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EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:23 pm Only about two weeks too late with that story Torq

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:43 pm They also tried to sell some where they completely forgot to put the crest on the jersey.

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:00 pm

Zig wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:59 pm The new shirt is designed never to be seen again.

There's an arrogance in thinking this team won't win the World Cup and that abomination won't haunt Irish rugby for generations.

I don't understand the order of those words

Zig wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:21 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:00 pm

Zig wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:59 pm The new shirt is designed never to be seen again.

There's an arrogance in thinking this team won't win the World Cup and that abomination won't haunt Irish rugby for generations.

I don't understand the order of those words

I was talking about the new Irish national team shirt, not the troll/bait thing.

Slick wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:39 pm Agree. But can we please have a WR ruling that Ireland are not allowed to have any commentators

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:51 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:39 pm Agree. But can we please have a WR ruling that Ireland are not allowed to have any commentators

Who is the pundit?

I turned the match off because of him and generally I support Ireland against most teams

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:57 pm He sounds great

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:09 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:56 pm Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter".

Yawn. Just yawn. I saw one occasion Ireland got the timing wrong. One

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:56 pm Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter".

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:42 am

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:09 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:56 pm Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter".

Yawn. Just yawn. I saw one occasion Ireland got the timing wrong. One

I don't think they ever get it wrong. It's all deliberate. That kicking the ball out of the ruck at the end when Ita were already under adv for another ruck infringement was as plain a yellow as you'd ever see. Abysmal officiating.

CM11 wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:38 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:56 pm Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter".

Interesting you only spot the stuff that the ref gets wrong in our favour and never the blatant stuff that goes against us. One of which cost us a try.

Camroc2 wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:49 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:42 am

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:09 pm

Yawn. Just yawn. I saw one occasion Ireland got the timing wrong. One

I don't think they ever get it wrong. It's all deliberate. That kicking the ball out of the ruck at the end when Ita were already under adv for another ruck infringement was as plain a yellow as you'd ever see. Abysmal officiating.

Ball was out, beyond the hindmost foot, ruck over.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:48 am

CM11 wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:38 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:56 pm Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter".

Interesting you only spot the stuff that the ref gets wrong in our favour and never the blatant stuff that goes against us. One of which cost us a try.

Probably because I only saw the very end of the game: I was watching the SA game and only switched when that was a done deal. And the fact remains that Ire are the biggest breakdown cheats in rugby.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:48 am

CM11 wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:38 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:56 pm Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter".

Interesting you only spot the stuff that the ref gets wrong in our favour and never the blatant stuff that goes against us. One of which cost us a try.

Probably because I only saw the very end of the game: I was watching the SA game and only switched when that was a done deal. And the fact remains that Ire are the biggest breakdown cheats in rugby.

PornDog wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:43 am Ah, the old "I may not know what I'm talking about, but I just don't like those people" defence!

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:29 am

PornDog wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:43 am Ah, the old "I may not know what I'm talking about, but I just don't like those people" defence!

Except every other fan in the world thinks Ire are the uber breakdown cheats whereas only the Irish protest otherwise. Given then that everyone else had everyone else to level that accusation at other than at the Irish................

PornDog wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:27 am The ruck is a fucking shambles across the entire sport. All teams are sealing off, hands in the ruck, in at the side all the fucking time. It's an absolute disgrace and World Rugby are entirely asleep at the wheel.

You only see the instances when green shirts are guilty of it though, because you are a miserable joyless one eyed cunt!

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:29 am

PornDog wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:43 am Ah, the old "I may not know what I'm talking about, but I just don't like those people" defence!

Except every other fan in the world thinks Ire are the uber breakdown cheats whereas only the Irish protest otherwise. Given then that everyone else had everyone else to level that accusation at other than at the Irish................

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:55 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:29 am

PornDog wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:43 am Ah, the old "I may not know what I'm talking about, but I just don't like those people" defence!

Except every other fan in the world thinks Ire are the uber breakdown cheats whereas only the Irish protest otherwise. Given then that everyone else had everyone else to level that accusation at other than at the Irish................

I hate supporting Torq, but he's right:

"Ireland are the biggest breakdown cheats in 2023."

PornDog wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:31 pm I didn't say Ireland weren't the biggest breakdown cheats (though I do think that's most likely bollox), what I said was -

1. The ruck is a fucking mess, everyone cheats and most importantly is allowed to cheat
2. Torq only sees the instances when Ireland are at it because.....
3. Torq is a miserable one eyed cunt
4. the vast majority of the bored would agree that Torq is a miserable one eyed cunt!


I didn't bring it up with Torq because I have no doubt he didn't watch it, but you should have Sandstrom - go back and watch the URC final. If the match got into double figures for the rucks where somebody wasn't lying on top of the ball off their feet then I'd be amazed. It was fucking awful, by both sides equally. The European final wasn't much better. Everyone's fucking at it, not just Ireland!

CM11 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:43 pm It's ridiculous to suggest we get away with stuff at the breakdown more than anyone else (on average).

Jim Lahey wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:10 pm I see we are cheating again, getting Jonny a behind-closed-doors game this week against the Portuguese.

So much cheating right now. Rucking, Sexton, Leinster trying to claim a 5th HEC etc. etc.

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:14 pm

Jim Lahey wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:10 pm I see we are cheating again, getting Jonny a behind-closed-doors game this week against the Portuguese.

So much cheating right now. Rucking, Sexton, Leinster trying to claim a 5th HEC etc. etc.

Glad someone in Ireland is coming out and admitting it. You are one of the good ones, Jimmy.

I'm still hoping for a clean & fair quarter-final for Ireland.

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:05 pm Regardless of the truth of the matter, there's no way this is a "NZ used to get it, now we're getting it because we're number one" scenario. Ireland's approach to the breakdown and "success" has been a topic of much debate for a long time, well before Ireland got good.

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:00 pm

CM11 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:43 pm It's ridiculous to suggest we get away with stuff at the breakdown more than anyone else (on average).

No it isn't. You only have to glance at the breakdown to see Irish players cheating. It's endemic.