a bit condescending.
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
Actually, I just found the series on Disney and was a bit disappointed when I saw who he was - think I watched an episode and found him very annoying.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:11 pm Carl Sagan > Neil deGrasse Tyson when it comes to presentation. I find Neil a bit condescending.
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
Still, good recommendations on here so going to give it another go
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Don't think it's the same series as the original.Slick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:16 pmActually, I just found the series on Disney and was a bit disappointed when I saw who he was - think I watched an episode and found him very annoying.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:11 pm Carl Sagan > Neil deGrasse Tyson when it comes to presentation. I find Neil a bit condescending.
UK (mostly, if not all BBC) have some great presenters that do a much better job.
Jim Al-Khalili
Dallas Campbell
Hannah Fry
Alice Roberts
Helen Czerski
Brian Cox
YouTubers worth a watch
Fraser Cain
Scott Manley
Anton Pretov
Astrum
Sabine Hossenfelder
veritasium
the Royal Institute
Becky Smerthurst
Fermilab
Still, good recommendations on here so going to give it another go
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Wind to power ships.
Can't believe nobody thought of this before.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66543643
Can't believe nobody thought of this before.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66543643
Good innovation. Shame they are manufactured in China.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:12 pm Wind to power ships.
Can't believe nobody thought of this before.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66543643
Same story we'll hear over and over again in the next decade. Broken British Industry.petej wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:47 pmGood innovation. Shame they are manufactured in China.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:12 pm Wind to power ships.
Can't believe nobody thought of this before.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66543643
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BBC News - Scientists get closer to solving mystery of antimatter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66890649
TLDR
Gravity makes anti-matter fall down rather than rise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66890649
TLDR
Gravity makes anti-matter fall down rather than rise.
Peter Higgs has sadly died. Although 94 is a decent age.
Used to see him about a bit in Stockbridge when I lived there - I don’t often get starstruck but I did. Said hello twice and he was very friendly
Used to see him about a bit in Stockbridge when I lived there - I don’t often get starstruck but I did. Said hello twice and he was very friendly
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Story comes around every now and again, various analyses and re analyses. Debating it. Tbh it's not actually that important - I mean, yes, it could perturb a big Oortobject and direct it at earth, but Jupiter could do that, so what the hey.
I told you guys about the nova that should happen in the next few months, didn't I?
I told you guys about the nova that should happen in the next few months, didn't I?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Yes. Boring. Tell us more about TNO's.