NPR

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:19 am**

Final week.

Aus v NZ
BST 10.45
NZT 21.45
SAT 11.45

SA v Arg
BST 16.05
NZT 03.05
SAT 17.05

Fixed the times.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:27 am**

fix your OP

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:28 am**

F/A diff is 28

So if
NZ win - it’s theirs
NZ lose within 7 - SA need winning BP and around 28+ lead
NZ lose outside 7 - SA need winning BP, or to win 21+

So it’s definitely not over.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:28 am**

Cheers Boet!. I still cant figure out why the All Blacks aren't on 10?

Surely I have a better chance getting pregnant then the Wallabies beating the mighty All Blacks.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:30 am**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:27 am fix your OP

Was it just the date, or did I balls up something else?

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:34 am**

just the date

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:55 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:28 am Cheers Boet!. I still cant figure out why the All Blacks aren't on 10?

BP for 3 tries or more than opponent, so only got it in Argentina

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:06 am**

Springboks are going to smash them with their B team starters and then grind the Argies up with the bomb squad

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:13 am**

Actually I think my analysis was wrong. One of those stupid rules.

Point 2/b suggests if equal on points ABs take it, since they beat the boks. For and against not a factor.

Position on the competition table shall be determined by competition points as set out above:

1. In the event of two or more teams being equal on competition points for any position on the competition table such position shall be determined by the team with the most wins in the series.

2. In the event of (a) above not providing a decision, the position on the competition table will be determined by the team with the most wins against the other team/s tied on the same points.

3. In the event of (b) above not providing a decision, the position on the competition table will be determined on the margin of points scored for and against in the series. The team with the highest margin of points scored for and against being considered as the winner.

https://super.rugby/therugbychampionship/about-trc/

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:13 am**

Akkerman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:55 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:28 am Cheers Boet!. I still cant figure out why the All Blacks aren't on 10?
BP for 3 tries or more than opponent, so only got it in Argentina

Go Kwagga.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:14 am**

So if
NZ win - it’s theirs
NZ lose within 7 - it’s theirs
NZ lose outside 7 - SA need winning BP

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:26 am**

Losing to the All Blacks and still winning the trophy is soooooooo 2019

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:41 pm**

Akkerman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:55 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:28 am Cheers Boet!. I still cant figure out why the All Blacks aren't on 10?
BP for 3 tries or more than opponent, so only got it in Argentina

Cheers Boet. Much better then the 4 try bonus point.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:38 pm**

ABs vs Wallabies kicks off at 21:45 NZT, not 22:45.

Posted: **Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:53 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:38 pm ABs vs Wallabies kicks off at 21:45 NZT, not 22:45.

Times out by an hour. In Europe, but thought I’d adjusted for that.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:37 am**

Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:14 am So if
NZ win - it’s theirs
NZ lose within 7 - it’s theirs
NZ lose outside 7 - SA need winning BP

If the ABs lose by more than 7 against the Aussies it will be a bigger upset than the SA/Japan 2015 RWC match.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:56 pm**

troglodiet wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:37 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:14 am So if
NZ win - it’s theirs
NZ lose within 7 - it’s theirs
NZ lose outside 7 - SA need winning BP

If the ABs lose by more than 7 against the Aussies it will be a bigger upset than the SA/Japan 2015 RWC match.

True. If they win, it's the Crusaders players, if they lose its Foster and Cane.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:12 pm**

Losing Foster and Cane would be great

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:09 pm**

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:12 pm Losing Foster and Cane would be great

Is there any point to Foster any more? Schmidt and Ryan seem to be doing ok?

Posted: **Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:44 am**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:09 pmIs there any point to Foster any more? Schmidt and Ryan seem to be doing ok?

They're clearly running the show behind the scenes now, but probably want to keep Foster around as the figurehead (and as their escape-goat if it goes pear-shaped again).

Posted: **Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:13 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:44 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:09 pmIs there any point to Foster any more? Schmidt and Ryan seem to be doing ok?
They're clearly running the show behind the scenes now, but probably want to keep Foster around as the figurehead (and as their escape-goat if it goes pear-shaped again).

He's like the drunk old uncle at Christmas that gets wheeled out for the giving out of presents.. and he thinks they're all for him...

Posted: **Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:39 am**

Kriel look like a starter on saturday.

Posted: **Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:54 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:39 am Kriel look like a starter on saturday.

More like uncooked pudding.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:17 am**

Springboks –
15 Willie le Roux,
14 Cheslin Kolbe,
13 Jesse Kriel,
12 Damian de Allende,
11 Kurt-Lee Arendse,
10 Manie Libbok,
9 Grant Williams,
8 Duane Vermeulen (c),
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit,
6 Marco van Staden,
5 Marvin Orie,
4 Eben Etzebeth,
3 Frans Malherbe,
2 Malcolm Marx
, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Faf de Klerk, 22 Lukhanyo Am, 23 Damian Willemse

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:28 am**

Looks old.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:50 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:28 amLooks old.

Have to agree specially the midfield.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:04 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:50 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:28 amLooks old.
Have to agree specially the midfield.

15/14/11 is

13/12 is

10/9 is

8/7/6 is

5/4 is

3/2/1 is

Bench is

So all in all, it's just the centre combo that is kak.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:18 pm**

It's a bit of a weird team.

I'm glad to see Williams Libbok have a go, I think they could be amazing together if they click.

I thought it would an opportunity to give Willemse a run at 15 and give le Roux a rest.

I wouldn't have minded seeing Kleyn have another match.

Am doesn't really strike me as a bench player either. If you're not starting him, then you'd be better off with a utility player there.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:36 pm**

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:18 pm It's a bit of a weird team.

I'm glad to see Williams Libbok have a go, I think they could be amazing together if they click.

I thought it would an opportunity to give Willemse a run at 15 and give le Roux a rest.

I wouldn't have minded seeing Kleyn have another match.

Am doesn't really strike me as a bench player either. If you're not starting him, then you'd be better off with a utility player there.

Am being on the bench reminds me that South Africa chose to have Jaque Fourie on the bench against the Lions in 2009, with Jacobs starting ahead of him. Which might have made sense at the time but now looks like something an insane person might suggest.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:39 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:36 pm
Am being on the bench reminds me that South Africa chose to have Jaque Fourie on the bench against the Lions in 2009, with Jacobs starting ahead of him. Which might have made sense at the time but now looks like something an insane person might suggest.

Looking back, that is insane.

I guess they want to give Kriel a run, as he is probably as undercooked as the rest of our Japan-based players. But seems like a waste of a cap to me, Am still needs to find form and needs game time.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:46 pm**

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:39 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:36 pm
Am being on the bench reminds me that South Africa chose to have Jaque Fourie on the bench against the Lions in 2009, with Jacobs starting ahead of him. Which might have made sense at the time but now looks like something an insane person might suggest.
Looking back, that is insane.

I guess they want to give Kriel a run, as he is probably as undercooked as the rest of our Japan-based players. But seems like a waste of a cap to me, Am still needs to find form and needs game time.

The thought of DDA and Jesse in the midfield depresses me. And you are absolutely right, Am needs more game time.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:55 pm**

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:46 pm
The thought of DDA and Jesse in the midfield depresses me.

Maybe it's deliberate, to force Manie to run more with the ball and kick accurately rather than send it to die.

Poor wings playing outside that sorry partnership.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:59 pm**

Why would they start Kriel?

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:30 pm**

Surely the non playing squad members should be playing against the Bulls, Stormers, Cheetahs etc to get some game time.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:32 pm**

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:18 pm I thought it would an opportunity to give Willemse a run at 15

Don't be silly. He's a 10.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:34 pm**

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:04 pm
13/12 is

Can't pass/Won't pass

If that electric Back 3 get the ball, it'll be from Puma's kicking it to them.

Posted: **Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:26 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:36 pm
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:18 pm It's a bit of a weird team.

I'm glad to see Williams Libbok have a go, I think they could be amazing together if they click.

I thought it would an opportunity to give Willemse a run at 15 and give le Roux a rest.

I wouldn't have minded seeing Kleyn have another match.

Am doesn't really strike me as a bench player either. If you're not starting him, then you'd be better off with a utility player there.
Am being on the bench reminds me that South Africa chose to have Jaque Fourie on the bench against the Lions in 2009, with Jacobs starting ahead of him. Which might have made sense at the time but now looks like something an insane person might suggest.

It did not make any sense even back than. It was the stupidest and most blatantly biased selection there has ever been for the springboks. Still makes me angry. Glad it didnt backfire.

Posted: **Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:47 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:59 pm Why would they start Kriel?

Who is backup 13 for the RWC?

Posted: **Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:34 am**

handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:47 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:59 pm Why would they start Kriel?
Who is backup 13 for the RWC?

Faf

Posted: **Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:08 pm**

boere wors wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:34 am
handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:47 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:59 pm Why would they start Kriel?
Who is backup 13 for the RWC?
Faf

Point is, doesn't help to complain about Kriel getting game time at 13, if Am cannot play due to injury, we need our backup with a few games under the belt.

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